Problem with brake and wheels please help !

[dansanhdieu]

Got my 04 euro luxury for a week now .

Drive to blue mountains and back today and notice very serious problem with my brake or wheels . When i drive down hill around 90km / h if i press the brake hard enough i can feel the vibration affect on the car like your steering wheels is vibrating as well .

When back on normal road driving around 110km / h i tried to leave the wheels uncontrol . The car tend to go to left side instead of straight .

I tested it again when back to sydney . Even while driving 60 km /h and press brake i can still feel it although less notice than when you drive faster . One more think i know is my tyres make alot of noise on freeway . The car have 4 very new tyres when i bought it Continential - Premium Contact 205/55R16 91H

is this a good brand ? i am not sure it because of the wheels or the brake that make the problem but i am very worry i think the car is not safe to drive especially when on freeway . Since the car is used and only come with 3 months or 5000 km from the dealer . are they gonna cover if something go wrong with my brake or wheels . I thinking about bring the car to Bob Jane Tmart in Bankstown for them to have a check .

Please help

[Crapdaz]

Got my 04 euro luxury for a week now .

Drive to blue mountains and back today and notice very serious problem with my brake or wheels . When i drive down hill around 90km / h if i press the brake hard enough i can feel the vibration affect on the car like your steering wheels is vibrating as well .

When back on normal road driving around 110km / h i tried to leave the wheels uncontrol . The car tend to go to left side instead of straight .

I tested it again when back to sydney . Even while driving 60 km /h and press brake i can still feel it although less notice than when you drive faster . One more think i know is my tyres make alot of noise on freeway . The car have 4 very new tyres when i bought it Continential - Premium Contact 205/55R16 91H

is this a good brand ? i am not sure it because of the wheels or the brake that make the problem but i am very worry i think the car is not safe to drive especially when on freeway . Since the car is used and only come with 3 months or 5000 km from the dealer . are they gonna cover if something go wrong with my brake or wheels . I thinking about bring the car to Bob Jane Tmart in Bankstown for them to have a check .

Please help
continental are reputable branded tyres.

from what i think you maybe need to take it to get wheel alignment and balance and also get check on it as your saying your getting vibrations.

[biee2]

i think may be a wheel alignment and balancing of wheels first and see if it still does the same thing coz you did say that the car tends to go towards the left

[traumatized]

i think you may be experiencing brake shudder due to the brake overheating and possibly warpped bake discs.

see how you go when you are driving short trips when the car has not done a long trip , if it still happens then your disc are warpped and need machining.

[tony1234]

Got my 04 euro luxury for a week now .

Drive to blue mountains and back today and notice very serious problem with my brake or wheels . When i drive down hill around 90km / h if i press the brake hard enough i can feel the vibration affect on the car like your steering wheels is vibrating as well .

When back on normal road driving around 110km / h i tried to leave the wheels uncontrol . The car tend to go to left side instead of straight .

I tested it again when back to sydney . Even while driving 60 km /h and press brake i can still feel it although less notice than when you drive faster . One more think i know is my tyres make alot of noise on freeway . The car have 4 very new tyres when i bought it Continential - Premium Contact 205/55R16 91H

is this a good brand ? i am not sure it because of the wheels or the brake that make the problem but i am very worry i think the car is not safe to drive especially when on freeway . Since the car is used and only come with 3 months or 5000 km from the dealer . are they gonna cover if something go wrong with my brake or wheels . I thinking about bring the car to Bob Jane Tmart in Bankstown for them to have a check .

Please help
you have 2 problems.
1)Either you have brake pad deposits on your rotors(most likely) or rotors are warped.Replace with a good aftermarket pad such as Endless and or machine rotors.
2)Wheel alignment and get wheel balance as well to be sure.
Continental is a good brand(i have Conti Sport Contact 2s)and they are usually a quiet tyre except on coarse bitumen roads.Also check tyre pressure.I suggest 36-38psi all round.

[dansanhdieu]

you have 2 problems.
1)Either you have brake pad deposits on your rotors(most likely) or rotors are warped.Replace with a good aftermarket pad such as Endless and or machine rotors.
2)Wheel alignment and get wheel balance as well to be sure.
Continental is a good brand(i have Conti Sport Contact 2s)and they are usually a quiet tyre except on coarse bitumen roads.Also check tyre pressure.I suggest 36-38psi all round.

