Do you, or have you ever owned an NSX?

[ludecrs]

Just wondering if I should update the NSX Information thread which is stickied at the top.

If there are enough YES's I will get around to it sooner rather than later.:thumbsup:

[dupac->]

lol sorry i voted just coz i can
lol
love u ludercrs

[S2kane]

I saw my first one around 1993 and its been my favorite car ever since.

After the s2000 a NSX will be my next car.

[JMSBND]

I have driven one, but it was that or my first house. I am a small guy, but I couldn't see myself living in it full time. Was a damn nice car though!

[TECDUP]

One day $$$ :p

[ludecrs]

28-0.

No rush then. lol.

[dc2dc2dc2]

make that 28-1

[SSs]

2-36 now

[i_s2_honda]

wish i have but no i haven't driven one :p

[sadlerau]

I've had mine since 2005. Black '98 Coupe six speed :)

[CKEY]

mines on the boat, due next week. black '95 targa top

[EDIT] auto

[sadlerau]

Bet you can't wait!

Enjoy it, even as an automatic, the shear thrill of drivng such a responsive car is......thrilling.

[chicken8]

how did you manage to import it?

private import?

[CKEY]

haha yeah well I had an auto prelude 96 and the motor seemed to have enough kick to take it off the line with the vtec. and besides this car is for me to take to uni and back home, i'm not interested in the track or showing off the commodore hooligans (only an aussie would get that) so auto is fine

to the guy about the import, import was done through an auto auctioneer based in queensland with cars from japan. risky i know but i trust the honda manufacturing and engine. besides, i had alot of check ups with the car and all that seems to be wrong with it is a leak in the plugs which wont be costly.

[chicken8]

i've always thought the NSX was not allowed to be imported unless you owned it for a year in japan or overseas

as its not on the SEVS list it can't be imported like your regular skylines etc

[chicken8]

and by not allowed to be imported i actually mean not complianceable

you'll be able to bring one in as a track car but it can't be registered unless you've owned the car for a minimum of 12 months overseas and can provide documentation to prove

[CKEY]

Partially true, having the car licensed i haven't done as of yet. but importing is fine. it's going to be a luxury good which means that i have to pay tax when it does come in. silly law bu anything to put a coin in their pockets. licensiing the car would probably be temporary until it passes pit tests and then it can be licensed. all in all you do pay a bit of extra money and depending on the car you buy over seas you could pay more than one in australia, but if your not happy with the australian ones for sale (which i'm not) and you have the money its ok really. the biggest buck waster is the tax. the pits aren't so bad and i wouldn't imagine many problems with compliance.

you say it's not compliant but your probably only half right. it might have a few safety specs that need upgrading but nothing major. about 5 or 6 years ago my parents imported a BMW from asia and it wasn't "compliant" and all it needed were seatbelts for the middle seat and updated brakes. nothing major.

[CKEY]

in reply to your PM chicken so every one else can see if they have interest.

importing seems impossible through an australian based dealer for some reason. with the help of my sister (who lives in QLD) the "dealer" wasn't a company selling cars, my mistake if you took that the wrong way. the way it was done was purchasing a second hand car from an auto auction that is in japan but has auction lines allowed from other countries. a really simple example of one is asia car auctions. so the car is purchased woopy but still in japan. the guy in QLD is a man that my sister found who knows the company of the auto auctioneers but isn't a direct employee so to say. he does something to do with tuning i think. any way this guy helped my sister set up the import and then when it gets to australia more money is spent on tax etc. then i gotta chuck it on a train to come over here.

[CKEY]

and by not allowed to be imported i actually mean not complianceable

you'll be able to bring one in as a track car but it can't be registered unless you've owned the car for a minimum of 12 months overseas and can provide documentation to prove

not compliancable does not mean not allowed. The new Nissan GT-R is not compliancable but a lot are here and most allowed to drive on the road under a special license. They wont be allowed to drive until Nissan makes upgrades that are deemed "safe" by the DPI, most likely a power decrease and maybe noise dB decrease.

The NSX is certainly no rampaging monster on the road and definitely allowed just tricky, as my last two post have descibed.

[CKEY]

CHICKEN, look on the sevs list saying what CANT come in no matter what and you'll find the NSX is not on it. which means apply for special admission and it's highly likely i'll get accepted if i can put it through the pits and bring it up to spec


SO MANY POSTS!

[chicken8]

can you please give a breakdown of costs as well?

