Legal Tailights?

[GSi_PSi]

Hey i have bought these taillights and and just wondering if they are illegal. Like would you get defected for them??

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5293/integlightsnw3.jpg
http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sell/SSProfiles/60000168/Images/11/tlks-int942d-cf.jpg

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

Seem to be ok...

[Sexc86]

im quite sure you need a amber lense for indicators or a clear lense with a amber lamp.

[SHOGUNOVDDRK]

couldnt you diy them?

[Q_ball]

Yes is defectable!

[GSi_PSi]

if i used amber bulbs would it be okay?...

[geeang]

ANYthing non-standard is defectable.

[7h4n9]

YES it is defectable. it doesnt matter what colour the lense or the tail light is as long as the indictor flashes amber then its ok.

Best bet is to get green bulbs or diy ur own with green glass paint, making it flash amber.

[GSi_PSi]

thanks for the advice 7h4n9! will do...

[Ashwee]

Taillights also have to have a reflector on them to be legal, which they appear to have. Once the indicators are fixed up they should be more than fine.

[IZY-10]

ricer police might pick on you lol. Dont get them they wont suit your car imo.

[Q_ball]

Doesnt really matter lads... end of the day, theyre altezzas, and the cops will target this.
It really depends on how fortunate or unfortunate you are.

[GSi_PSi]

alrite pplz ive just recieved the tailights....so uze rekon i put green bulbs make it flash amber....were can i get green bulbs from?...supercheap auto??

[GSi_PSi]

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8069/dsc08345mq9.jpg

[VTECMACHINE]

ANYthing non-standard is defectable.

Snap!

OMG... I just spontaniously vomited. Oh wait, i'm in this thread.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/swyndhurst/oh-no-its-sick.jpg

Type R badge on a GSi?

[Nax]

love those lamps man, way better then the stockies.

can get bulbs from heaps of places, ebay is always my first choice but u could try a couple diff auto stores

[45SET]

Why would you go and buy the tail lights... THEN question there legality?

[Nax]

because they look awsome?

jesus christ theres alot of know it all people in here. lay off him. he bought them, discovered a problem, now wants help with a solution, not smart ass remarks by people who negatize every situation in the hopes someone they dont know will toss an L O L there way

[VTECACCORD]

If it's defectable could you be sued if you were rear ended ? Negligence ?

I'm sure theres a lawyer out there that could rape u for it.

[Q_ball]

Why would you go and buy the tail lights... THEN question there legality?


because they look awsome?

jesus christ theres alot of know it all people in here. lay off him. he bought them, discovered a problem, now wants help with a solution, not smart ass remarks by people who negatize every situation in the hopes someone they dont know will toss an L O L there way
Not smart ass at all imo.
It comes down to common sense.

If the OP really cared about a part's legality etc... then he/she shouldve asked prior purchasing.
The fact that they did it the other way around implies that they've got the same train of thought as yourself Nax... a "so what, they look awesome" mentality.

If it's defectable could you be sued if you were rear ended ? Negligence ?

I'm sure theres a lawyer out there that could rape u for it.
Quite true VTECACCORD.
It has happened in the past :)

[Nax]

wat difference does it make wat order he does it in aslong as he fixes it?

so lets recap, buy first then fix=noob
ask first, then buy, then fix=pro-cool ftw!



ive never heard of anyone buying a part then finding out it doesnt fit/work properly and then fixing it that sheet is just madwack! -_-

and it is smartass, why would u just reem on someone for it when hes trying to rectify it and asking for help where to find the parts, just shits me off when people post in threads with nothing to say on topic and just blast people

[Q_ball]

The difference is that the OP could ultimately save himself an unecessary buy.
The difference is that once the OP learns that the part is illegal and still chooses to purchase and fit them, they have no one esle to blame for defects but themselves.
The difference is that the old mentality of "think before you speak/act" is indeed the best way to mod your car - it saves you time and money proven on many occassions.

Its not about being cool or a noob.
You're jst simply opening yourself up to being flamed by other members.

[Nax]

i dont see it as an unecessary buy at all. lights arent legal, so he buys a 3 dollar globe and makes them legal and now has nice looking lights instead of stocks.

the question isnt about defection or him having to replace the part, its about wanting to know where he can buy a globe.

[Q_ball]

i dont see it as an unecessary buy at all. lights arent legal, so he buys a 3 dollar globe and makes them legal and now has nice looking lights instead of stocks.

the question isnt about defection or him having to replace the part, its about wanting to know where he can buy a globe.

You've obviously read this thread thoroughly i see...
Taken from the first post;


Hey i have bought these taillights and and just wondering if they are illegal. Like would you get defected for them??

Mate, you obviously dont have a clue when it comes to common sense.
It just so happens that this is a simple "fix".
The mentality taken to mod ur engine for instance, should still be applied when buying a set of tail lights.

If you still fail to see the logic in that, then i have no further words for you.

[45SET]

wat difference does it make wat order he does it in aslong as he fixes it?

so lets recap, buy first then fix=noob
ask first, then buy, then fix=pro-cool ftw!


Same as if he went out and bought, for example, new rims which measured 18x10 with 0ET (something you would find on a 180sx, Silvia or Skyline). They aren't going to fit... but going by what you've said, they look sweet, SO buy the hektic rimz.

The above probably isn't the best example, but there has been a few times in the past where something simular has come up (maybe not so extreme). I'm not sure abotu you, but I INVESTIGATE something I'm going to buy before I buy it (and i'm sure alot of other people do aswel). Wasting money isn't something I like doing.

[Nax]

You've obviously read this thread thoroughly i see...
Taken from the first post;



Mate, you obviously dont have a clue when it comes to common sense.
It just so happens that this is a simple "fix".
The mentality taken to mod ur engine for instance, should still be applied when buying a set of tail lights.

If you still fail to see the logic in that, then i have no further words for you.


first post, he now knows they are illegal, hence why hes asking for a globe.

i see the logic, i just see still going on about it as moot for no other reason then to have fun flaming someone for a mistake. he understands it was stupid, now hes fixing it, lesson learned.

im just saying there are alot of supremist ****s on this site who need to step back and remember what it was like when they first got into modding and didnt know jack shit about cars.

[VTECMACHINE]

If it's defectable could you be sued if you were rear ended ? Negligence ?

I'm sure theres a lawyer out there that could rape u for it.

Yes happened to my Dad actually. haha.

He rear ended someone in the wet (It was actually his fault, haha). Took a pic of the habib lights on the Civic infront of him which he hit. Showed insurance and police. Blame was shifted immediately onto the Civic, and he had to pay.

[VTECACCORD]

Tail lights are something you don't mess with, unless it's adding additional brake lights which I see as improving safety.

Why on earth would you replace properly engineered tail lights designed by Honda with something designed purely for aesthetic reasons.

If you can't see the safety issue here then you deserve whatever comes ur way. Law suits and all that jazz

[Q_ball]

Tail lights are something you don't mess with, unless it's adding additional brake lights which I see as improving safety.

Why on earth would you replace properly engineered tail lights designed by Honda with something designed purely for aesthetic reasons.

If you can't see the safety issue here then you deserve whatever comes ur way. Law suits and all that jazz

Or a jazz with a fob mum driving ramming up ur ass LOL

[VTECMACHINE]

im just saying there are alot of supremist ****s on this site who need to step back and remember what it was like when they first got into modding and didnt know jack shit about cars.


Only problem with this is, that normal Noobs that start out modding actually listen to people. He blatently told everyone to shuttup, and didn't want to listen when we told him 50psi in his nankangs is way too much, unsafe... and is definately contributing to his weird tyre wear. I will assume he will continue to use 50 psi, and rape his new tyres aswell.

[Nax]

Only problem with this is, that normal Noobs that start out modding actually listen to people. He blatently told everyone to shuttup, and didn't want to listen when we told him 50psi in his nankangs is way too much, unsafe... and is definately contributing to his weird tyre wear. I will assume he will continue to use 50 psi, and rape his new tyres aswell.

lol touche on the psi, but im just talking about the globe situation, im not saying hes some sort of saint or something but alot of noobs get flamed on this site when a simple, no that wont work would suffice. just using it as an example

[VTECMACHINE]

Most people have respect for Noobs. We are all learning, and we all have to start somewhere right? It's noob that don't take advice which annoys me. Why ask a question here in the first place. Thing is, GSI_PSI doesn't seem like a complete noob. He has a kit, and seems like he has done some stuff to his car (Type R badges, kit, exhaust, rims... etc).

It's pretty clear cut that alot of the people hate illegal mods like this. There is a reason why they are illegal. By changing your perfectly fine lights, you are endangering the lives of others. But it comes down to, if you can't take critisim don't post a question on a forum. People are entitled to express their opinions when it can help the others out... I think everyone here has done just that.

/rant.

[Nax]

i just dont get why everyone is so anti light mods, there are plenty of stock cars out there with the same setup (amber globe, clear lense) almost all new model cars have this setup. if he was talking about changing his airbags to a plastic bag filled with nails maybe ide be worried, but its just a simple light change.

and there are lots of people on here who have illegal mods, lowered cars, oversized tyres, headlight mods, alot of performance mods etc, who dont get flamed, all his wankerage aside it was a simple question.

[VTECMACHINE]

Because this is one of the most pointless illegal mods you can do.

usually when people hit you from behind, it is generally automatically THEIR fault. By putting these lights on, you wouldn't even be able to make an insurance claim and get the other party to pay for you. You would most likely be paying for their car even if it were their fault...

[Nax]

but if u put the amber globe in it its fine. like i said almost all new cars have the same setup. clear lense, red brake and driving lights.

[VTECMACHINE]

but if u put the amber globe in it its fine. like i said almost all new cars have the same setup. clear lense, red brake and driving lights.

If you put the amber globe in, it's still 110% a defect.
Those stock lights you are talking about are engineered, and they need to comply to Aust standards. Company spend lots of $$$ to do this.

These ones are brighter and don't distribute the light properly. It's a hazard.

[GSi_PSi]

The Tailights have another slot on the end for another globe if all else fails ...but
for now ive coloured a normal globe green and it seems to be flashing a little bit amber..

[Dems]

get these from autobarn

3A Racing
EUR-5163

S25 12V 27W Green

[GSi_PSi]

dems- thanks bro.. will be heading off to autobarn 2moroz

[FASN8U]

i just dont get why everyone is so anti light mods, there are plenty of stock cars out there with the same setup (amber globe, clear lense) almost all new model cars have this setup. if he was talking about changing his airbags to a plastic bag filled with nails maybe ide be worried, but its just a simple light change.

and there are lots of people on here who have illegal mods, lowered cars, oversized tyres, headlight mods, alot of performance mods etc, who dont get flamed, all his wankerage aside it was a simple question.

man its simple round here if its not "jdm"then half the ppl here wont blow ther load over it and most ppl will flame it and then call u a noob and ur parts wil be ftl or some shit like that. for fuc ks sake carbon hoods are illegal and you racerboys cream over em

[GSi_PSi]

^^ well said fasn8u

[VTEC18]

they are nice lights though
were did you buy em from and do u rekon they would look good on a maroon teg?

[VTECMACHINE]

man its simple round here if its not "jdm"then half the ppl here wont blow ther load over it and most ppl will flame it and then call u a noob and ur parts wil be ftl or some shit like that. for fuc ks sake carbon hoods are illegal and you racerboys cream over em

huh? You blow your load over car parts... calm down man.

It's got nothing to do with that. I admit there are definately some JDM fanboys out there. I myself love JDM, rather than show cars.

Even though these racerbois, have illegal mods like carbon bonnets etc... majority of their cars are build properly. In order to race, your car needs to be 100% up to spec saftey wise, and reliable too. People that compete have to comply to CAMS, which seems to be very strict on safety.

It's pointless cheap, illegal mods like this which I myself don't like. Sure throw me a proper show car, and i'll respect it, if it's done properly. Shows car be done up Legally aswell.

