View Full Version : DC2R Intakes - Your Opinions
28RAG
03-07-2008, 07:17 PM
I have searched high and low for answers but have come up with nothing. I see there is a BFYB mod list for DC5 but there seems to be very little for the DC2R.
Can all the DC2R owners tell us their hit and/or miss stories.
Aem, Injen, GruppeM, etc
CAI, SRI
Lets keep it clean and flame free as some people dont want to spend $1000 for a CF housed intake, some feel CAI's are laggy, etc but lets here first hand accounts.
Cheers
90LAN
03-07-2008, 07:25 PM
stock intake with after market filter, k&n or spoon drop in
resonator removed of course
or mugen are my choices
Kiz_EG6
03-07-2008, 08:02 PM
stock intake with after market filter, k&n or spoon drop in
resonator removed of course
or mugen are my choices
Farrrk yeah, totally agreed!
Due to the factory setup in the DC2R, you really can't improve too much on it.
All i did was dropped in a K&N replacement filter, it's practically a pod anyway!!
TECDUP
03-07-2008, 08:10 PM
If you got some $$$ Mugen is the best intake mod for DC2...this is a common opinion
If no $$$ as said above remove resonator and fit a pod into your standard air box!
votek
03-07-2008, 08:14 PM
so the mugen is better than the INJEN?
EKVTIR-T
03-07-2008, 08:17 PM
so the mugen is better than the INJEN?
Better is subject to interpretation.
More kw?
More torque?
Power delivery
Noise even..
Just keep oem setup and use the money elsewhere :)
votek
03-07-2008, 08:25 PM
well does it make more kw with a aftermarket ecu
does it more have torque
is it worth double the price tag?
tekung89
03-07-2008, 10:16 PM
yeh at the end of the day its jus an intake, why spend $$$ on a mugen filter or some other hardcore brand wen wat u get is jus more noise & looks then power gains.
i'd say stay oem, change filters perhaps and remove resonator box
SHIFTY
03-07-2008, 10:33 PM
For me Mugen is the best... i am using it with my car, and has made sure the pipping is facing my front inditcater(park light) so when i am at the track i take out my light :) and goes fairly hard!
Cheers Dave.
VTECMACHINE
04-07-2008, 12:03 AM
stock intake with after market filter, k&n or spoon drop in
resonator removed of course
or mugen are my choices
Yep exactly the same as above. However, do not use Spoon... Trust is the same, only half the price. Remove resignator, and duct 4 inch air con piping to front bar. It's a great mod tbh - on a budget. Otherwise... i'd def go with Mugen. I have used both set ups, plus a ingen. Mugen wins hands down for me.
VTECMACHINE
04-07-2008, 12:05 AM
If no $$$ as said above remove resonator and fit a pod into your standard air box!
I have tried this also... If, you take the resignator out, you loose PWR and response. a big no no. This is where the pipe from the air box to the front bar comes in handy.
absolutR
04-07-2008, 12:36 AM
injen is sick got it on mine - howls
Behtec_JunKIE
04-07-2008, 01:07 AM
mugen hands down best flow had it on my dc2r since i got it then wen i sold the car took it off made it stock it was totally noticalbe didnt rev as freely. but if u really have no dosh then get creative put somethin together.
philBo
04-07-2008, 08:53 AM
anyone able to back up these statements with some figures? just think that thatd give some better indication as opposed to saying 'x intake' is better; and would make for a better analysis/discussion.
VTECMACHINE
04-07-2008, 09:00 AM
anyone able to back up these statements with some figures? just think that thatd give some better indication as opposed to saying 'x intake' is better; and would make for a better analysis/discussion.
I HAD dyno sheets. But I have no idea where they are. If I recall, after a tune the DIY intake gave me 5kW ATW gain, Mugen 11kW ATW Gain, Ingen 3kW ATW.
EDIT: It was before my ECU, so running stock ECU.
I'll try dig up the dyno sheets.
I HAD dyno sheets. But I have no idea where they are. If I recall, after a tune the DIY intake gave me 5kW ATW gain, Mugen 11kW ATW Gain, Ingen 3kW ATW.
I'll try dig up the dyno sheets.
Did you do it all on the same day and on the same dyno ?
VTECMACHINE
04-07-2008, 09:05 AM
Yeah, it was at Bel quite a while ago... was a bit bored LOL. Good old Eric.
barefootbonzai
04-07-2008, 09:33 AM
Get 4 little intakes!
