Looking to buy dc5s. Common problems please

[b18c7dc2]

Hi guys. I'm looking to buy a dc5s. I've test driven two, and it was great. I have yet to experiance the gearing probloms that I have read so much about.

Can u guys please tell me what to look for, is the gearing change problem that much of an issue (eg. shift into 3rd, or pop out or something?)

There is slight vibration to through the accelerator pedals too when i get into vtec land.

And the exhuast manifold heat sheild is very noisy and vibrates when car is reved. ( i put my hand over the heat sheild and sound goes away when car is revved.)

Please let me know any other common problems or comment on the stuff i have observed. Thanks. looking to get one faily soon!!!! =)

[Zakarados]

I got my type S not long ago, and i experienced everything you have. The pedal shake seems to be normal throughout the type S range. With that heat shield sound, do up the 2 bolts harder and pull it up a little where it makes contact and it wont touch again.

The gearing issue for me atm isn't too bad, second gear grind is just annoying but the 3rd gear issues i experience once every few weeks or so.

happy hunting.

[b18c7dc2]

I got my type S not long ago, and i experienced everything you have. The pedal shake seems to be normal throughout the type S range. With that heat shield sound, do up the 2 bolts harder and pull it up a little where it makes contact and it wont touch again.

The gearing issue for me atm isn't too bad, second gear grind is just annoying but the 3rd gear issues i experience once every few weeks or so.

happy hunting.

Thanks mate. Good to know i'm not the only one. After ur parchase, are u happy with it? considering all these things. Did u know about them fro the start, and would you have changed ur decision?

[b18c7dc2]

I got my type S not long ago, and i experienced everything you have. The pedal shake seems to be normal throughout the type S range. With that heat shield sound, do up the 2 bolts harder and pull it up a little where it makes contact and it wont touch again.

The gearing issue for me atm isn't too bad, second gear grind is just annoying but the 3rd gear issues i experience once every few weeks or so.

happy hunting.

Does it only happen when the engine is cold? or all the time?

[Zakarados]

The second gear grind happens any time and the 3rd gear fault happens once in a blue moon cold or warm.

I kinda knew these faults when i got the car but i noticed the second gear crunch happen more and more often, it seems to be OK now, but if it gets worse ill just bring it to honda. I also bought extended warranty on the car which was a good thin, had to take it back last week for a suspension issue i was having, fixed under warranty.

very happy with the purchase. price was a bit high but km were very low and car in mint condititon.

[b18c7dc2]

The second gear grind happens any time and the 3rd gear fault happens once in a blue moon cold or warm.

I kinda knew these faults when i got the car but i noticed the second gear crunch happen more and more often, it seems to be OK now, but if it gets worse ill just bring it to honda. I also bought extended warranty on the car which was a good thin, had to take it back last week for a suspension issue i was having, fixed under warranty.

very happy with the purchase. price was a bit high but km were very low and car in mint condititon.

That 2nd gear grind sounds annoying. I didn't experiance that in anytime when I test drove the integra tyupe S's. But i imagine if it were my car, and everytime when went to change gears into 2nd, and I had the clutch fully down, and it grinds, i would get really annoyed.

What heppends when this happens?, do you just slip it out into neutral, fully press the clutch and try to put it into 2nd again and hope it doesnt grind? how ofter do you have to try and put it in 2nd when it does grind? or do you just force it in? I know i wouldn't force it in.

[Zakarados]

it goes in fine, where is no issue with shifting.. it just has a gritty feeling sometimes. Goes into gear fine with no issues. I have let a few people drive it and they say they dont notice it, maybe im just beeing too picky. But it does happen.

[idunlie]

i got a type s and i'm happy with it.

never had 2nd gear grinding issues and with the 3rd gear it does. i hardly get 3rd gear crunch though. as zakarados says, it happens once in a blue moon.

when i get the crunch i just push it back into neutral (never had it happen twice in a row).

a problem that i've recently encountered was that my headlight and rear taillight have gotten fogged up. must have water leak somewhere? - i don't know if this is a common problem, but it has happened to me.

[b18c7dc2]

i got a type s and i'm happy with it.

never had 2nd gear grinding issues and with the 3rd gear it does. i hardly get 3rd gear crunch though. as zakarados says, it happens once in a blue moon.

when i get the crunch i just push it back into neutral (never had it happen twice in a row).

a problem that i've recently encountered was that my headlight and rear taillight have gotten fogged up. must have water leak somewhere? - i don't know if this is a common problem, but it has happened to me.


