places that lower your car for $300-400 any tricks?

[migoreng]

i've been to sites like ozzy tyres and they can lower your car for $300-400
is there anything bad at all?

i know they only supply king springs or whatever
when lowering a car is there anything else to it besides taking apart the suspension and swapping the stock springs with the new one?
ty

[Alpine]

Advisable to get a wheel alignment after the spring swap too.

Also before doing the spring swap to lower, ensure the wheels you have (if aftermarket) have an offset that won't cause rubbing.

[MWAKU]

replacing shocks?

[migoreng]

i will have to get my shocks checked out...
if the shocks will be fine for another year or 2 on the lowered springs then i will just get springs
is a 1-1.5" drop on stock shocks really that bad?
people make it sound like it's suicide or something..
is it really that bad?

so there's nothing wrong at all with paying $400 to get lowered springs installed?

[Alpine]

With a 1-1.5" drop you can get away with the stock shocks for a while, but they will "die" sooner than if left at standard height. It's only if you drop it 2.5-3" or more on stock shocks, then it's suicide. ;-)

Around $400 seems to be more or less the going rate from my own shopping around too.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

1-1.5" drop on stock springs should be ok

Id advise a wheel alignment and check if the rims you will be using wont rub (as mentioned above)

IMO 400 for getting lowering springs with install is rape...

You can buy QUALITY lowering springs for less and get them installed by a (what i consider Professional) like "Bennjamin" (and he does the job right and at a good price)

Good luck mate :)

[migoreng]

i just wanted to know about what you get for $400 lol
i originally planned to order eibach springs and get my mech friend to help me

yeah for some reason i don't like king springs

also my wheels are stock
205/50/16

[Alpine]

205/50/16 - what car do you have?

[migoreng]

97 prelude vti-r

[rayb3na_]

you wont have a problem.. mate slammed 4 inches on 16s no scrubbing its fine!

[kazam]

down 2.5" on 17's slight scrubbing on full lock with 2 or more people in the car, no biggy, roll gaurds... but um, have a look around here for sum 2nd hand springs, then get benny 2 instal them 4 u :) i paid half of wat u paid and im happy as sh!t... also u will probly regret wasting 400 on a 1", 1.5" drop... thats like 2 - 3 cm... hardly noticable on stock wheelz unless your like me and just looking 2 fill the wheel arch gap then yeh watever...

[migoreng]

you paid $200 to lower your car??
lol

well from looking at my car a 1.5" drop should leave a 1-2 finger gap.
i'm happy to pay $300-400 to lower my car anyway.
i will have to look around and hope i can find good springs like eibach for $300ish
:)
and yeah i know a wheel alignment is necessary so that's another $30 or so..

[AutoNoob]

it amazes me to see so many cars lowered like 2+ inches and almost no one gets defected!!! ever....
The legal limit on my cars 1.5 inches, pedders sag to 2.5!!!!
300-400 doesnt include shocks does it?

[kazam]

i thought the defect was on the clearance of the entire body of the car? as in, the lowest point of the car has to be more than 50mm off the ground or something?

[vinnY]

^ afaik its 100mm from the lowest point on the car

koni yellows(stock height perch)
eibach sportline springs
http://img117.imageshack.us/img117/9863/heightissueyy8.th.jpg (http://img117.imageshack.us/my.php?image=heightissueyy8.jpg)

seems to only scrub on full lock on the passenger side only when the ground is uneven
flat surface seems to be okay though
running stock ek4 rims with 195/55/15 reoo1's

[kazam]

ahh i thought it was something like that, ty for confirmation +1 for you :)

[migoreng]

i heard some people do a wheel alignment 1 or 2 weeks after installing new springs.
should you do it straight after or wait a little?
i'm still thinking between kings or eibach...
is there much difference? will kings sag really bad after a year or something?
what about spring rates? the higher the rate the bumpier the ride right?

also i've heard about bushings and all that. is it best for me to get em checked when getting the springs changed?
are the bushings and all that widely available? if i need to change em will it take a day or two or should someone be able to make a quick trip and buy a set? what about prices?

[EG3B16]

i heard some people do a wheel alignment 1 or 2 weeks after installing new springs.
should you do it straight after or wait a little?
i'm still thinking between kings or eibach...
is there much difference? will kings sag really bad after a year or something?
what about spring rates? the higher the rate the bumpier the ride right?

also i've heard about bushings and all that. is it best for me to get em checked when getting the springs changed?
are the bushings and all that widely available? if i need to change em will it take a day or two or should someone be able to make a quick trip and buy a set? what about prices?