[GSi_PSi]

vtec18- yeh bro i got em from ebay lol will suit any tegy imo

vtecmachine- i read ur posts and i have changed the psi on my tyres on that same day, my old tailights were faded (came with the car-were custom aswell) and these are actually more safer to use as they are much clearer..i can see were you are coming from .. these tailights are pretty basic and its not like pressing the brake lights are going to blind the other drivers , ive fixed the indicating problem now so everything is sweet. anything that is not standard is a defect anyway and i was just wondering if its complete defect as some lights are allowed...

[VTECMACHINE]

ok. But just be careful. If someone crashes into your rear end, you will not be covered. Cops will say the lights are defectable, and you will have to pay. Majority of the times, insurance is void too.

Faded OEM lights would be better IMO. As long as you can see the light, which im sure you can... it's not a defect. You can get them off Ebay for quite cheap second hand. Wreckers, and honbits have them etc. But if you like the taillights, who the hell am I to say not to use them. I'm just not a fan of them, and they irritate me just as much as HIDs with reflectors head lights (Not projector) at night. Also, becareful of cops, because I reakon you will get defected. People with Tinted OEM tail lights get defected alot, I don't see a reason why cops wouldn't defect these.

[GSi_PSi]

yeh hopefully i dont get defected and (if i do hope the cop if nice) but i might look into getting facelift rear tails..

[VTECMACHINE]

That would look awesome me thinks.
Goodluck, try not to get defected. If you do... can you please tell us all in this thread?

[FASN8U]

huh? You blow your load over car parts... calm down man.

It's got nothing to do with that. I admit there are definately some JDM fanboys out there. I myself love JDM, rather than show cars.

Even though these racerbois, have illegal mods like carbon bonnets etc... majority of their cars are build properly. In order to race, your car needs to be 100% up to spec saftey wise, and reliable too. People that compete have to comply to CAMS, which seems to be very strict on safety.

It's pointless cheap, illegal mods like this which I myself don't like. Sure throw me a proper show car, and i'll respect it, if it's done properly. Shows car be done up Legally aswell.

good points , however wether its built fro tracking or show itl be defectable.
the only reason i didnt end up tinting my tailights is for the exact same reason . didnt wanna void my unsurance just not worth the risk in my case

[VTEC18]

vtec18- yeh bro i got em from ebay lol will suit any tegy imo

ye i been lookin around all arvo on ebay cant seem to find em, do u still have the ebay store link or name?

[90LAN]

my mate had these style of lights on his dc2 he got defected twice and was asked to take to cop shop to show when he fixed it
he now has oem lights no more hassles
but if u like them then keep them on its your car

[FASN8U]

sorry for the noob question but what the hells oem??

[90LAN]

sorry for the noob question but what the hells oem??

lol Original Equipment of Manufacture

[FASN8U]

thanks lol

[VTECMACHINE]

good points , however wether its built fro tracking or show itl be defectable.

Correct, they both will be defectable. However, when ever i'm in the city down George Street on a sat night, the only people that get pulled over and defected are the cars with chromes, and tinted tail lights, crazy paint jobs. Where as the "JDM" more moderate looking cars get let through. Yes some of these cars do look nice. But what i'm trying to say, is cops don't target "JDM" Cars as much. Majority of cops I have spoken to say that they respect the people that race off the streets and stuff, and that have built cars for a reason to race off the street. As long as they are safe and you don't do stupid shit they will leave you alone. I get countless numbers of "nice mate", and thumbs ups from highway patrols on the way home from work. They also told me that they target cars with "big shiny wheels" and "big mufflers" because they know they are half assed, and have pointless modifications on them which make the car unsafe on the road.

But I see where you are coming from, both will be defectable by law.. its just the people that enforce the law choose who to target, and if your car sticks out like a sore thumb and has parts on which can potenitally harm others or are "dangerous" you will be targeted more so that the other guy.