Well i'm happy to hear that it only happens once in a blue moon. Cause I wouldnt be able to handle it if it happened all the time.

[Zakarados]

O Yeah, fogging of the rear tail lights is fairly common in the wet seasons. Honda warranty will cover the replacement.

[idunlie]

O Yeah, fogging of the rear tail lights is fairly common in the wet seasons. Honda warranty will cover the replacement.

yeah, i thought warranty would cover it too. however, my warranty expired on aug 08 (yes, very recently) and therefore they said they have no obligation to replace it.

i have an extended warranty through to 2010, but they said it only covers up to $1000 of engine damage and no cosmetic faults.

are they lying to me or is it just my badluck?

[Zakarados]

wow wdf! i just updated my warranty another 2 years as well, i would hope it would cover everything for another 2 years. do you still have the extended warranty paperwork have a read through it, im at work now so i cant check my paperwork. Keep me up to date if you find out, thats BS if they only cover engine faults.

[Hullabaloo]

I've never had a 2nd gear crunch. 3rd gear is a little notchy sometimes and i have had a crunch or two before, but I think i may have been a bit quick in releasing the clutch when the gear wasn't all the way in (due to notchyness).

i've had condensation in a rear taillight before, but the whole thing was replace under warranty.

[Zakarados]

Correct, i got my one replaced a month ago, took 1 hour or so to do, and 24hour wait to get parts from melb.

perfect replacement, and no more mist in the lights.

[idunlie]

wow wdf! i just updated my warranty another 2 years as well, i would hope it would cover everything for another 2 years. do you still have the extended warranty paperwork have a read through it, im at work now so i cant check my paperwork. Keep me up to date if you find out, thats BS if they only cover engine faults.

i can't see anywhere on the paperwork that it is only up to $1000 of engine damage.

it says that it covers engine, transmission, suspension/steering, brake system, fuel system, cooling system, genuine honda air con, electrical, electronic control units.

i guess the dude was correct about not replacing cosmetics. however, they have agreed to take a look at my car to assess the fault and send a report to honda australia to see if they want to fix it out of good will.

[b18c7dc2]

I've never had a 2nd gear crunch. 3rd gear is a little notchy sometimes and i have had a crunch or two before, but I think i may have been a bit quick in releasing the clutch when the gear wasn't all the way in (due to notchyness).

i've had condensation in a rear taillight before, but the whole thing was replace under warranty.


Good to hear that you dont experiance any gearing problems at all. Ur one of the lucky ones i guess, And I HOPE I WILL BE TOO hehehe, if I decide to get this car. Yeah, sometimes i crunch gear too by accident

When you say Notchy, what do u mean by that? can u please explain. Thanks

[idunlie]

yeah i think hullabaloo is correct about the notchiness of 3rd gear at times.

sometimes when you shift from 2nd > 3rd you feel that the gear stick just isnt in yet. you have to push it and you feel like you are pushing it against something until it finally shoves into the gear.

just don't release the clutch until you are sure it is in the gear (most of the time you will realise it isn't in the gear - it's pretty obvious).

[b18c7dc2]

yeah i think hullabaloo is correct about the notchiness of 3rd gear at times.

sometimes when you shift from 2nd > 3rd you feel that the gear stick just isnt in yet. you have to push it and you feel like you are pushing it against something until it finally shoves into the gear.

just don't release the clutch until you are sure it is in the gear (most of the time you will realise it isn't in the gear - it's pretty obvious).

Ohh yes. I know what u guys are talking about. I happens in any car though right? You just have to find the slot, and not force it in but slowley push the gear in. I think this problem can be sometimes exagerated by poor drivers. Do you guys agree with me?

[idunlie]

Ohh yes. I know what u guys are talking about. I happens in any car though right? You just have to find the slot, and not force it in but slowley push the gear in. I think this problem can be sometimes exagerated by poor drivers. Do you guys agree with me?

i wouldn't know if it happens to any other cars since this was the first manual car i've driven daily.

ill expand further on my experience with the notchiness/crunch and you can see if it is similar to what you have experienced.

when shifting from 2nd > 3rd you actually get half into 3rd gear. however, you feel as though something is blocking your way into the gear completely.

i agree with you that sometimes when i get the 3rd gear crunch it was because i was lazy with the clutch or i don't ensure that i'm in gear.