U should wait before doing the alignment.... u have to wait for your springs to settle..

thats y they advice 1-2 weeks to come back..... usually its free anyways..

[baeshin]

mate got his lowerd at ozzy tyres $390.. dun fink it was king spring tho

[migoreng]

i called ozzy recently...the guy didn't have a good attitude..
apparent they only use kings/kmac

their website makes them sound like like pros but when you call em up they sound like typical hoons...
he said something like 'bring it in, we'll measure your car, you choose where you want it to sit and we will do it for you'
i asked if they can order eibach..the guy replied to me with 'why'?
cause i said i prefer eibach over kings...i asked if they can order it and they go no...
then i said thanks and the guy just hung up...
very good phone manners...

[kazam]

coz your asian and his probly lebo and he stereo typed u as typicial asian bringing in your honda seevic (althought u have a prelude the stereotype worked better with seevic) to lower it on your 15" JDM rims which is offensive 2 them because they sell nothing smaller than 22" usually installed on coupes


LOL

nah but seriously most of these places are like this...

[baeshin]

yeh theyre like that.... they dun really care much abt customers ..quoting etc

even if u go to the place.. dun expect them to full rush up to you and welcome u this that.

if u want eibach..

Sydney Shock Absorbers
Phone: 02 9516 1182

call em n i gues get a mechanic to install em for u.. aint that hard, i can even do em

[migoreng]

lol...
i know how they are..
i deal with people as a job and i know when i see someone that is going to be annoying
i had one come in and say stuff liek
'bro i bought this a few months ago and recently it f'ed up on me' and shit'

yes them and their 20" inch rims slammed under the guards..
i don't like cars that are dumped like that..i like my mods to be subtle if you know what i mean..i don't want my rear wheel 2 inches inside the guard or anything. i just want an even drop with a 1-2finger gap above the wheel and i want to be able to get to most places in sydney..
getting stuck on every speed bump is not cool..
recently i saw a ute with the front high and the rear wheel half way under the guard...
WTF is that stupid shit? seriously...

[kazam]

probly on bags bro, especially since its a ute, the chances of it being on bags are extremely high...

[Big_Red_]

Mate make sure you do the homework before you get it all done.
Dropped mine an inch or so and kicked the wheels up to 17's (with low profiles) a few weeks ago.
Unfortunately the offset on the wheels isn't the best and even with rolled guards it scrubs on bumps.
Also I was dumb and got my shocks checked AFTER having it lowered, found out they arn't in the best condition so now i need to replace the shocks (and some other bits and pieces).
Could've spent the cash in the beggining and got coilovers :mad:
Fulcrum does the checks for free too.
Live and learn though i spose.

O also i went through Ozzy and i'd say im neither for nor against them.

[migoreng]

not planning to get rims at all...
i will have to ask around for a few more days then i will work it out.
thanks for the phone number on the previous page
yeah i did find that sydney shocks place but never had time to get around to them.
they are the only guys in sydney on the eibach site.
if it's around $300 for the prokit i'll be happy...

about the shocks, is it as easy as taking off the wheel and checking for leaks or is there more to it like doing a suspension test?
my car only bounces once when you push down on the car chassis. my local mechanic said the shocks bounce fine when he did that and he didn't see any leaks. when he was under the car.

[vinnY]

$300 in australia? stop kidding yourself
they're ~$500AU without installation
pay up if you want the good stuff otherwise its just wishful thinking

[migoreng]

hmm
i see
i'm getting different answers from everyone...

well like i said i'm gonna be asking around this week and i'll see what happens..

[bennjamin]

mr migoreng....US ebay as i mentioned to you :)
You can get it , including shipping from the US for considerably less than sold for here.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

LOL

Skunk2's on ebay in the states is around 400 all up delivered and Honda Tech guys would SWEAR there lives on those things

US ebay might say "we dont deliver over seas" but there are places that WILL and if you contact those who dont some may just say yes

[vinnY]

yep you can hit up egay, shipping is gay now though
i'm sure benj can help you out on the install

[TCP]

i was gona get mine lowered but after reading this im not sure if i can..
i got a ek civic with 205/55/15 tyres will that scrub my guards? i think ek usually have 195/55/15s yea?

