[OFFICIAL] -update pg 4 -FD new face lift 2008-2009

[dmx]

Not sure if Hybrid only or All FD.
-Front grille
-Front bumper
-Rear light

http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr32/e2jere/Hondacivic2009_Page_1.jpg
http://i467.photobucket.com/albums/rr32/e2jere/Hondacivic2009_Page_2.jpg

NEW color for FD2R too !!!
http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserDiary/9567767/P1.jpg

[bodaas]

look the same :eek::eek:, only the front grill differnt shape

[Dreams]

hybrid, judging by them wheels. not much of a facelift is it lol.

[SPEEDCORE]

Hey thanks for this pics... source?

Don't mind the grill but those foglights look a bit hmmmm.... look more like an add-on set from Supercheap.

Wondering if they gonna put an electric drivers seat in at least the sport.

[JaCe]

Am I blind or does the rear look the same to me?

On a sidenote, I didn't know the Hybrid had an antenna... I thought all Civics had in-glass antennas.

[clayton4115]

all civic hybrids in the 8th gen have antennas, lol i cant see any difference as well, this is definately the hybrid model, maybe a side by side picture to show a comparison?

[dmx]

yes, sample pic is for hybrid (check the wheels- antenna - duct tail spoiler)
The face lift :
1. Front bumper - from smiling face to sad face (see lower front grille shape and fog shape), type-r shape tho
2. Front grille - mesh added (another type-r copycat) and chrome grille slightly bigger and square shape
3. Rear light - from round shape inside to square shape, looks like lexus GS rear light

and the rest would be the same.
hmm.. front headlight seems different too (???)


Am I blind or does the rear look the same to me?

On a sidenote, I didn't know the Hybrid had an antenna... I thought all Civics had in-glass antennas.
all hybrid had antenna (not in-glass ant), to avoid any interfere to hybrid electrical system

[bodaas]

yes front head light looks different to me

it looks darker

[FallenAngel]

Doesn't look that much different and actually i'd prefer the current front.

The fogs have changed to the USDM style as well.

[FD2R]

mu...i prefer the current.

[denot]

dmx, care to share the source? ^_^

[Euro08Jaz]

lol you need comparisons to see the difference

[ej20i]

hmmmm i gess u cant make a perfect looking car better....hehehhe
foggies looks hmmm CHEAP!!!!overall...it looks the same!!!

[andyhui01]

Am I blind or does the rear look the same to me?


The lights are a completely diff shape... not round anymore.

Plus the headlights are a diff shape as well.

[Nax]

that is the least successful facelift ive ever seen, fire the plastic surgeon

[aaronng]

Not much of a face lift. More like trying to get rid of extra meshing that have too much stock of. LOL

[howy]

i was expecting them to do something like changing headlights to projectors

something with more value... but this isn't even official right?

[nny911]

Oh god .. wtf happened.. so happy i bought this civic.

[r-r-redEuro]

the headlights have black housing, and the front bumper looks more similar to the type R ? fd2r ? where the foglight housing curves outwards not inwards like the previous models.

[Shimian]

might have some problems if installing a mugen front lip. Has the extra bulge

[SPEEDCORE]

The kit will change to accomodate those changes.

[andyhui01]

i was expecting them to do something like changing headlights to projectors

something with more value... but this isn't even official right?

considering the more upmarket Inspire doesn't even have Projectors yet, I didn't expect that from the Civic. But I think for the aus model, HID might come as OEM for the Civic Sport since its already available in the overseas market

[denot]

considering the more upmarket Inspire doesn't even have Projectors yet, I didn't expect that from the Civic. But I think for the aus model, HID might come as OEM for the Civic Sport since its already available in the overseas market

hmmm or the Projectors (non HID) on the sports? did Luxury Inspire (Accord) gets Projectors? or is it just for the V6?

[howy]

kinda dumb when the competition already has projectors:

- toyota corolla
- mazda 3

[denot]

but if you compare civic to other competitor, we miss:
- projector Headlight
- Rain sensor wiper
- Dusk sensor light
- etc etc

[howy]

but if you compare civic to other competitor, we miss:
- projector Headlight
- Rain sensor wiper
- Dusk sensor light
- etc etc

Exactly my point, facelift is meant for improvements to the car either making changes to the body to make it more aesthetically pleasing or by including features that add value to the car.

pretty dissapointing if that's all they're gonna do:

- a fat H(onda) front grille with black mesh, which doesn't even look good
- some black colouring to the headlight housing
- a dodgy lookalike type r front bumper
- slap on black cheap fog lights

Looks like this design was from a kindergarten colouring homework exercise...

[denot]

hmmm... just curious... what "facelifts" do they give on 7th Gen? I can see front grill, back light and rims(?) changes from my previous 2001 GLi to the latest (2005?) anything else?

[Nax]

Exactly my point, facelift is meant for improvements to the car either making changes to the body to make it more aesthetically pleasing or by including features that add value to the car.

pretty dissapointing if that's all they're gonna do:

- a fat H(onda) front grille with black mesh, which doesn't even look good
- some black colouring to the headlight housing
- a dodgy lookalike type r front bumper
- slap on black cheap fog lights

Looks like this design was from a kindergarten colouring homework exercise...


lmao that reminded me of maddox if anyone knows who he is

im disapointed tho, if u werent a honda fan u probably wouldnt tell the difference just by lookin casually at them, a facelift should make everyone want to throw out the old one cuz the new one shits all over it lol. honda design teams are really shitting me off these days, seems like they are disconnected from wat people want.

[howy]

maddox? alphabet of maniless?

just happened to come across this site:

http://www.autoincar.com/primary-spec-leaked-of-2008-honda-civic-japanese-thailand-asia-minorchange-facelift/

Not sure of it's authenticity but here is some interesting info, no pictures though:

-New front frille more sporty looking
-New Fabric texture seat
-Stop rear indicator to change to 8 Polygon form instead of circle lamp.
-Launch in October 2008

[Nax]

thats the guy! but hes got a website that has a bunch of articles ahving a go at things, one of them is on kids drawings. worth a look for sure funny stuff

[Fizz]

:) pardon my ignorance....but whats the big deal on having/missing out on projector lights anyway? sure they look good but dont think it'll improve the light performance (ie beam throw etc). as for the HID system, yes the overseas civic sport equivalent has HID but without pop-out washers...and we need them for ADR compliance.

[dmx]

but this isn't even official right?
It's official for insider only :D

Even type-r FD2 R have 3 new colors, and one of them is BLACK !!!
welcome for the family !!!
Blue gone, purple added.
http://carview-img01.bmcdn.jp/carlife/images/UserDiary/9567767/P1.jpg

MUGEN will follow to release new kit.

[FallenAngel]

WAHHHHHH smexy black!

Any difference in performance wise?

[r-r-redEuro]

wow black honestly looks heaps better than white for once.

[bodaas]

blacks too much swirlll after washh,

but its gangster colour

[buzz]

yer loving it... love the meaner bonnet :D

[dmx]

NOW IT"S OFFICIAL RELEASE !!!

http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/18g.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/18gl.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/18gl20gl-spack.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/20gl.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/mx.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/mx-stylish.jpg

http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/mxb.jpg
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http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/photo01.jpg
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[dmx]

http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/photo03.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/photo05.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/photo08.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/trunkroom.jpg

JDM interior with NAVI
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/civic-cockpit.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/civic-interior-beige.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/civic-interior-blue.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/hybrid-cockpit.jpg
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/hybrid-interior.jpg

[egads]

ohh looks abit more ctr'ish

[SPEEDCORE]

No Rallye Red?
New SPORT wheels look nice.
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/18gl20gl-spack.jpg

[denot]

dmx, whats with the trunk thingy on the last pic here:
http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq29/maper202/trunkroom.jpg

[SPEEDCORE]

I'd say possibly reverse camera for use in conjunction with new nav system.

[stylish.]

Oh wow! I hope we can option our interiors at the same level too!

[Shimian]

woah. there is hope. I really hate the current integrated HU. Hopefully this NAV system (with camera?) is worth getting.

[dmx]

please note : this JDM version which is big diff with AUDM.
reverse camera ? never dream !!! otherwise accord and euro owner will get cranky :D

[denot]

hmmm remote boot opener then? :p

[dmx]

hmmm remote boot opener then? :p

i have 1 spare module for boot opener (FD) if anyone want :D

[howy]

i have 1 spare module for boot opener (FD) if anyone want :D

Hey dmx, how much is the spare module and would any other parts be required?

[triode12]

The new chrome grill looks crap. It makes the vehicle less sporty - it makes it look more like a family sedan.

BTW, the reversing camera, SatNAV units and even a front parking sensor and camera have been available to Japanese buyers since the car was introduced. Honda Australia just doesn't bring them in.

All this talk that we have a small population to justify the high cost of importation is just baloney. NZ has a smaller population than ours yet Honda NZ is able to offer the SatNav unit and front parking sensor, and provide HIDs as standard on their version of the Civic Sport.

[danjoy25]

It will be interesting if the current front lip kits (Modulo and Mugen) available now would still fit and what pain it would be to fit aftermarket spoiler like Mugen or Tyre R with the sport version as it now comes fitted with a deck lid spoiler.

[Philip Lee]

BTW, the reversing camera, SatNAV units and even a front parking sensor and camera have been available to Japanese buyers since the car was introduced. Honda Australia just doesn't bring them in.

our civic is built in Thailand. so what's available in Japan might be irrelevant to us.

maybe the Thai cars have them, i'm not sure tho.

[SPEEDCORE]

Its got nothing to do if ours is built in Thailand or not.... its if Honda Australia WANTS to justify it for our spec cars in the current state of our local market in this segment of car.

DMX: Saying that Honda would not bring it out for the civic because Euro and Accord drivers would be pissed off is not a reason. I'm sure Accord and Euro drivers did not buy them over the civic because of sat nav & reverse cam options.

[Philip Lee]

yes it does matter.

a lot of these features are integrated these days and if the plant doesn't build any cars with these featuers then it is harder for Honda Australia to request them. afterall we have a small market here.

for example Fit in Japan still runs the CVT but we're only getting 5sp auto because Thailand made cars don't have CVT.

btw where does NZ source their Civic? Japan or Thailand?

[SPEEDCORE]

All this talk that we have a small population to justify the high cost of importation is just baloney. NZ has a smaller population than ours yet Honda NZ is able to offer the SatNav unit and front parking sensor, and provide HIDs as standard on their version of the Civic Sport.


a lot of these features are integrated these days and if the plant doesn't build any cars with these featuers then it is harder for Honda Australia to request them. afterall we have a small market here.

I acknowledge that the market is small.... however NZ still is able to get Japanese built FDs. Funny how things work....

Intergrated it is :thumbsup:... adjusting the production line to suit would not be difficult or time consuming IMO, considering that it is basically just dash components. Additionally given that they are built in batches for respective countries (so I have been told)... I don't see it being a major headache in having three lines of compontents for the stage of dash assembly, as they already have two different ones for FD1 and FD2.

Anyway.... facelift should be interesting, I don't mind the taillights.... but those fog lights look awkward.

[panda[cRx]]

there is nothing 'official' about this thread whatsoever. you're all playing guesswork with pics for foreign markets

[denot]

I acknowledge that the market is small.... however NZ still is able to get Japanese built FDs. Funny how things work....


Coz NZ doesnt have trading agreement with Thai? :confused: Also probably becoz with the current one (e.g. current civic model) Honda already meets their selling target

anyway, we just have to wait till next month or so to prove this thread is real :thumbsup:

[SPEEDCORE]

Coz NZ doesnt have trading agreement with Thai?

They actually do.

[dmx]

Hey dmx, how much is the spare module and would any other parts be required?

no other parts needed, all include in 1 complete kit set. to be honest, this is the MOST useful non-aesthetic mods i ever done. imagine, every night i have to open my boot to put/take something, and don't have to find that d*** keyhole in the dark. and with my both hand carry stuff from wollies, just push twice unlock button, and la..la..la..:thumbsup: love it.

[dmx]

It will be interesting if the current front lip kits (Modulo and Mugen) available now would still fit and what pain it would be to fit aftermarket spoiler like Mugen or Tyre R with the sport version as it now comes fitted with a deck lid spoiler.
the ductail spoiler comes as optional accs


Its got nothing to do if ours is built in Thailand or not.... its if Honda Australia WANTS to justify it for our spec cars in the current state of our local market in this segment of car.

DMX: Saying that Honda would not bring it out for the civic because Euro and Accord drivers would be pissed off is not a reason. I'm sure Accord and Euro drivers did not buy them over the civic because of sat nav & reverse cam options.
i'm not saying people will buy over civic coz that reason, but civic is lower class than accord and euro, seems impossible lower class car have better features (optional).


Coz NZ doesnt have trading agreement with Thai? :confused: Also probably becoz with the current one (e.g. current civic model) Honda already meets their selling target

anyway, we just have to wait till next month or so to prove this thread is real :thumbsup:
doesn't matter, where's civic come from, they always follow JDM model.
bet with me, in next coming time, AUDM civic will have this face lift despite come from Honda thai. and all around Asia will have this new face lift regardless JDM or not.

[denot]

bet with me, in next coming time, AUDM civic will have this face lift despite come from Honda thai. and all around Asia will have this new face lift regardless JDM or not.

true true... just without HID, D-Din HU, keyless boot open, etc etc like the JDM one :p

[dmx]

true true... just without HID, D-Din HU, keyless boot open, etc etc like the JDM one :p

and without door, without bonet, without widcscreen..LOL

[denot]

and without door, without bonet, without widcscreen..LOL

hahahah LOL!!!

