FYI: EK Jacking Points

[AutoNoob]

Hi,

since im about to paint wheels, change engine oil and other DIY kool stuff to save me money. I had to consult multiple MSN people just to find this...which was so clearly outlined in the user manual ...
so I'll post a message to remind people where to find these jacking points.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/f7bd133910.jpg

and here is what it looks like in real life. Ignore the scratch marks.

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/fa4568ee96.jpg

thanks, (please give me PQ points too lol)

[xtat1k]

^^ Lol!
fail.

[Red_EG4]

dont you normally use the ones on the side?

[bennjamin]

the front one yes. And there is 4 side jack points....no rear point tho. Most people use the toe-hook as a jackpoint but this can be quite unsafe.

[Int3gra-T]

^^ Lol!
fail.

ROFLmao

[RtN]

So the steps to jack up whole car for those maintenance items would be jack up the front through the diagram then put 2 jackstands on the sides and then jack up the rear via the hook then put another 2 jackstands eh? thanks.

[Zdster]

the front one yes. And there is 4 side jack points....no rear point tho. Most people use the toe-hook as a jackpoint but this can be quite unsafe.

Agreed. Do not use the tow hook at the rear to jack the car up. They are not made for that kind of lateral load.

[aaronng]

Agreed. Do not use the tow hook at the rear to jack the car up. They are not made for that kind of lateral load.

It's fine if you are jacking it up to put jackstands under the car.

[CRXer]

Agree with aarong,use the toe hook & get under that car pronto ya pansies.

[Zdster]

It's fine if you are jacking it up to put jackstands under the car.

I dont know. Have seen photos of tow hooks distorting/bending from jacking straight up. My preference is still to use the sides or front. Also, you dont have a lot of surface space for the jack to sit on which i dont like.

[CRXer]

I dont know. Have seen photos of tow hooks distorting/bending from jacking straight up. My preference is still to use the sides or front.

i bet u havent really

[aaronng]

I dont know. Have seen photos of tow hooks distorting/bending from jacking straight up. My preference is still to use the sides or front. Also, you dont have a lot of surface space for the jack to sit on which i dont like.

How do you jack it up on the side if you are trying to put jackstands under that same side jack point? Jacking on the chassis is not the answer...

[dupac->]

^^ very true.

im stil using my tow hook havent failed me yet..

if sides have jack points and front has jacking points

ther MUST be a jack point from the rear..

TOW HOOK!

[CRXer]

Have a look at the OP's pic,even $onda recommends the tow hook for jacking,so they must of engineered it to suit.

[dupac->]

yeah!

but where did he get that pic from?
lol

hey what's "OP" stand for?

[CRXer]

have a look in any $onda service manual u can find.

OP=original/opening poster

[watchmaker]

i always use the tow hook to jack it up
ive seen some ppl use the rear subframe.. is that safe ?

[CRXer]

if ur using a trolley jack,chances are greater of the car slipping off the sub frame more than the tow hook

[mEh.]

the front one yes. And there is 4 side jack points....no rear point tho. Most people use the toe-hook as a jackpoint but this can be quite unsafe.

Is there another way to raise the rear as high as possible to put 2 jackstands under either rear side points?

[CRXer]

rear chassis has plenty of spots for jack stands,also the suspension if your not working on it.

[Zdster]

i bet u havent really

Um yeah :o:zip:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s287/psg_photos/GC%20Plate%20Prototyping/Ugly%20Panda%20-%2095%20Impreza/GC-Plate-Prototyping-110807-004.jpg

[ek4-guy]

isn't the diagram that has the tow hook from the manual? If so i don't see the problem with jacking using the tow hook.

Like a few people have said just use it to lift and then take the load with axle stands under the sides.

You should never get under any car that is not suported by proper stands anyway.

[CRXer]

look how corroded the piece of shit is for one & two was it really caused by jacking?

[CRXer]

oh & also,thats an offset front tow hook:wave:

try again..............

[ek4-guy]

Damn Zdster thats a chucky hook i couldn't see it bending under the weight of a honda rear end. Or is that a front end because we are talking about the rear end hook that is in the centre of the car. Also the rear end is much lighter.

[dupac->]

lol we talking about an EK jacking point!

not a different car!!

but yeah i trust the rear tow hook more for the jacking point than the actual front jakcing point of the EK..



RUSTY OLD HOOK Zdster!!!

lol... probably bent from bottoming out on a steep driveway :D

[ek4-guy]

Zdster i think you owe our noob that PQ point that he wants

[aaronng]

Um yeah :o:zip:

[IMG]http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s287/psg_photos/GC%20Plate%20Prototyping/Ugly%20Panda%20-%2095%20Impreza/GC-Plate-Prototyping-110807-004.jpg[IMG]

That's not the rear towhook.
Heck, that is not even an EK! It's a bloody Impreza. It is not the strength of the hook that determines if it can be jacked at that point. It is the part of the chassis that the towhook is connected to that matters.