[chicken8]

im getting real confused here. this is the first time i heard of this being done

from my understanding. the restrictions that australia puts on cars being imported which were already released in aus is to protect the australian car market. why would you buy aus delivered when u can get an import for cheaper thats the same model

another thing with importing it as a luxury good. all imports are catagorised. alcohol and perfume is in 1 catagory and taxed a certain way. luxury cars one way. etc etc

i just have trouble getting my mind around how this is legal and if the car's going to be on the road.

the old GTRs are allowed to be imported because the nissan skyline wasnt released in aus and that the skylines are on the SEVS list. meaning you just import the car and go through compliance.

i hope you don't encounter too many problems importing the car. or worse case they'll say the car cannot be used on the roads but only for parts or racing only

can other people with import experience please chime in

[aaronng]

not compliancable does not mean not allowed. The new Nissan GT-R is not compliancable but a lot are here and most allowed to drive on the road under a special license. They wont be allowed to drive until Nissan makes upgrades that are deemed "safe" by the DPI, most likely a power decrease and maybe noise dB decrease.

You are mistaken. The R35 GT-R CAN BE COMPLIANCED and road registered here at this current time. The only problem is that no one has complianced one yet and therefore no compliance procedure exists for the R35. http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/sevs/477-00.htm

[aaronng]

CHICKEN, look on the sevs list saying what CANT come in no matter what and you'll find the NSX is not on it. which means apply for special admission and it's highly likely i'll get accepted if i can put it through the pits and bring it up to spec


SO MANY POSTS!

Yeah, there is a list that says what CAN come in and another list saying what CANNOT come in.

CAN: http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/sevs/sevsindex.htm
CANNOT: http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/SEVS/NOT_ELIG/not%20eligible.htm

Not being on the CANNOT list doesn't mean that it CAN be brought it. Once you apply and it gets knocked back because the NSX was sold here locally at market volume, then it goes onto the CANNOT list.

[Zdster]

The NSX is certainly no rampaging monster on the road and definitely allowed just tricky, as my last two post have descibed.

As aaronng has said, I think you are going to face serious difficulties in compliancing and registering the car you bought here. I would be speaking to an automotive engineer as well as some of the companies that do compliancing/registering of Japanese cars to get some clarification before you are out a whole heap of money on a car that wont be street legal.

In Victoria for example (and I think it is similar elsewhere) there are basically 2 ways to get the car - through a personal import (owning the car for at least 12 months prior to import) or through a RAWS registered workshop.
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/Registration/HowToRegisterOrTransfer/RegistrationRequirements/ImportedVehicleRegistration.htm

[aaronng]

Just to add, eventhough you do it through personal import, you still have to get the car complianced. Drew personal imported his h22a accord wagon, and he still had to get a huge-ass fugly bar welded across the rear boot so that there were baby seat mounts that met ADR standards!

[ludecrs]

I think you're going to get stuck with a "track only" NSX.....

Hope you didn't pay too much...

[chicken8]

lets not get too far ahead of ourselves

im still hoping he CAN get the car registered. because it adds a new avenue for those of us looking for an NSX and can't find a decent one in aus

but i think chances are this isn't the way to bring one in

i know SSs brought in his own NSX about 6 months or so ago. he stayed in HK with the car for 12months prior to importing it

[Philip Lee]

as far as i know u need an import approval to clear customs.

to get one, u either need a RAW to apply (which means it's on the "can" list) or you are eligible for personal imports (ie. 12months bs etc).

if u want a proper rego, u have to do the above.

or if u have an appropriate CAMS licence, u'll be able to get import approval but not full rego.

otherwise i think no chance.

please correct me if i'm wrong.

[ludecrs]

He's screwed - there's really no other way to put it.

I looked into this for a good 3 months a few years ago.
The only other way you can bring the car in, is to pay a broker, who has owned one for over 12 months, and is willing to bring it to Australia, with him, and then sell it to you once it clears.

[.::F[L]Y::.]

lets not get too far ahead of ourselves

im still hoping he CAN get the car registered. because it adds a new avenue for those of us looking for an NSX and can't find a decent one in aus

but i think chances are this isn't the way to bring one in

i know SSs brought in his own NSX about 6 months or so ago. he stayed in HK with the car for 12months prior to importing it


are you talking about the guy who owns the facelifted orange NSX?

I thought he bought that car from a local guy?