IZY-10
04-07-2008, 10:27 AM
Get 4 little intakes!
yeah ftmfw :thumbsup::thumbsup:
ewendc2r
04-07-2008, 11:19 AM
I have J's Racing -- Happy with it , great noise and seems to be good for some top end.
joewalsh86
04-07-2008, 11:42 AM
Stock intake arm, bpi velocity stack, k&n air filter, stock airbox with a 4-5 inch custom cold air feed at the bottom coming from behind the indicator <-- I'm about to give this a go when my velocity stack arrives.
A lot of the power from the mugen intake supposedly comes from the velocity stack, so it seems like a good addition to the intake setup. I'll let you know how it goes
edw-R
04-07-2008, 12:24 PM
AGREE :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Get 4 little intakes!
TECDUP
04-07-2008, 12:53 PM
Get 4 little intakes!
KAAAACHING $$$$$$$$$$
votek
04-07-2008, 05:57 PM
so the DIY stock piping is better than the INJEN?
VTECMACHINE
07-07-2008, 10:22 AM
so the DIY stock piping is better than the INJEN?
From what Bel tried... yep.
I think it's an awsome intake. Just there is no bling bling of a shiny pipe in your engine bay.
_matt07
08-07-2008, 11:31 PM
I got the top of the line K&N fipk 57-3509 filter with the piping as well and once i got it the damn thing screamed like no tomorrow when i hit vtec and that was before my exhaust system... now it is even loudeerrrr =D
would definately recommend K&N fipk =D
votek
09-07-2008, 01:41 AM
got any dyno sheets to prove?
Alfred_DC5R
09-07-2008, 10:50 AM
For me Mugen is the best... i am using it with my car, and has made sure the pipping is facing my front inditcater(park light) so when i am at the track i take out my light :) and goes fairly hard!
Cheers Dave.
Did you ever run your car with the piping facing up?
Do you find any difference in feel or power between the two piping positions?
VTECMACHINE
09-07-2008, 01:35 PM
Did you ever run your car with the piping facing up?
Do you find any difference in feel or power between the two piping positions?
I think it would be quite marginal. Mugen designed the intake for the pipe to facing the other direction. But only a dyno would tell.
T-onedc2
10-07-2008, 07:33 PM
... Remove resignator, and duct 4 inch air con piping to front bar. It's a great mod tbh - on a budget.......
I have tried this also... If, you take the resignator out, you loose PWR and response. a big no no. This is where the pipe from the air box to the front bar comes in handy.
just to clarify, what you're saying is....remove the resonator and make sure to replace the restrictive small diameter plastic tubing with larger tube and custom fit from guard to airbox right?
Coz that's what I did, DIY Mugen, works great.
VTECMACHINE
12-07-2008, 11:39 AM
The pipe from intake mani to air box remains the same.
When you remove the resignator (big white box in right hand side guard), remove the small pipe that are attached the resignator aswell. Then from the bottom of the air box, attach 4 inch air con piping and then run the other end of the pipe to the front bar to duct cold air.
It's awsome.
SHIFTY
12-07-2008, 06:48 PM
I think it would be quite marginal. Mugen designed the intake for the pipe to facing the other direction. But only a dyno would tell.
a dyno wouldn't tell.. the whole idea of running without the park/indicator light is u get more air sucked in to ur intake the faster ur moving (more air being forced in) this doesn't happen when the car is still on a dyno....
and no i have only run it how i have it atm....
VTECMACHINE
13-07-2008, 01:16 PM
a dyno wouldn't tell.. the whole idea of running without the park/indicator light is u get more air sucked in to ur intake the faster ur moving (more air being forced in) this doesn't happen when the car is still on a dyno....
and no i have only run it how i have it atm....
Ummm... yes it would happen on a dyno, and there is a powerful fan which is on producing cold air, which blast against the car, creating the "Same" amount of wind as when you were driving.
Trust me a Dyno, WILL tell you if the nossle facing either way, is either better or worse.
The amount of wind is a constant/controlled variable, and the facing the nossle towards or away from the guard - and measuring it will give you a good indication wheather it's better or not.
T-onedc2
13-07-2008, 02:09 PM
^^^ not true
A dyno fan is only enough to keep air flowing over the radiator ie centre of car, that is it's purpose, not nearly a simulation of real world track conditions. In order to test this intake theory somewhat accurately you would need a dyno placed in a wind tunnel testing facility.
