B16A or B18C?

[Civic_G]

Hi Boyz & Galz,
Well, currently i'm considering an engine conversion on my 96 VTI honda civic (D16y) since my damm tranny given up the ghost. I have being quoted $3000 for a gear box rebuild and clutch from a honda dealer while around the $1500 from a gearbox specialist workshop. But after talking to a few mates, an engine conversion is the way 2 go, seeing that you can pick up a B16A for the 2k mark. Anyway, would it be a worthwhile conversion, or should i go for the B18C (typeR) which i herard is around the 5K mark...Anyway i would like your opinions on the pros and cons of the engines, ease of conversion and most importantly the costs involved???
Cheers
Civic_G

[tinkerbell]

same basic swap details,

really just a price difference - which reflects the performance of each engine

IMO - you NEED to get a front cut, do not just buy a 'conversion package'

the cost of conversion could be between 2000 and 10000 depending whre you go and how good a job they do...

and yes - an engine conversion 'looks' like it could cost similar amounts, but definitley wont...

[McChook]

Yeah, as tinkerbell said, both are as hard/easy to convert in as each other - prices vary by a lot though.

But, conversions are not cheap - budget alteast $3000 for a good condition half cut B16a.... installation costs depend on how good you and your mate sare - However, if you are going to do it, make sure you do it properly - done right it will save you thousands compared to if you stuff one thing up - it could be never ending

[panda[cRx]]

swaps are expensive man.....doin b18c now
watch out, major wallet drainer^^

[Terry]

I suggest u dont do it mate, everyone did a engine swap they all end up spending big......the fact it cheaper to sell yours and get a Vti-r.......engine swap is costly but again and again people dont listen to it.....

[Civic_G]

Well from wot i hearing, an engine conversions is gonna cost an arm and a leg.. the only reason i considered doin an engine transplant was that I for the price was was goin 2 get my gearbox rebuilded i might as well spent that money on a front cut B16A...so you guys don't recommend doin it???

[VTEChnique]

hahah well I recommend doin it - you need $4-5,000 to complete a B16A swap..

BUT I mean what happens if you get A B16A front-cut or do the swap to find that the B-series Gearbox needs a re-build.. THEN you are in deep doo-doo.

so basically IMO, if you can afford the cash, do it !!

[KB]

Or even if you can't afford it! Do It!!

ay Bede?

[LatinoHatchCrap]

drive an EG with a b18c/b16a and you'll see why theres a reason to do it.

But just plan ahead and make sure you get your stuff from a legit supplier just in case something doesnt work then you can return it.

[vtc]

Well think about the other costs too.. insurance, mod plates and especially MODICATIONS!! who the hell is gonna be happy with a stock motor! haha theres no stopping.. set yourself some goals first.. how fast? what you want and how much you want to pay.. that should help you.
Vic

[LatinoHatchCrap]

I suggest u dont do it mate, everyone did a engine swap they all end up spending big......the fact it cheaper to sell yours and get a Vti-r.......engine swap is costly but again and again people dont listen to it.....

You shouldnt generalise mate. I got my swap/installation and my bottom end rebuilt for a decent price (much less than 10K). If someone ends up spending big is because they:

1. didnt plan ahead or
2. got ripped off or
3. didnt plan ahead and got ripped off :thumbdwn: