Turbosmart manual boost controller Boost Lag

[Lukezen27]

Hey Guys

I've just installed a Turbosmart manual boost controller.
http://www.importscene.com.au/images/fg-gbcv-bt_250.jpg

I've got it set to about 9-10psi

Now since install the boost takes a bit longer to come on then hits harder when it dose.

Is this normal?

[Sexc86]

yep sounds right to me

[mooshie]

Since we are on the subject, can anyone explain why? I would like to know the mechanisms used in this type of controller.

also would this be any better? http://tunertoys.zoovy.com/product/HPBC/TurboXS_High_Performance_Boost_Controller.html or is it simply used for higher boost increases without having to modify the wastegate itself?

[Lukezen27]

yep sounds right to me

Cool

Thanks Lyle


Since we are on the subject, can anyone explain why? I would like to know the mechanisms used in this type of controller.

also would this be any better? http://tunertoys.zoovy.com/product/HPBC/TurboXS_High_Performance_Boost_Controller.html or is it simply used for higher boost increases without having to modify the wastegate itself?

Not sue sorry man

[CRXer]

might be getting a little less gate creep luke for the harder hit,dont know about the lag..........

[Lukezen27]

might be getting a little less gate creep luke for the harder hit,dont know about the lag..........

Yeah its the lag that's a bit weird...

Still might be better for lunching as I get out of the gate with less power :)

Put your springs in for WED

[CRXer]

Yeah its the lag that's a bit weird...

Still might be better for lunching as I get out of the gate with less power :)

Put your springs in for WED

already in dude,then gotta change them back again for friday.problem is i got no preload on the springs so im not getting the full effect.

As for the lag it could be showing up some defficency in your exhaust now with the gate closed for longer & getting a bit of backpressure on the turbo,so taking longer to spool.........i know stuff all bout boost,just trying to put a bit of logic into it,i could be way off track.

[DLO01]

Hey Guys

I've just installed a Turbosmart manual boost controller.

I've got it set to about 9-10psi

Now since install the boost takes a bit longer to come on then hits harder when it dose.

Is this normal?

I think, because its a bleed type boost controller. To increase boost it actually bleeds off boost to trick the WG from opening. So the WG opens later and therfore increases boost depending on how much you bleed off. I think this bleeding off is delaying when boost comes on.

[Lukezen27]

I think, because its a bleed type boost controller. To increase boost it actually bleeds off boost to trick the WG from opening. So the WG opens later and therfore increases boost depending on how much you bleed off. I think this bleeding off is delaying when boost comes on.

yeah that sounds like it :)

[CRXer]

do u think it would bleed off that much deano,its only a small bleed isnt it,compared to whats going to the motor?

[STOCK]

Are you sure its taking longer?
Turbosmart ones are gated, so it should not start "bleeding" air until it reaches its set pressure level, hence should start boosting sooner.

[CRXer]

Is it gated luke? the bleed type can give a fair bit of gate creep as well.

[Lukezen27]

Are you sure its taking longer?
Turbosmart ones are gated, so it should not start "bleeding" air until it reaches its set pressure level, hence should start boosting sooner.
def seems like it


Is it gated luke? the bleed type can give a fair bit of gate creep as well.


Not sure what you mean Jason lol

[JasonGilholme]

GFB ftw ;)

[Lukezen27]

GFB ftw ;)

Don't even know what that means..

[STOCK]

GFB- Go fast bits

[DLO01]

GFB ftw ;)


Don't even know what that means..

As in:


GFB- Go fast bits

As in:

http://www.gfb.com.au/

:thumbsup:

[Lukezen27]

As in:



As in:

http://www.gfb.com.au/

:thumbsup:

IC but I still don't understand the point lol

Oh well

[DLO01]

It means that Jase is emotionally attached (as in he has feelings for) GFB products. :p

[JasonGilholme]

......ahhhh the memories. ;)

[Lukezen27]

It means that Jase is emotionally attached (as in he has feelings for) GFB products. :p


lol that's fun as hell

[CRXer]

the turbosmart is gated luke,i just looked it up,so it isnt the bleed type,it holds the wastegate from seeing any boost at all till what it is set too,better setup.

the bleed type can still give you a fair degree of wastegate creep.

[Lukezen27]

the turbosmart is gated luke,i just looked it up,so it isnt the bleed type,it holds the wastegate from seeing any boost at all till what it is set too,better setup.

the bleed type can still give you a fair degree of wastegate creep.

Yeah it bleed man

[CRXer]

Yeah it bleed man

im saying its NOT a bleed type,if its the one u show in the pic on the first post.

[Lukezen27]

im saying its NOT a bleed type,if its the one u show in the pic on the first post.

Well that one in the pic this one I have 100% Jason

[defect]

yeh i noticed this too
when I had a EBC in my car, the boost would come on earlier and hold boost all the way to redline.
when I came around to selling it, I removed the EBC and fitted a t-piece type boost controller. I noticed boost came on slightly later and didnt hold boost as great compared to the EBC

[Limbo]

so luke you got the eboost in yet?
I haven't seen anything in mine but then i had the eboost in straight away.
I just gotta get it remounted.
P.S if you need mounting kits i brought about 4-5 of them cos i was trying out different setups ;)

[RICER23Q]

t-pieces are shit... get a ebc...

[Lukezen27]

t-pieces are shit... get a ebc...

Just a temp fix till I get back from OS

Was just siting round doing nothing anyway..

helped a bit

[CRXer]

had a quick look at smanager on the S300 last night luke & it does allow for a switch operated high/low boost setting,which can be set up individually per gear as well.

[Lukezen27]

had a quick look at smanager on the S300 last night luke & it does allow for a switch operated high/low boost setting,which can be set up individually per gear as well.

sick!

That would be shit hot on my setup :)

[DLO01]

had a quick look at smanager on the S300 last night luke & it does allow for a switch operated high/low boost setting,which can be set up individually per gear as well.

Yep, thats right. Boost per gear. :thumbsup:

[Limbo]

eboost 2 also has that function luke, just haven't used it yet....

[Lukezen27]

eboost 2 also has that function luke, just haven't used it yet....

Not got mine yet man to busy saving for Thailand lol

I leave tomorrow :thumbsup:

[Limbo]

cool, if you drop by the US buy me an OBX lsd while your there!
p.s i'm serious

[Lukezen27]

cool, if you drop by the US buy me an OBX lsd while your there!
p.s i'm serious

lol just to Thailand man

double there would be any cars parts I can get there :p

[defect]

i noticed in thailand, everyone had mad mufflers and cannons.
get 1. one of the doot doot drivers said they were cheap.
get a spoon replica and some fake brembo caliper covers for your car. lol