VTECMACHINE
14-07-2008, 12:11 AM
^^^ not true
A dyno fan is only enough to keep air flowing over the radiator ie centre of car, that is it's purpose, not nearly a simulation of real world track conditions. In order to test this intake theory somewhat accurately you would need a dyno placed in a wind tunnel testing facility.
True, it's not enough to simulate real life conditions, however it provides enough air, at a constant to test the difference between two variables (in this case the intake). There should be minimal difference but it should be noted on a Dyno graph.
HondaLva
14-07-2008, 12:41 PM
I've run a Comptech Icebox before...was really happy with the design/sound etc. I have no way of know what sort of power it produced. It is a well designed air intake. This was on a VTI-R but...not sure if they do a DC2R one.
From memory she had a S100, Xforce headers + 2.5" Exhaust and the IceBox and she pulled 131~hp atw.
Dunno if the above helps : )
this has been covered a few times... and a lot of ppl say do this and do that... not worth spending a thousand bucks, etc.
do it right the first time... just get a mugen intake...
i have been driving my car stock as a rock bought second hand... come time to install my mugen, i realised that the previous owner actually removed the resonator box in stock intake... installed my mugen and response like no tomorrow! have had no regrets spending that thousand dollars...
and i'll have to dig up my dyno sheets, but compared to 'stock' and 'mugen', i got 5 kw atw extra. most importantly, response was heavily improved.
VTECMACHINE
15-07-2008, 02:29 PM
this has been covered a few times... and a lot of ppl say do this and do that... not worth spending a thousand bucks, etc.
do it right the first time... just get a mugen intake...
i have been driving my car stock as a rock bought second hand... come time to install my mugen, i realised that the previous owner actually removed the resonator box in stock intake... installed my mugen and response like no tomorrow! have had no regrets spending that thousand dollars...
and i'll have to dig up my dyno sheets, but compared to 'stock' and 'mugen', i got 5 kw atw extra. most importantly, response was heavily improved.
In all honesty, if your car is for the street, there is no point in spending thousands of dollars for an intake.
Not saying you don't track your car, but if you don't, and you simply checked the resignator box - by fitting a resignator box, you'd have pretty much the same response as the Mugen, and the power gains would be hardly noticable with out a dyno.
So if some people are NOT fussy, why waste "thousands".
PS: Mugen air boxs can be had for $700 - $750.
00dc2
15-07-2008, 03:47 PM
~$800 delivered from nengun
The sound alone is worth the money imo...
T-onedc2
15-07-2008, 04:52 PM
In all honesty, if your car is for the street, there is no point in spending thousands of dollars for an intake.
Not saying you don't track your car, but if you don't, and you simply checked the resignator box - by fitting a resignator box, you'd have pretty much the same response as the Mugen, and the power gains would be hardly noticable with out a dyno.
So if some people are NOT fussy, why waste "thousands".
PS: Mugen air boxs can be had for $700 - $750.
You forgot to add IMO
Many people, including myself wouldn't mind "wasting" the money on such a good product , you simply cannot replicate the Mugen's design (ie, smooth bends and correct diameter) with a cheap diy
ewendc2r
15-07-2008, 05:32 PM
..When I tell friends how much I spend on items for my car, they go omg, you are wasting your money. I just remind them how I used to spend the money and then they agree --- 'Wasting' money is relative from one person to another - $1000 is cheap for a product that gives you a warm fuzzy feeling if you earn good $$.
At the end of the day -- If it makes you feel good, just buy it. Because if it doesn't, you'll end up replacing it anyway. Basically agree with the guy above, do it right the first time how you would ideally want it. If you are on a hard budget, then you shouldn't be 'wasting' the money on cars in the first place - There is no finish line with modification :)
TECDUP
15-07-2008, 07:03 PM
Basically agree with the guy above, do it right the first time how you would ideally want it. If you are on a hard budget, then you shouldn't be 'wasting' the money on cars in the first place - There is no finish line with modification :)
Agree!!!
It never ends... :p
VTECMACHINE
16-07-2008, 09:03 AM
You forgot to add IMO
Many people, including myself wouldn't mind "wasting" the money on such a good product , you simply cannot replicate the Mugen's design (ie, smooth bends and correct diameter) with a cheap diy
That is very true. I myself have had a mugen air box for a few years now, and I love it.
But I was getting at... for the street, who needs that extra 2kw's for an extra $500 or so.
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