[b18c7dc2]

i wouldn't know if it happens to any other cars since this was the first manual car i've driven daily.

ill expand further on my experience with the notchiness/crunch and you can see if it is similar to what you have experienced.

when shifting from 2nd > 3rd you actually get half into 3rd gear. however, you feel as though something is blocking your way into the gear completely.

i agree with you that sometimes when i get the 3rd gear crunch it was because i was lazy with the clutch or i don't ensure that i'm in gear.

All this comotion all seems to only be happening around 3rd gear hey. Yeah i agree with ur comments. Maybe ur forcing it from straight into 2nd to 3rd. Normal i tap it in neutral a little then slot it in 3rd, all in one motion. I don't try and slop it straight in 3rd, because as with every car i suppose, it will cause notchyness.

[idunlie]

yeah you may be right about that, it also has to do with my driving when it crunches.

i can't think of any other common problems for type s.

on another note, i went to honda today to check my lights and they apologized and told me they didnt know i had honda extended warranty and thought i had the dealer warranty or something.

:) they going to fix my lights under warranty!

[b18c7dc2]

yeah you may be right about that, it also has to do with my driving when it crunches.

i can't think of any other common problems for type s.

on another note, i went to honda today to check my lights and they apologized and told me they didnt know i had honda extended warranty and thought i had the dealer warranty or something.

:) they going to fix my lights under warranty!

Nice one. Hope mine doest fog up, or ill just change mine to US model, without all the circles filled in Red. hehe. I'm getting a blue one, but really wanted at grey or a white one. Ahh well. I guess when ur buying a 2nd hand car, u cant really choose the colour.

What colour is urs?

[idunlie]

Nice one. Hope mine doest fog up, or ill just change mine to US model, without all the circles filled in Red. hehe. I'm getting a blue one, but really wanted at grey or a white one. Ahh well. I guess when ur buying a 2nd hand car, u cant really choose the colour.

What colour is urs?

haha, you like the US model rear lights?

the aus model is 2 white 1 red and the us model is 1 white 2 red. - am i correct?

my car is white. when i was looking i was choosing between white, black and blue.

you already bought your car? how is it?

[b18c7dc2]

haha, you like the US model rear lights?

the aus model is 2 white 1 red and the us model is 1 white 2 red. - am i correct?

my car is white. when i was looking i was choosing between white, black and blue.

you already bought your car? how is it?

Nahh havn't bought it yet. very close to though. Mite be picking it up in less than 2 weeks!

[Riviera_TypeS]

Yeah I also had this problem before as well.

Didn't notice it when did the test drive which was a bugger. Noticed only in the past couple of months of heavy use.

Practically what happen is when you shift from 1st to 2nd you feel there's something along the way and it won't click into place. From 2nd to 3rd, same problem, sometimes a little more resistance. I had a couple of grinding because of this issue.

It becomes hazardous when around the corner, gear won't click into say 3rd so I put it back to neutral then re-try 3rd, which more often that not, works just fine. Sometimes, I release the clutch and re-floor it, which again works. But these pull your focus off from the road and can be dangerous at times.

Since my warranty ran out beginning of this year I had no choice but to put up with it. I don't want to crank up couple of grands to fix it unless it's a total mess.

Last month I found something interesting. When you shift from 1st to 2nd, instead of simply pulling the gear stick down (common), try to push it to the left at the same time. So the shifting action is down left, like you're about to shift diagonally to the bottom left. It works like a charm for me! I can feel gear clicks into place nicely. For some reason, when you do this, 2nd to 3rd feels smoother than before. What I do is to wait 1 seconds after flooring clutch before trying to engage 3rd, then you shift. Again for me it works!

Sounds like a total common sense but it solves my 2nd and 3rd gears issue so far. No more grinding and 99% of the time, gears lock into place just fine.

[b18c7dc2]

yeah you may be right about that, it also has to do with my driving when it crunches.

i can't think of any other common problems for type s.

on another note, i went to honda today to check my lights and they apologized and told me they didnt know i had honda extended warranty and thought i had the dealer warranty or something.

:) they going to fix my lights under warranty!

The dc5s i'm going to get has fogged up rear light too. When i buy the car i will have like 2 weeks before the warrenty expires. Should i get them to check the WHOLE CAR????????? and replace these lights as well o course.

[Hullabaloo]

get them to fix the car before you buy it.