[aaronng]

Zdster i think you owe our noob that PQ point that he wants
I was going to give the OP a point but then I saw that he asked for points. My policy is not to give points if they ask for it as they are not posting to be helpful, but posting for points...............

But in this case..... Heck I'll give him the points because it clears up confusion even with the older members.

[Zdster]

Zdster i think you owe our noob that PQ point that he wants

I have already outlined my objections - cant be bothered saying anymore. For those that are interested search for 'bent tow hook' or 'jacking tow hook' on honda-tech and you will see some examples of where tow hooks have bent.

[CRXer]

couldnt find any examples yourself in your long absence?

[aaronng]

I have already outlined my objections - cant be bothered saying anymore. For those that are interested search for 'bent tow hook' or 'jacking tow hook' on honda-tech and you will see some examples of where tow hooks have bent.
I searched for both and didn't find shit other than bent front tow hooks and some girl jacking up at the rear tow hook but not using jackstands (no mention of it being bent).

[dupac->]

well i think the rear tow hook is fine.

im still hgonna jack the car fromthe rear tow hook..

lol easiest point.

[putang]

anyone got pics of the actual point where the tow hook is connected to?

[dupac->]

anyone got pics of the actual point where the tow hook is connected to?
ill post when i get home.

:)

[Bludger]

the front one yes. And there is 4 side jack points....no rear point tho. Most people use the toe-hook as a jackpoint but this can be quite unsafe.how so???

i use it all the time and its also recommended in the manuals

[Bludger]

ill post when i get home.

:)roflmfao

[Bludger]

****ing hell

I just put a block of wood on the trolley jack

whatever surface from the car will dig into the wood piece and then it won't go no where.

i agree with CRXer

too many pansy's

[dupac->]

hahaha

true.

just jack the damn thing up

[aaronng]

****ing hell

I just put a block of wood on the trolley jack

whatever surface from the car will dig into the wood piece and then it won't go no where.

i agree with CRXer

too many pansy's

Depends on the model of the car. I tried it with mine and it didn't work. :thumbdwn::thumbdwn::thumbdwn:

[CRXer]

and some girl jacking up at the rear tow hook but not using jackstands (no mention of it being bent).


pics or ban,was she hot???

[aaronng]

pics or ban,was she hot???

LOL. You be the judge. http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2203436&page=1

[mrwillz]

cool ek!

[CRXer]

haha,poor Tiff,i suppose she aint that bad for a chick that gets on the tools,big props for that

[AutoNoob]

thanks for the OP point aaron :D

My next DIY will be a full documented sway bar install ... once i get it that is.
Maybe a noob changing oil guide too. To distinguish noob installs from pro installs ^__^

[Bludger]

LOL. You be the judge. http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=2203436&page=1fuk yeah

Ide tap that, right over the bonnet.

[Bludger]

I'm gonna propose to her over pm

[putang]

fuk yeah

Ide tap that, right over the bonnet.

you'd be silly not too! SHAT

[Zdster]

couldnt find any examples yourself in your long absence?

I am still waiting for you to post where it says in an ek manual to jack from a tow hook . . .

[mugsee]

Zdster, who is your mechanic and where do they jack up your car when they need to lift up the rear?

[AutoNoob]

the user manual which came with the car just says lift from the 4 side points.
the user manual for EK (1000 page bible) says recommended jacking points as in the screenshot. (tow hook and radiator support)...unless the manual is wrong.

[D16EK1]

:( i didn't get a 1000 page bible when i bought my car... but i has a hoist so i can use that yay! but the radiator support and tow hooks are a go.

[wlee2]

the user manual which came with the car just says lift from the 4 side points.
the user manual for EK (1000 page bible) says recommended jacking points as in the screenshot. (tow hook and radiator support)...unless the manual is wrong.

i have a feeling the User manual(which came with the car) says that, because what is supplied with a car is a scissor jack. It would be very unsafe to lift the car from the front or rear (with a scissor jack), not to mention difficult.

i dont know about the rest of the scissor jacks.. but mine has a groove that fits into the side jacks points i guess for added safety?

[VTECMACHINE]

Damn I am going to do a DIY install of how to install new windscreen wiper arms when I get home tonight! Stay posted.

LOL at you guys trying to prove the guy wrong. Has he even provided the right pics yet? LOL.

Rear toe hook is fine. Ball for jack stand even. Just depends how hardcore you are. I'm pretty much just slightly more awsome than Chuck Norris himself.

http://images.tdaxp.com/tdaxp_upload/mike_huckabee_chuck_norris_approved.jpg

[RtN]

Bricks!