[chicken8]

yeah that guy

who used to have amuse s2k

and its just a kit. its still a 91. but with NA2 facelift parts

from the conversations i've had with him. he stayed in HK with the car for 12months before coming over wiht it

[CKEY]

[QUOTE=chicken8;1835855]im getting real confused here. this is the first time i heard of this being done

from my understanding. the restrictions that australia puts on cars being imported which were already released in aus is to protect the australian car market. why would you buy aus delivered when u can get an import for cheaper thats the same model

you'll find that that legislation was abolished and is still in the process of being cleaned up. again not cheaper due to luxury tax

[chicken8]

luxury car tax is only for new cars tho

i think you'll have alot of trouble getting this car registered

but if you do. please post up your process so we can all do the same

[.::F[L]Y::.]

yeah that guy

who used to have amuse s2k

and its just a kit. its still a 91. but with NA2 facelift parts

from the conversations i've had with him. he stayed in HK with the car for 12months before coming over wiht it

im pretty sure he purchased that car from the guy that owns the carwash across from broadway shopping center. He had that one which is an automatic and a blue one.

[chicken8]

really? hmmm ok

i was talking to him when he just got the car about import processes. who knows man

think his rego is NSX911 or something like that right?

[aaronng]

you'll find that that legislation was abolished and is still in the process of being cleaned up. again not cheaper due to luxury tax
Do you have a link to an article or announcement saying that it is about to be abolished?

[CKEY]

nah, read it in the paper a few months ago, said the legislation will be abolished and import tax will be hiked up

[chicken8]

call ur importer and make sure he can give you a written money back guarantee that he can get the car registered

when i was looking for one i called at least 15 importers and they all said no

one said its possible for his source in japan to own the car for a year then import to aus then sell to me. but he'll need to put on quite a premium for that

[CKEY]

yeah all right. better do that before it's too late. who did you call?

[chicken8]

alot of local importers

but i found prestige motorsports with the most info and the most accurate also

http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/

[chicken8]

heres import rules explained by prestige

http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/modules/wffaq/article.php?t=17



Importing Regulations
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There are in fact four (4) methods that you can use to import a vehicle to Australia:


1) SEVS (Specialist and Enthusiast Vehicle Scheme)

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The current list of SEVS eligible models can be found at:

http://rvcs-prodweb.dot.gov.au/sevs/sevsindex.htm

SEVS imposes many restrictions on models that can be imported. Firstly, SEVS excludes all models which were / are already sold new in Australia.

Models that pass this test must then meet 2 of the following 4 criteria to become approved models:

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Once a model is ruled eligible under SEVS it is by no means the end of the story. Model eligibility simply means that a Registered Automotive Workshop (RAW) can apply to DOTARS to be approved to offer compliance for that model. A RAW is the new name for "compliance workshop" under SEVS.

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The current list of approved workshops under SEVS can be found at the following link. This will tell you who can comply different models, and whether anyone has compliance yet for the model you are interested in:

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[aka_NSX]

really? hmmm ok

i was talking to him when he just got the car about import processes. who knows man

think his rego is NSX911 or something like that right?

.::F[L]Y::. is right that guy name is Vincent he bought the car from my friend that own the blue one as well, both of them is AT but the condition of the orange one is very bad ........

[chicken8]

oh really

how so?

its got a few mods on it doesnt it? the standard I/H/E along with fixed buckets and some other stuff

[aka_NSX]

when my friend sold it to him the car has only the front 02 conversion with 19" TE37 wheels (originally AVS model 5 was on the car) and some interior panel done with after market unit, the car used to have problem with EPS but everything is good now, since then I think he order quite a few part for his NSX like muffler, mesh engine grille, etc

[chicken8]

you sold your NSX???

how much for? i think i asked you a year ago and u said u were gunna keep it

what u driving now?

[aka_NSX]

yeah, I have got the money I want so Im happy since I dont drive much now anyway after the baby, but if I can get Type-S / Type-R maybe I will consider again since I was already planning to do the 02 conversion for mine before so I have got all the part ready to be shipped from Japan, now I need to delay it.

I have still got my 05 Odyssey and MINI

you still searching for one ?

[chicken8]

not so much man

moneys all been put away and nothings really caught my eye. think the nsx is off the cards for a few years now

[.::F[L]Y::.]

yea i sold that vincent guy the AP Racing 6 pot BBK his rockin on the nsx now.

[aka_NSX]

Y::.;1842550']yea i sold that vincent guy the AP Racing 6 pot BBK his rockin on the nsx now.

has he installed it yet ? I guess he need a spacer otherwise it won't fit his TE37 coz I remember my friend bought the TE37 for his blue one but can't clear his BBK so he end up sold it together with the orange one