[ekdez]

when do these get released in oz?

[howy]

I was just browsing the Honda Japan website and I noticed that the new JDM Civic has a new key, the Honda Smart Key. Looks like there's a boot release button, and the key slides out.

Apparently, the door handles have sensors so you don't have to get your key out to open your door (good for rainy days).

Also, there seems to be a new ignition switch or something. So again, you don't need to insert the key you just have to be in the driver's seat.

http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/webcatalogue/equipment/index.html

http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/webcatalogue/equipment/hondasmartkey/hondasmartkey.jpg

http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/webcatalogue/equipment/key/key.jpg

http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/webcatalogue/equipment/engine-start/engine-start.jpg

http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/webcatalogue/equipment/locksensor/locksensor.jpg

[denot]

^^^ old. being post before... er... cant remember where :(

[howy]

^^^ old. being post before... er... cant remember where :(

Didn't remember reading it anywhere so I thought this would be the place to post it :)

[denot]

ah... my bad then :p hope we get this one as well!!!

[denot]

UPDATE!!!

In Japan, they will get K20A for FD2!!!!!!

http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/webcatalogue/grade-data/index.html

And its lower the RPM to 114kw/6000RPM from 114Kw/6500Rpm (jap spec was like this, but oz spec was 114Kw/6200rpm)

[Sherweeeny]

looks like the new ones also have thinner windscreen wipers

[Sherweeeny]

a facelift should make everyone want to throw out the old one cuz the new one shits all over it lol.

no. not quite, the facelift is supposed to be a refresher to boost sales. if what you were speaking of was the case, then the resale value of your civic would be worse than a Magna as everyone would be throwing out their ones for the new one. this is one of the factors in which why honda resales are so good.

[dmx]

UPDATE!!!

In Japan, they will get K20A for FD2!!!!!!

http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/webcatalogue/grade-data/index.html

And its lower the RPM to 114kw/6000RPM from 114Kw/6500Rpm (jap spec was like this, but oz spec was 144Kw/6200rpm)
i thought, oz spec for fd2 is 114 not 144 ??? only fn2r about 140+kw ?

[FallenAngel]

i thought, oz spec for fd2 is 114 not 144 ??? only fn2r about 140+kw ?

Yes that is correct


UPDATE!!!

In Japan, they will get K20A for FD2!!!!!!

http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/webcatalogue/grade-data/index.html

And its lower the RPM to 114kw/6000RPM from 114Kw/6500Rpm (jap spec was like this, but oz spec was 144Kw/6200rpm)

Yes they get the K20A although its similar to the K20A in the base model DC5

[denot]

aiyaaaaaaa wrong typo... :( its 114 not 144... sometimes my hand is faster than my brain :(

[dmx]

that's better, my hand is as slow as my brain ..LOL

[denot]

^^^ not really bro... I was accidentally typing an Indo word on an email to a client once :p

[chunky]

tail lights are alot more attractive

[MKI4EVA]

all this thing needs is euro suspension and brakes and it'll be a huge improvement.

[Ivan_Y]

does anyone know where to get those shiny aluminium lines for doors? cant find it on honda website. sorry if its wrong thread :P

[FitRS]

JDMs are miles ahead of style to what is released here...:eek:

Nice pics. :cool::thumbsup:

[UNLS1]

*cough remote boot release

[denot]

*cough remote boot release

its about time... XD

[Slash]

Anyone know when the new colour schemes are due to be released?

[warwick108]

think about this people.. jsm has an oem satnav.. but can that beat our audm 1 cd mp3 player? or in the fd2 case 6 stacker? I dont think so.. l0l.. not by a long run.

[Sparkz07]

I just hope what ever they do to the face life do not put a build in Player... Hate those ugly things

[santa3563]

Finally, the facelifted 2009 Civic FD on show in Singapore.....

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/7085/28900262928a6e02c0f9bzf3.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=28900262928a6e02c0f9bzf3.jpg)


http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6224/289002629855beebebcfbzi3.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=289002629855beebebcfbzi3.jpg)

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/3928/2890026300239082ab70bwi2.th.jpg (http://img242.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2890026300239082ab70bwi2.jpg)

[Shimian]

i prefer current model. Front is acceptable but the rear square lights looks ugly

[dmx]

another info :
New face lift civic will get : Keyhole light and under door light (damn... i just bought type-r fd2r under door light :-(

[Shimian]

awesome..now can get parts direct and install. Might be a bit pricey. If not, source parts and get them to install. Atleast they will know how it works

[dmx]

but get the info, civic keyhole light very dull, not as bright as fd2r :-(

[happy]

another info :
New face lift civic will get : Keyhole light and under door light (damn... i just bought type-r fd2r under door light :-(
wat is these ?