[Zdster]

I'm pretty much just slightly more awsome than Chuck Norris himself.


This is funny because:
1. You are a noob
2. You have a red dot already against your name




the user manual for EK (1000 page bible)

What is this 1000 page bible you speak off? Is it an OEM item?

[chargeR]

What is this 1000 page bible you speak off? Is it an OEM item?

I suspect he is referring to the Helms manual, from which the images in the first post are taken.

Anyone work at honda and can scan a real factory manual to settle this?

I have had no trouble jacking up plenty of FWD Hondas from the rear tow hook, including EKs, in the past.

[EKVTIR-T]

This is from the Accord V6 manual.Can't find the ek one YET.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/921/attachmentut3.jpg

If it can support an Accord V6 surely an ek would be fine ;)

Guys just ignore Zdster he's a clown..

[Zdster]

This is from the Accord V6 manual.Can't find the ek one YET.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/921/attachmentut3.jpg

If it can support an Accord V6 surely an ek would be fine ;)

Guys just ignore Zdster he's a clown..

LOL - I am a clown?

What sort of manual is it from Helms? Honda?
Secondly, you dont think that tow hooks are engineered differently on different cars? If so, then you sir are the clown.

[wlee2]

I am still waiting for you to post where it says in an ek manual to jack from a tow hook . . .

Front cover of the manual

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9783&stc=1&d=1215498734

Hoist points, Lift , stands

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9782&stc=1&d=1215498734

Floor Jack points

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9781&stc=1&d=1215498734

[EKVTIR-T]

rofl!

nice one wayne....

[Eclipsor]

http://media.honda.co.uk/car/owner/media/manuals/CivicManual/pdf/1-12.pdf

[VTECMACHINE]

This is funny because:
1. You are a noob
2. You have a red dot already against your name



Did you actually Laugh? I'll be happy if I made you chuckle a little.

red dot's are awsome man.

[ek4-guy]

i must admit i had a raugh

[mugsee]

LOL - I am a clown?



Yes, you are a clown, according to your own words.


you dont think that tow hooks are engineered differently on different cars? If so, then you sir are the clown.

Refer to the pic that you posted of the bent tow hook, not on an EK Civic.

[mrwillz]

wayne wins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CRXer]

Damn,u guys beat me to the punch.............

I hope ur happy now Zdster,i just downloaded 70M worth of useless service manual to me,just to keep u slightly amused.BTW have a look in any honda service manual u can get your hands on,same shit.

Note the title bar.......

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/CRXer/ScreenHunter_09Jul081822.jpg

[dupac->]

nice.

ej6 ej7 ej8?

[CRXer]

nice.

ej6 ej7 ej8?

same shit just yank crap.

[bennjamin]

how so???

i use it all the time and its also recommended in the manuals

I know honda says to jack up from here :)
it officially is a tow-hook. And it can be unsafe to do so tho , so take care !
Use a block of wood etc to avoid the jack moving around too much.
Dont leave a car suspended just by the rear towhook guys get it onto jack stands asap

[Bludger]

I know honda says to jack up from here :)
it officially is a tow-hook. And it can be unsafe to do so tho , so take care !
Use a block of wood etc to avoid the jack moving around too much.
Dont leave a car suspended just by the rear towhook guys get it onto jack stands asapthats what i said i do, use a block of wood between the hook and jack

[RtN]

hmm put these to the test but the front arised with problems.. on my friends dc2 we used to front jack point ROFL and the whole radiator was moving up with it GG. is that supposed to happen. so instead we just used the front tow hooks.. jacking up each side first

[Bludger]

must be something really wrong if the radiator if lifting when you're jacking it up.

[RtN]

must be something really wrong if the radiator if lifting when you're jacking it up.

indeed.. i jacked up my em1 today with the front jack point. it's fine. yeh maybe something wrong with friends dc2 lol.

[munkaii]

Maybe he jacked it up from too far at the front. Was he trying to do it off the cross member?

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Has it been in a accident before?

[VTECMACHINE]

Awesome thread! 10 points!

[beeza]

Yeah,never used the middle front and back jacking points,didn't know ya could haha

Thanks mate!

I also will give rep (even though U asked for it) because like Aaron says,it's cleared up some confusion.

[Bludger]

I myself never use the 4(four) jacking points :-
- Front left
- Front right
- Rear left
- Rear right

I always use front center and rear center.

Reason being is because jacking up from the above mentioned points will some what twist the vehicle's chassis to some degree. I don't like the idea of that.

The only circumstances I use the 4(four) above mentioned jacking points is when i rest the car on Jack Stands, or the vehicle isn't at home & in an emergency situation.... ie. flat tire.