[vinnY]

205/55's a bit fat

i was running 205/50/15 with my current ride height(pic above) and it was fine

[TCP]

damn so id better get new tyres

[vinnY]

well depends how low you wanna go mate

[TCP]

was just gona put king springs

[vinnY]

2.5" drop?
you'll be definitely scrubbing :)

[steve88]

i already got king spring lows, what can i do to lower them more to save me replacing the springs... compressing springs?

[VTECMACHINE]

In regards to thread title:

A place you can visit to lower your car is the beach.
Fill up bags of sand and place them stratigically around the inside of your car.

[migoreng]

-_-......
i want to low my car..not slow it
:P

[vinnY]

vtecmachine's right though, cheapest way around it :p

on another note i received my ground control sleeves this morning :)
you should buy some :p

[Zimp13]

dropping 1-1.5" is definitely not enuf for most hondas..... if u gonna use stock rims, it wont scrub.... the ride for king spring is not bad at all, caught me by surprise.... definitely better than pedders.... king is value for $$$$$.....

[hondajazz2005]

i agree with zimp13, i drop my jazz 1.5" with skunk2 and it seems like it hasnt been lower.......... LOL

[azzacrombe]

hey guys,

I just put a new set of 18" rims on my 04 Integra. Now theres about a 2.5" gap between the top of the tyre and the car and I want to get my car lowerd. I know its already mentioned in this thread, but wanted to clarify, that if I just got new springs and left the stock shocks in there it should be fine as long as im not dropping it more than 2" right? I actually would prefer to just drop in about 1.5" cause i know if i go down 2" im definately going to get some scrubbing.

The place i installed the wheels (Tech9tyres) said they can lower it for $500 with new springs (have to ask them what springs though) but Pedders quoted me $832 :S which seems like a huge difference for the sam job???

[migoreng]

my thread is alive again:P
Just letting you guys know that my springs have been perfectly fine for the last 3 years.
Still have a 2 finger gap front/rear...King springs haven't sagged or anything. My shocks are still going strong even at 250,000km on the odometer. IIRC the springs were installed at the ~180,000km mark.
Kings lows will drop roughly 1.5 inches.
Not sure about super lows but I wouldn't recommend going any lower than 1.5-2 inches on stock shocks.

[Symphorced]

hey guys,

I just put a new set of 18" rims on my 04 Integra. Now theres about a 2.5" gap between the top of the tyre and the car and I want to get my car lowerd. I know its already mentioned in this thread, but wanted to clarify, that if I just got new springs and left the stock shocks in there it should be fine as long as im not dropping it more than 2" right? I actually would prefer to just drop in about 1.5" cause i know if i go down 2" im definately going to get some scrubbing.

The place i installed the wheels (Tech9tyres) said they can lower it for $500 with new springs (have to ask them what springs though) but Pedders quoted me $832 :S which seems like a huge difference for the sam job???

Pedders is always a rip off. They charge ridiculous amounts for average workmanship/products.

[richard_k]

coilovers bro :D

[azzacrombe]

Thanks guys.

Yeah i thought pedders were a bit overpriced. I dont think im going to go any lower than 2". Around 1.5" would be the most. Richard I would love to get coilovers but they are a bit out of the range for me atm and im in Perth, not much racing going on about here ;)

[FenrirWC]

IF your gonna lower your car you gotta do the shoe test. if you can fit your shoe between the tyre and the wheel arch its not low enough =) so says Mighty Car Mods.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT_jgVqxH5U

On a more serious note you could just install the springs yourself i dont think it would be hard to do and maybe some ozhonda members who are in the area could even help you out. As for what springs you want, thats entirely up to you :cool:

[MWAKU]

PM me if u want springs and shocks, lowers a lot more than 2" tho

[azzacrombe]

Thanks for the offer MWAKU but i think if i go lower than 2" im definately going to have a problem with the wheels scrapping when i turn and also the front bumper when going up driveways. I had this issue with my 94 Honda Civic and even though it looked awesome, its quite a headache. Also if i drop it more than 2" im prob going to have to change my shocks.

I got a quote for $500 lowered on king springs with a drop of 40mm (1.6") which i think is perfect for my car. Leaves a gap of about 2cms between the tyre and the car and im sure my shoe wont fit in that (according to the "shoe test" stated by FenrirWC :D).

Thanks for the help guys, really appreciate it. Will post pics when its all done.