[Nax]

Correct, they both will be defectable. However, when ever i'm in the city down George Street on a sat night, the only people that get pulled over and defected are the cars with chromes, and tinted tail lights, crazy paint jobs. Where as the "JDM" more moderate looking cars get let through. Yes some of these cars do look nice. But what i'm trying to say, is cops don't target "JDM" Cars as much. Majority of cops I have spoken to say that they respect the people that race off the streets and stuff, and that have built cars for a reason to race off the street. As long as they are safe and you don't do stupid shit they will leave you alone. I get countless numbers of "nice mate", and thumbs ups from highway patrols on the way home from work. They also told me that they target cars with "big shiny wheels" and "big mufflers" because they know they are half assed, and have pointless modifications on them which make the car unsafe on the road.

But I see where you are coming from, both will be defectable by law.. its just the people that enforce the law choose who to target, and if your car sticks out like a sore thumb and has parts on which can potenitally harm others or are "dangerous" you will be targeted more so that the other guy.


ya that sucks tho, i mean theres something alot more dangerous about a car tuned to race with full power gear etc, then a stock car with rims and a muffler, but i guess they cant pull over everyone and check under the bonnet so they just go for the shiny things

bloody magpies

[Lukey]

TBH, I'd rather a full fledged race car driving next to me, knowing the fact that everything has to be done safe and properly then a car with lots of bling bling knowing that most of the time it isnt done properly.

[VTECMACHINE]

ya that sucks tho, i mean theres something alot more dangerous about a car tuned to race with full power gear etc, then a stock car with rims and a muffler, but i guess they cant pull over everyone and check under the bonnet so they just go for the shiny things

bloody magpies

I personally think it's to do with the attitude between the two groups. The attitude of people with show cars is worse than the "JDM Racecar" (LOL that sounds so gay). The cars that make the the news and stuff for stupid stuff, and all these hoon segments on TT, and ACA are people with show cars.
I dont know why, but at least twice a day when I take my car out, people in WRX's with chromes try race me with 4 habibs hanging out of the window, saying "come braaa, just race bro. we'll chop you bro... your car's a 1.8L NA bro, it's shit".

Don't get me wrong, the JDM guys definately do stupid shit, but they hide what they do, as they do it for enjoyment, and not for attention. Late night mountain runs, when people aren't on the road. But still people have died on the Touge. I find that stupid also, and I only drive hard on the track.

Anyways, the cops know who the trouble makers are. Show cars WANT to attract more attention, whereas the JDM guys won't. Majority of the time windows up, music low, below 3000RPM. Whereas the show guys will be traffic light grand prixing, and windows down, doof doof going. It says alot IMO, and cops aren't magpies, it's just the show guys do it to themselves, and say they get targeted.

Comes back to the taillights. If me and GSI_PSI were behind cops. Who do you think they would pull over? I'd definately have to say GSIPSI, even though my car is technically much more 'illegal' than his.

Anyways... meh... I don't think I will get my point accross.

[GSi_PSi]

Well funny as it may sound last saturday night i was crusing with 4 integras. 3 of us with custom tailights and one yellow integra typeR.. We came across a highway patrol following us closely and the cop proceded to pull over the stock looking typeR, i was shocked to see he had pulled over the most stock looking integra as it thought he was definatly going to go after one of the more modded teggy's (maybe chance). We all pulled over at the nearby servo and we learnt that the cop was really nice told us not to cruise in groups as we are more likely to be targetted. He also knew his stuff when it came to modding as he identifed the ITR's apexi cold air intake and other mods. It just goes to show not all cops are dickheads.

[Nax]

bet ya anything when hes not a cop he has some sorta dream machine.

not all cops are dicks because beleive it or not, some of them have lives outside work...but alot dont, and so enforcing the law without question becomes who they are

[FASN8U]

bet ya anything when hes not a cop he has some sorta dream machine.

not all cops are dicks because beleive it or not, some of them have lives outside work...but alot dont, and so enforcing the law without question becomes who they are

correct

good points vtecmachine i get what your saying makes sense.


certain cops see wogs , wich is there reason to give em a hard time

[VTECMACHINE]

It's racism... but it happens ey.
Oh and apparently cops also target people that wear hats when they drive, and have dangly things hanging from their rear view mirror. LOL.