Thanks for all your help

I am not sure if all the tyre shop open on a Sunday but i will bring to them first for wheel alignment and also wheel balance .

I am not sure if Bob Jane T-marts can check and change the brake if it have problem or i have to bring to diff shop .

i think you may be experiencing brake shudder due to the brake overheating and possibly warpped bake discs.

"....see how you go when you are driving short trips when the car has not done a long trip , if it still happens then your disc are warpped and need machining....."

IF this is the case it is expensive to change a new one ?

[euro77]

if your disc is slightly warped (not that bad), it can still be machined back to smooth, so not going to be that expensive. but if it's badly warped and need to be replaced, shop around first, don't go for genuine honda oem which is usually very expensive (if you get it from the dealer). you might get better aftermarket rotor for similar (if not cheaper) price.

You can either take your car to the dealer for them to assess the problem, or take it to a reputable brake shop and ask them to see if your rotor is warped and get them to machine it if they are warped.

[Min988]

1. Sounds like ABS system kick in to me, hit the brake hard enough and your pedal will start feeling like its shuttering.

2. Heading left is quite normal just depends how much though roads have a slight lean to the left for water to run off it.

[angel]

You have a warped disc. Take it to a brake specialist and get them to machine it to have an even surface, if it hasnt been machined, then you should'nt have to replace the disc as it is still thick, they will measure it anyway before they do the machining. this happens if the car is always get driven with a lot of stop and go driving. The car tends to go one side, get a complete wheel alignment & balance. If you're still inside the warranty period, go get the dealer to fix it.

[tron07]

Vibrations or juddering while braking usually is due to disc warping. Machining helps but its not a long term solution as it will come back. There is a thread about disc warping and not to machine the disc as the weight will not be even or something.

Car pulling to the side is usually due to alllignment problem and while you are doing your allignment, balance the tires too...

[Type R Positive]

1. Sounds like ABS system kick in to me, hit the brake hard enough and your pedal will start feeling like its shuttering.
Good call.

How hard are you braking dansanhdieu? :confused:

[dansanhdieu]

1. Sounds like ABS system kick in to me, hit the brake hard enough and your pedal will start feeling like its shuttering.
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I didn't press that hard i think . I did drive cars with ABS system before and never feel like this one . Tried to book in for a brake system check a wheel alignment today but it too late . Will come back tomorrow to see what mechanics say about my car problem .

Tony ,

I did check my tyre pressure and put is all around 36-38 it feel better before . But i like everyone here suggest i pretty sure my car got problem with the brake system

[itr_dc5]

definitely wrapped disc machine the disc replace the pads and all will be as new.

[dansanhdieu]

definitely wrapped disc machine the disc replace the pads and all will be as new.

I went to replace the pads and machine the disc + wheels alignment + tyres balance .

All the problem gone . Thanks alot for all your help great forum .

[tony1234]

I went to replace the pads and machine the disc + wheels alignment + tyres balance .

All the problem gone . Thanks a lot for all your help great forum .
Good to hear.

[K24A]

i just noticed a metal grinding/clanking noise coming from the front left wheel when going forward. it doesnt always occur, it comes and goes and it doesnt occur under braking. anyone have any ideas?

[bennjamin]

brake disc shield maybe warped and touching the caliper or disc or wheel spokes as they rotate. Get teh wheel off and have a look.
Also maybe a stone or similar stuck in the caliper or disc shield making the noise. again , take off teh wheel and have alook

[Crapdaz]

bend the brake disc shield back and see if it affects it.

if you havea stone stuck in the caliper you will have a shreak noise, loud scrapping.
but yeh take it off or just spin the wheel and see if you can replicate the problem.

Kevin - u are still running the stocky wheels right?

[K24A]

ye, im still running the stock wheels. its not the screeching noise like when the brake pads are worn. it sounds more like as if the caliper or something is grinding against something hard. i will check tomorrow.

[Crapdaz]

ye, im still running the stock wheels. its not the screeching noise like when the brake pads are worn. it sounds more like as if the caliper or something is grinding against something hard. i will check tomorrow.
get a slim metal ruler and slide it between the pad + the rotor.
might be a pebble stuck in between, i had one in my front wheel and it was bloody loud not clanging just grinding/screeching.

unless your getting vibrations through the steering, then it shouldn't be too much of a big deal.

Brake dust shield might be touching.

Goodluck kev.