[dmx]

wat is these ?
under door light :
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ozhonda/doorlight.jpg
haven't install yet

keyhole light :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEgcrWTzbPo

[Fizz]

Hey guys sorry to bring up an old thread, but when is the facelifted civic expected to be on sale or delivered in oz? My mate is planning to order one soon to take advantage of some year end deals, but would it be worthwhile to wait if the facelift is just around the corner?

Dealer informed him that the facelift wont be out till feb 09, but he might just be telling fibs to make a quick sale. :confused:

[Slash]

Went I went to order a night hawk black civic about a month ago... he couldnt find one that wasnt sold, but told me the new crystal black civics are due to start arriving in 3 months.. so Jan/Feb 09 would be about right.

[iversonruls]

sld be a few available in dec

[SHU-ES1]

looks pretty nice, the rims do make it look like a hybrid model.

[Frost_FD]

Whats with the Square lights... yukkkk
It might be a good thing since i driver a 06 model, mine still looks better then the new =D

[markCivicVti]

Yeah I'm not a big fan of the face lift... HOWEVER, the one thing that might get me jealous would be the new black paint, depending if I can even tell the difference when it comes out...

[black8thgen]

ew disgusting tail lights lol. Anyone sure if this is only for the hybrid or for all models too? Btw the new civic model come with boot release on the keys already.. but yea simple mod to do u urself i guess.

[jjvv]

[QUOTE=dmx;1920703]under door light :
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u283/jasperdmx/ozhonda/doorlight.jpg
haven't install yet

the door handle???

[dmx]

[QUOTE=dmx;1920703]under door light :

haven't install yet

the door handle???
No, under door.
if you see the bottom of the door, there's small hole. on type-r there's a light.
fyi. new facelift civic comes with this:thumbsup:

[jjvv]

really? thats should be nice!

[SPEEDCORE]

That hole that you mention..... is there a plug already sitting inside to plug up to the light? Or will these have to be wired?

[dmx]

That hole that you mention..... is there a plug already sitting inside to plug up to the light? Or will these have to be wired?

need to be wired to interior light socket at fuse box (blue connector)

[dmx]

Hey...didin't realize this new facelift already available in here. saw it yesterday (hybrid).
nice indeed.
Front grille (with mesh) looks neat.
Fog light --> ok, not bad
and octagonal rear lamp shape looks sweet indeed !!!

[denot]

^^^ DMX, I've asked a friend working with Honda... untill next year, it will be only for hybrid... (or so he said)

[andyhui01]

wouldn't that be because the Thai factory hasn't started producing the facelifted Civic's yet? I believe Japan has started selling the facelifted civic.

[dmx]

wouldn't that be because the Thai factory hasn't started producing the facelifted Civic's yet? I believe Japan has started selling the facelifted civic.

no wonder, i saw only hybrid(s)

[NZFD2]

^I can confirm from nz that we've got the JDM FD1 and FD2 for sale here

the new rims look better in real life than in pics

[JaCe]

*too lazy to read whole thread*

I've seen a lot of the updated facelifted models of Civic (type r and normal) around Singapore and Malaysia. I'm not a huge fan of the hexagon/squarish tail lights and much prefer the round ones. What does intrigue me over here is how many different aftermarket tail lights there are for the FD1- some are totally smoked, some have the unused red bits around the circles clear, some smoked, some have the whole red area smoked, and some have the entire module clear (like the turn signals).

Back to face lift, the front looks not that different. It's the tail which attracts attention.

[ccab1]

Hey DMX are you sure about the key hole light upgrade on the new facelift? I don't seem to have one in mine? :S...

[dmx]

Hey DMX are you sure about the key hole light upgrade on the new facelift? I don't seem to have one in mine? :S...
err...my info based on (facelift) jdm specs.

[ccab1]

Ohh ok ok that explains is the...seems to me like the only differences between the facelift FD Civic from Thailand is the external cosmetic differences, the new trim inside, the remote boot release, VSA as standard in VTI and VTIL models.

[UNLS1]

wouldn't that be because the Thai factory hasn't started producing the facelifted Civic's yet? I believe Japan has started selling the facelifted civic.

wtf?

we have been selling the facelifted civic since the start of Jan this year.

[denot]

^^^ Geee UNLS1, his comment is waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy back from december last year... :p

[UNLS1]

lol me = fail :p

[dmx]

^^^ Geee UNLS1, his comment is waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy back from december last year... :p
hey..u still here:D