[illuzi0nz]

either i havent noticed it, or i dont get the gearing problems ...

[idunlie]

The dc5s i'm going to get has fogged up rear light too. When i buy the car i will have like 2 weeks before the warrenty expires. Should i get them to check the WHOLE CAR????????? and replace these lights as well o course.

do you believe the car has any problems during test drives (interior, exterior, engine)?

check his log books to see if he has serviced his car regularly?

does he look like he would have pushed the car over its limits? - if he does, you should get the car checked thoroughly before purchase (vehicle history, full car checkup)

the way i see it, when i bought my car i didn't think anything was wrong with the car. i just thought that nothing could be significantly wrong when i still had warranty. i may have been naive though haha.

i think it would be wise for you to tell them to fix the rear taillights and any other issues with the car before you will purchase it. however, you may have to wait a little while longer until you get your car. (i say that because my car is waiting to get the real taillight and front headlight fixed but it has taken over a week and still no call from honda to tell me they have the parts instock)

just assess the car and choose the best option to take (my car has a fogged taillight but everything else runs fine). don't be too rash about your decision. better safe than sorry :)

[mrntegra]

dude,

i've had my type S since the start of feb.. Gearbox occassionally makes a crunch etc.. but only when cold so i make sure im really particular when changing gears. My tail lights used to fog up cause it had water in it. I pulled the tail light out got all water out, blow dryed it to make sure it was dry and sealed along edges with silicon. neva fogged up again. There are a few problems with the S as there was with the R. I brought mine of a 50year old lady!!! with full service history and still managed to hav problems.

cheers

[Zakarados]

If the car still has 2 weeks warranty left, either get the owner to take it to a honda dealer to get fixed up ASAP or buy it and take it to them on time.

I would advise you to take the car to a mechanic to get it looked out and do compression tests ETC. I took my car to TODA and they advised car was in perfect condition. Also Adrian from TODA owns a DC5S so it was a bonus as he will know what to look for. Costed me next to nothing and gave me peace of mind.

If you want you can also goto honda and extend the warranty by another 2 years for around 900 bux. Also another good thing for peace of mind.

[b18c7dc2]

Woohoo!. Thanks guys. The guy went and took his car to honda, and he said they are getting the rear tail lights replaced under warrenty. Should i take my car to honda, and let them test the whole car and see what else i can get done for free before my warrenty runs out when i get it????????????

[Zakarados]

I don't think they will do a TEST on everything for you, they normally expect you to know the fault and tell them to fix it. I'm not sure if they provide that service, you may need to go to a 3rd party mechanic to take a look at it and tell you if everything is in order.

[b18c7dc2]

I don't think they will do a TEST on everything for you, they normally expect you to know the fault and tell them to fix it. I'm not sure if they provide that service, you may need to go to a 3rd party mechanic to take a look at it and tell you if everything is in order.

Yeah, i guess ur right. THey are like tight asses, and to get something out of them mite be abit tricky hey.

Well are things should i try and get out of them more?? what issues on others ones have there been? Should i get them to replace my leather seats because of a little wear n tear on the drivers side bolster? HAHAHA

[Euro08Jaz]

hey im considering selling my late 07 euro with navi for a type s? do you think its worth it?

[mrntegra]

hey im considering selling my late 07 euro with navi for a type s? do you think its worth it?


depends on what u want the car for mate! My old lady has an 04 euro, and i had it for a few weeks its lovely to drive - comfort/quiet/4 doors. But then i got back into my type S and it just handles so well and i can hear vtec etc.. I wouldnt have any other car than my S..

[Euro08Jaz]

yea im kinda regretting the euro i mean im 20 no family but i have a family car, no doubt it is comfortable and handles and drives great for what it is, shame i cant by the type s new.

[Riviera_TypeS]

yea im kinda regretting the euro i mean im 20 no family but i have a family car, no doubt it is comfortable and handles and drives great for what it is, shame i cant by the type s new.

Yeah I kno what you mean.

I have an '06 Civic and oh it's so quiet and comfy... but doesn't compare to handling and all-rounder ability of Type-S...

Pssttt.... I am selling mine btw:p

[b18c7dc2]

hey im considering selling my late 07 euro with navi for a type s? do you think its worth it?

What colour ur EURO? manual?

[Euro08Jaz]

mocha, 6 speed

[b18c7dc2]

mocha, 6 speed

Mocha?