B18C-R in a Del Sol

[trentski]

Hi guys i have just stumbled on a dc2 type R engine. i have to act on it fast so it dont sell on me. my question is will this fit in to my del sol fairly easily like is it almost a straight fit being both b series engines and secondly will this fit up to my original gear box or will i need to find one that suits the dc2 engine. cheers for any help guys.

[OMG.JAI xD]

i think the b16 n b18c is the same block.
just the b18c has a longer stroke and different head.

i cant see why your gbox cant bolt on.
but it would be worth you money if you got a dc2r box too.
seeing as its a close gear ratio box.
gots no experience with b series. :/ just my thoughts.

[hisoka]

you need a dc2 gear box~costs about 1200

EDIT:what engine you got now ?

[tRipitaka]

u might have issues with clearing the rocker cover with your bonnet

[trentski]

you need a dc2 gear box~costs about 1200

EDIT:what engine you got now ?

i got a B16A vtec engine in it currently

[Edgeauto]

All will fit, the type R box would be better but not a necessity

[hisoka]

yer. your gear box will fit. go get a type R gear box later if you want. its close ratio and some have LSD. as said before not a necessity.

[trentski]

cheers for the info guys, i am 98 percent sure i will get it.

[hisoka]

how did you establish that you were 2 percent unsure . why not 3 percent

[blahZ]

all will fit

[vinnY]

go for it mate
you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner :p

[NightKids]

how did you establish that you were 2 percent unsure . why not 3 percent

Yes, please clarify...

[JasonGilholme]

it will bolt straight up to any gear you currently have.

Use your B16 gear box and buy a turbo kit while you're at it. You'll have a weapon then. ;)

[hisoka]

jasongilholme is on d ballzor. sounds so serious lol id hate to pull up to you at the lights

[JasonGilholme]

jasongilholme is on d ballzor. sounds so serious lol id hate to pull up to you at the lights

lol no baller here mate. Just a guy that wants bang for buck and prefers DIY.

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

if he's staying NA then b18CR gear box defiantely. if he wants boost then b16 box would be better.

[trentski]

is there much difference to the b18cr box and my b16a box?

[JasonGilholme]

the ratios and the possibility of the LSD. both are hydro and fit to the b series block.

i think the clutch/flywheel might be stronger on the b18cr but i wouldn't be 100% sure.

b18c ratios are shorter then the b16a.

[trentski]

well guys i did it i won the bid have a look at the link below and tell me what you think

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=190240502109

[vinnY]

not bad i guess
not much you can tell looking at a photo though

hope it's in as good condition as the seller states it to be

[hisoka]

wont come across many cheaper than that

[trentski]

i asked the seller if it was in great condition and he assured me it was and he is getting a mate to custom build a crate to house it when it gets freighted to me so it will be protected further.

[hisoka]

does he have anymore lol

[Zdster]

I hope they have done some sort of leak down test or have a start up warranty or something :s. Goodluck with it all though

[JasonGilholme]

says they did a compression test with no more then 5% variance between cylinders. Doesn't state the PSI though.

[Zdster]

says they did a compression test with no more then 5% variance between cylinders. Doesn't state the PSI though.

Oh, your right. Missed that :zip:, but as you said it doesnt exactly give you faith when they are not posting pressures.

[JasonGilholme]

Oh, your right. Missed that :zip:, but as you said it doesnt exactly give you faith when they are not posting pressures.

exactly.

i'm sure the engine will work. might be down on power slightly but you should be able to tell the difference over a b16a.

If all else fails....turbo it :thumbsup: :p

[trentski]

its only done 60k, i doubt it will be under normal power.

[Zdster]

its only done 60k, i doubt it will be under normal power.

I hope for your sake you are right. While the number of km's is always an issue, it is about how the engine has been treated rather than how far it has traveled.

[trentski]

true but as for being driven hard well there designed to do that especially type R stuff, its just like buying a second hand car i guess.

[trentski]

i have stumbled apon a small problem, i got the engine number but i cant get honda australia to trace it for a vin number (cause its a jap engine) in order to get parts. how do i go about figuring out what this engine's vin number is. i will give it to you guys so u can maybe do something with it. B18C1902671

cheers for any help guys.

[JasonGilholme]

what parts are you after?? Are they for the engine or for the vehicle.

Obviously the engine has its own number and the vehicle it was originally installed in has its own VIN number. the engine does have a VIN number (VIN = VEHICLE identification number)

also, if you don't have any paperwork with the engine, good luck tryin to register it.

[90LAN]

u will need the the aussie dc2r vin no for parts
parts are readily available anyway so dont stress

[vinnY]

thought b18c1 was gsr? or am i mistaken?

[90LAN]

JDM b18C type r motors only have B18CXXXXXX

[vinnY]

oh right, just skimmed the engine number and saw b18c1, nevermind me :p

[trentski]

thought b18c1 was gsr? or am i mistaken?

i think you are right judging by this thread

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_B_engine


help me here guys did i buy a gsr motor look that way to me

i rang the guy and told him i think its a gsr motor and he is going to double check the engine number tomorrow, what do u think it is by the number i gave you, gsr seems to fit. But aslo keep in mind mine has the red top. does the gsr have the red top also. i am confused HELP ME PLEASE i need this sorted as i will have to get my money back

REMEMBER ITS A JAP MOTOR, SO THEY GOT MORE VARIATION THERE

[90LAN]

post a pic and u will be answered

[Edgeauto]

the motor pictured on the ebay auction is definatley an ITR motor

[EKVTIR-T]

If the pic on ebay is the actual motor then its a type R :)

[Edgeauto]

plus honda engine numbers are the engine type followed by 7 numbers so as 90LAN said it would be B18C-1902671

[vinnY]

yeah my mistake, you posted it in one whole lot and i just skimmed :) should be an r motor dude
look at the intake manifold, single runner :)

[trentski]

thanks guys for helping me out so quickly, this is a good car club to be part of you all know your stuff, i did just recieve a email from the seller, he physcially checked and sent me the following email clarifying that its definatelly a type r and the way its written matches the b series list i posted before

the email is as follows

Hi Trent,

I've just climbed up to confirm the engine number is correct, except it's spelled out on two lines as:

B18C
1902671

From non-type R Honda B series engine we've had through before such as B16 we've seen spelt out as:

B16A4
1100129

I hope that clears it up for you. In any case I'm sure your friend at Honda can verify it in the daytime. I'll speak to you soon.

Kind Regards,

Jeremy Levartovsky

[trentski]

oh i am excited this engine runs 150kw thats heaps more power than the aussy delivered b18c7 which is 141. gee this thing is a incrediable motor and it is matched up to a lsd transmission in the tegs so will be interesting on my crx box lol.

[ZeForce]

B16a gearbox has nice close gear ratios, just buy an aftermarket LSD and lower final drive to install into your B16a gearbox when you do the conversion.

[T-onedc2]

oh i am excited this engine runs 150kw thats heaps more power than the aussy delivered b18c7 which is 141. gee this thing is a incrediable motor and it is matched up to a lsd transmission in the tegs so will be interesting on my crx box lol.
Hey Trent the JDM power figure is 147kw on 100 RON fuel, our 98 RON won't be too far off though. By the way is it '96 or '98 spec?

Hope it all works out for you!

[trentski]

Hey Trent the JDM power figure is 147kw on 100 RON fuel, our 98 RON won't be too far off though. By the way is it '96 or '98 spec?

Hope it all works out for you!

ok 147 is it i was going from the wikopedia search i found on the net saying 150 oh well still a lot more powerful that the b16a. as for 96 0r 98 spec i am not sure, is there anyway i can tell from the motor? it arrives next thursday.

[T-onedc2]

According to Best Motoring "Type R Legend", based on appearance, your engine has the silver spark plug cover making it '96. '98 spec has carbon cover. Basically without the gearbox attached there's no real difference so still damn good.

[trentski]

B16a gearbox has nice close gear ratios, just buy an aftermarket LSD and lower final drive to install into your B16a gearbox when you do the conversion.

Thanks for the info mate, i will look in to that. Do you know where i could get that stuff?

[ZeForce]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-4-928-Final-Drive-Gear-94-01-Acura-Integra-GSR-B18C_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713Q2em153Q2el126 2QQcategoryZ33731QQihZ022QQitemZ350086004865QQtcZp hoto

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-JDM-Helical-LSD-94-01-Acura-Integra-GSR-GS-R-Type-R_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713Q2em153Q2el1262QQ categoryZ33731QQihZ024QQitemZ370074922214

Both of these will fit your gearbox, however if you keep the standard B16a final drive then you will need to get the LSD below

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-Helical-LSD-90-93-94-01-Acura-Integra-GS-LS-RS-SE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1713Q2em153Q2el1262Q QcategoryZ33731QQihZ022QQitemZ350086620370

[trentski]

thanks very much zeforce, i will have to save up some cash and get those items

[trentski]

what radiator does the type r teg run with. is it a little one like what i got in my crx, if its not will my little one run my b18c safely

[ZeForce]

what radiator does the type r teg run with. is it a little one like what i got in my crx, if its not will my little one run my b18c safely

Im using the stock half size radiator for my B20VTEC and havent had any cooling issues. However, I do plan to upgrade mine to a full size one in the future just to be safe.

[Edgeauto]

Your standard radiator will work fine :)

[trentski]

ok cool thanks, thats one less thing i need to worry about.

[trentski]

guys just a quick question, my engine has arrived i mounted it on a engine stand and sealed all the openings with tape. the thing is i am now moving to melbourne, a job i applied for finally came through so my question to you is this, what is the best way to store my new engine? cause i am moving i am storing it in my dads carport. i was told to wrap it up and thats all that is needed so i got that glad wrap type stuff from my dad company they use it to wrap stuff so i used a whole roll on the engine so its totally sealed from dust ect, and being in a carport is this all i need to do? i was just wondering with it sitting around would the cylinder bores go funny.

[hisoka]

lol trust me your engine has already been sitting around for a long time if its a jdm b18c lol. glad wrap is all good and some tape.

just to give you an idea
http://got-jdm.com/images/b16a_shop.jpg

[trentski]

fark there are a lot of VTEC engines lol

[hisoka]

so yer dont be over concerned ~its been hanging out for a while already lol. note: see how much glad wrap and tape they use LOL

[BlitZ]

lol trust me your engine has already been sitting around for a long time if its a jdm b18c lol. glad wrap is all good and some tape.

just to give you an idea
http://got-jdm.com/images/b16a_shop.jpg

the question is... how mnay are modified

[hisoka]

the bottom left corner one lol~modified spark leads lawl.

[trentski]

and notice there are no type R ones lol all basic vtec ones. they must have a special spot for the red topped type R ones lol.

[vinnY]

well the image file name is 'b16a_shop.jpg'

[T-onedc2]

the bottom left corner one lol~modified spark leads lawl.
and to it's right is an H22

[czy_sol87]

if ur leaving it in a carport i would wrap it up, last thing u want is for the engine to start rusting up

a garage and carport are different, garage is sealed from outside conditions ie rain, carports will let the rain in and might damage the engine

[JasonGilholme]

seel it up as best you can, put some oil in it and teach someone how to turn it over every now and then by hand.

[trentski]

i sealed it up really good and had it in my carport sealed from the elements but the roller door lock is farked so i stored it inside in the spare room lol on the engine stand lol cant get much better than that, just doing that till i leave then i will put it in my dads carport