Lowering My Jazz

[Geoffy]

My car ain't even a week old and I'm thinking of lowering it... Anyone know where I can do that? How much? and if I should at this point??? or should I wait till my warranty runs out???

[|N|]

my fren got the same car.. and he had kings springs on them .. and he claims that its shit... now he s gonna order some tein springs...

[spoon fit]

my fren got the same car.. and he had kings springs on them .. and he claims that its shit... now he s gonna order some tein springs...

yes, get tein high tech spring. front low down 30mm and rear 15mm

[TypeG]

get kg/mm
it is yr best bet i swear

[TypeG]

lol
dun care about the warranty
my car just 2 mth old and next mth it will be fully modify and maybe turboed this year
lol

[spoon fit]

get kg/mm
it is yr best bet i swear


how much for the kg/mm ?

[TypeG]

$550
but it is really comfortable and handling as good as tein

[MRFIT]

where to buy kg/mm?

[TypeG]

i order from JDMyard
email them

[dark138]

anyone actually had theirs lowered?

coz i remember the jazz stock suspension isn't that great. i ran into a pothole about 3-4cm deep in parramatta road at about 80km/h and something under the car hit the road. similarly, in sussex street china down, ran down the street for a parking spot, something under the car hit the gutter and it was only 2-3 cm higher than the rest of the road.

anyonen else had the same problems?

[Geoffy]

Yeah... I've scrapped the bottom of my Jazz twice now :(

Once on a speed hump and once coming out of a driveway...

[dark138]

and you want to lower it?

i remember there are some shocks that lets you adjust the height of your car with some control from the inside
try considering those

[tanghy]

tanabe air shocks, very dear..

[TypeG]

lol
if u have the big cash... get those shocks then....
or just get some coilover or shocks and springs combo will be enough and i believe the outcome will be not too bad

[tanghy]

hehehe only for the very hardcore..

[Jus-10]

Mine has been lowered over 2 inches and I haven't hit/scraped a thing???

They must be some pretty deep potholes or super huge speed humps.

[TypeG]

lol
2 inch?
that's too much i think.........

[dark138]

i was driving on epping road today...

something at the bottom of my car is scraped again >.<

[TypeG]

i think yr car have some problem mate.....

[dark138]

um... but i can't be bothered to take it to honda to fix...
they take like 2 days and charges you a few hundred dollars

[Jus-10]

Too low my arse.....handling is in a whole new dimension (and I have virtually no body roll) and it doesn't prevent me from driving anywhere.

No such thi8ng as too low :p

[petrovski]

No such thi8ng as too low

i agree with that

i also have another conclusion that some driveways are illegally steep! :rolleyes:

Pete :)

[wyl03]

the jazz shocks have very short travel.
hitting a pothole or bumps will result in suspension hitting the hard stop almost immediately. this "THUNK" can easily be mistaken for scraping the bottom.

[bird]

I dont think you should worry about the warranty, but if you lowering it causes something under the car to break well dont expect it to be covered.

[rAySiR]

so you lowerin your car or not geoff? :D

[Geoffy]

not for awhile... have somethin else in mind ;)

[brightboyfree]

Try this...Cusco Suspension kit
Around $1200
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/cac05e82/9a5c/__sr_/12af.jpg?ph9CnbBBzlcQzGzn
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/cac05e82/9a5c/__sr_/7ff4.jpg?phvDnbBBjA4oP3NY
It's really different.......
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/cac05e82/9a5c/__sr_/ed2e.jpg?phMEnbBB91BqwTWN

[newbie]

way that car looks sweet low (above).. .. buh geoff your driveway ish gonna be annoying.. .. you already scrapped it? mmm.... start measuring bro!

[Jus-10]

Pics no worky for me?

But if it's coilovers they are C-R-A-P!

[spoon fit]

Pics no worky for me?

But if it's coilovers they are C-R-A-P!


y?

[Jus-10]

Cusco's bottom-end gear is el-crappo. They only do one type of coilover (from memory) for the Fit/Jazz now and they are pretty average - much worse than the TEIN Wagons.....

[spoon fit]

Cusco's bottom-end gear is el-crappo. They only do one type of coilover (from memory) for the Fit/Jazz now and they are pretty average - much worse than the TEIN Wagons.....

what do u think GAB?

[TypeG]

lol
GAB and KYB is preety much the same performance and price
I got KYB since GT Sport recommend this
I am now just waiting for my kg/mm springs here and I can give u some idea how well they are

[spoon fit]

lol
GAB and KYB is preety much the same performance and price
I got KYB since GT Sport recommend this
I am now just waiting for my kg/mm springs here and I can give u some idea how well they are


how much for ur KYB stock? and y don't u buy the spring at the same time?
last time i bought the KYB and kg/mm in hk cost $4200 (for my accord)

[TypeG]

coz i have to send it back
try to lower the weight
i get mine for $4k shocks alone since Jazz is a bit new so price will be more expensive than accord

[Jus-10]

Stop talking in HK money...I have no idea how much it really is! (jk - but seriously, how much is it??)

Spoon fit, are you looking to lower your car too? What are you looking to do?

OT: TypeG I was just looking at your sig, and I was thinking it should say "under reconstruction" for your Jazz now! - hope all is well with that....

[TypeG]

AUD$ = HK$/5.5 around

[spoon fit]

Spoon fit, are you looking to lower your car too? What are you looking to do?



hi, yes i want to lower my car, but i want to change the rims first.

[BBC03]

hey i got problems with my springs...its too hard and its not comfortable enough for me...i think i even damaged my head unit whilst driving...im thinking of getting a coil over....will it make a comfortable drive?
any specific brand?

[spoon fit]

hey i got problems with my springs...its too hard and its not comfortable enough for me...i think i even damaged my head unit whilst driving...

what brand?

[BBC03]

i dunno im asking for a recomendation....

[TypeG]

coilover wont help
it is all depends on the type of the shocker/springs/coilover
some shockers are able to adjust hard to soft
if u have limited burget, go Koni, GAB or KYB
u are have big $, go Spoon or Mugen

[spoon fit]

i dunno im asking for a recomendation....

i mean your spring

[BBC03]

i used factory coilovers and using pedders spring....man it sucks big time....i got it lowered but yeah any advice on how to get a comfortable driving while being low....?
im also thinking of changing tyres...from 205/40 to 215/40....will it help? thinking of getting either BF or Pirelli...
i dun care which one i change...i just want a comfortable drive...???

[spoon fit]

i used factory coilovers and using pedders spring....man it sucks big time....i got it lowered but yeah any advice on how to get a comfortable driving while being low....?
im also thinking of changing tyres...from 205/40 to 215/40....will it help? thinking of getting either BF or Pirelli...
i dun care which one i change...i just want a comfortable drive...???


pedders spring~~!!! oh!

[BBC03]

pedders spring~~!!! oh!

lol....y? u think its good enough???or sucks? :confused:

[spoon fit]

lol....y? u think its good enough???or sucks? :confused:

suck~

[BBC03]

oohhh well....lol
sooo any recomendation on how to get a comfortable drive?

[Jus-10]

Get a matched spring and shock combo for the best ride. If you aren't worried about height (or how much you can lower it) any of the options TypeG mentioned will do the trick.

If you are going to spend the money on Mugen or Spoon shocks and springs, I would be looking at coilovers instead. They will offer you more settings and you will be able to lower the car more (Mugen only lowers the car 15mm!)

It all depends on your budget and what you are trying to achieve.

Pedders springs with OEM shocks = a terrible combo

[TypeG]

for tyres, it is all depends how wide it is too
for 7' wide, i suggest u go 205. go G3 man
i change my car back to stock for claiming insurance since someone hit my car, now i really feel the handling is suck and the ride is funny coz the rims are too thin
hahhahaha
coilover .... u mostly dun need it coz u will hardly go to set yr height unless u go track for best cornering and stuff
i suggest go Koni yellow since it got high low soft hard setting
go trader section, there is a panel beater selling it very cheap.....

[BBC03]

is it alrite if i use my old pedders springs with the koni shock?? or is it better off changing the springs as well?
any advice where can i get a pair of koni shock in syd?
other than the one TypeG mentioned (Thanks BTW), im just askin this so i can get an estimate and compare which one is cheap

[TypeG]

if u have $, get new springs as well
my personal will go kg/mm since many frds recommend that to me
or get any good brand will do.......
contact Koni directly and see where is the distrubtor in Sdy or just ask them how much to buy from their place
u looking for $900 for the shocker alone

[BBC03]

Anyone know the specific part number of the shocks for JAZZ???? trying to get Koni shocks....Thanksss

[TypeG]

email them and ask if better

[rokkuchan]

I got my springs custom made at Industrial Springs in Adelaide.
visit the site at www.industrialsprings.com.au

They got the specs for the jazz so u can tell them how low you want and stuff and they'll make it according to what you want and send it off to ya i think. but i live here in adelaide so they installed it for me as well...dont know if they post it out or not.

The ride is very comfortable with my stock VTi-S wheels. It isn't too rough or too hard ride. But if you have 205/40 or 215/40 or even 235/35 low profiles, it's very very bumpy ride! I had 18" wheels before!

I got set of 4 spring for only au$200 and labor free installation since my car is the first they made for.
The only bad thing about these springs is it's not colour powdered coated. It just have normal paint... you can get it powder coated, but cost extra...

I highly recommend industrial springs. Should email them.

Just to let u guys know.

[jazz12]

Does anybody have any comments about Kingsprings? they are an Australian brand and make springs for the Jazz.

[Jus-10]

Yeah my comment is that they suck...

Some people like them, but I don't. I know of a few guys from BMW circles that have used them and they have sagged. There have also been 2 occasions when springs have snapped (2 seperate vehicles).

I'm not slagging off Aussie companies, but for some reason, their suspension components are generally of a pretty poor standard compared to those made in Japan and Europe. If you can afford it, go for a reputable brand from either Japan or Europe. It will cost you a bit more, but the quality is worth it IMO.

[tanghy]

at least jus-10 agrees with my point of view

i have said the same thing over & over but got flamed nonstop from people b/c they are "patriotic"

[Jus-10]

They all probably just think that you are trying to drum up some business for yourself :p

[tanghy]

they keep saying i'm totally biased
but it is the sad truth, kings/pedders/lovells all don't cut the job

[TypeG]

yeah that
u get wtf u pay for
save longer and get a beteer stuff

[BBC03]

damn Koni/KYB dun have shocks for jazz yet any1 can help?

[TypeG]

......
man
i got my KYB shockers already and it hopefully arrived soon

[BBC03]

really...?cos i called both of them today and they said they dun have it...the guy at KYB even ask me how to spell JAZZ....
anyway can i get the spec for your KYB??
i assume they have the same quality as Koni?

[TypeG]

I have no idea on spec. In the mag, they just said that GAB and KYB is about the same quality and price. I have used GAB b4 and the ride is not too bad. Since I am not required any adjustment on height as i just want my car SLIGHTLY lower since I am getting bodykit done very soon so soft and hard adjustment will be enough for me.
I will let u know how it ride once they arrive but i believe it will not too bad. Koni is not bad either

[BBC03]

is it the same price as koni? how much? where do u get it? i want it badly...cos im really missin the old comfort ride

[Jus-10]

KYB doesn't sell anything for the Jazz in Australia. You will need to look to Asia for more options

[BBC03]

Type G, how much u get for KYB? is it adjustable?
any other shock recommendation?

[TypeG]

I got mine for $1200+ tax as i just receive a letter from custom
the price is not far cheaper than coilover but again i cant afford spoon and mugen one and i dun like the ride of tein so i cant have much choice
it is adjustable but hard and soft as i just want to lower a bit since kits will be arrive very soon i hope.
i am think of doing import stuff from asia and if ppl interested in any stuff they saw in HK or taiwai mag, let me know so i can keep an eye as ppl will think import stuff is easy and cheap but tax and stuff will make u surprised sometimes...

[brightboyfree]

Pics no worky for me?

But if it's coilovers they are C-R-A-P!

try this...
http://hk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/brightboyfree/my_photos :D

[TypeG]

lol
where is yr R engine and mugen mod?

[brightboyfree]

lol
where is yr R engine and mugen mod?

I was only talking about my JAZZ lowering, is this a "lowering my JAZZ" forum??? Please check the old post.......http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9698&page=3&pp=12

The "FIT-R" logo makes a good looking only, i didn't say that there is a replacement engine to my car :!: Sorry to make u feel like that, and honda havent create a "R engine" to FIT/JAZZ........only the FIT Dynamite has a "R engine" and it's created by Mugen mod department, please make it clearly!!! :thumbdwn:

The only Mugen part in my car are door gills at the moment..........

[Jus-10]

try this...
http://hk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/brightboyfree/my_photos :D


Car looks nice.....

They look like the ones. Cusco used to make Zero Wagons for the Fit/Jazz and they were good (and what I had initially ordered for my car), but apparently they stopped making them now and only have their bottom of the range model available which are cheap (for coilovers) but supposedly not too good

[TypeG]

i saw somewhere like this as well
but sound like there is no good comment on any coilover on jazz so far i saw
only spoon one shocker only good comment..

[BBC03]

TypeG hows ur KYB shocks? is it good enough?

[TypeG]

i havent installed man
still waiting my springs to come
but ride should be comfortable i think

[brightboyfree]

Car looks nice.....

They look like the ones. Cusco used to make Zero Wagons for the Fit/Jazz and they were good (and what I had initially ordered for my car), but apparently they stopped making them now and only have their bottom of the range model available which are cheap (for coilovers) but supposedly not too good

the cusco one really not comfortable at all, but cheap... :p
How about your Tein one???

[TypeG]

how much is it?
Tien is around $1900

[TypeG]

also for the R engine, 2 of the Jazz got dc5r engine swap already so it is not only mugen jazz got it. Spoon jazz got dc5r engine in i believe as well.

[wyl03]

i've come across pple talking about Jazz's Modulo suspension kit (presumably marketed by Honda). anyone knows anything more about this?

[Jus-10]

Yeah Modulo is a JDM thing....friggen expensive stuff.

The Teins are nice and comfy...but I have dampening adjustment too so it helps alot.

[wyl03]

whaddya think of this?
under A$800 overseas!

i'm trying to find more info. non-adjustable modulo suspension. i bet your Teins are nice .. but i cannot afford it :(

http://asiapac.worldpay.com/cnb/shop/hondakah?imageID=796&op=imgLib-viewImage

[Jus-10]

Sorry my response about the TEIN's was directed at brightboyfree.

Do you have any other specs on the Modulo gear? Where abouts did you get the price from?

[TypeG]

you can try Showa with OBK springs
it is comfortable and sporty
Showa is the one who made all Honda OEM parts plus all mugen and spoon suspension are made by Showa too
dunno if you guys have heard this or not but you OEM shockers are Showa so quality is not an issue
they may cost $1800 landed which is not cheap
or u can try tein coilover as they is not much choice

[wyl03]

Sorry my response about the TEIN's was directed at brightboyfree.

Do you have any other specs on the Modulo gear? Where abouts did you get the price from?

i'm looking for the MOdulo specs myself. i understand that it *cannot* be fitted on 2004 jazz, only the 2003 Jazz or earlier. something to do with a different position of the arm (?). bummer.

if u go to the singapore honda website, www.honda.com.sg, they have an e-store which has the Modulo parts but no specs whatsoever.

i'm curious to know .. how does your Tein SW feel when driving through crappy roads like parramatta road - do you feel every bump?

[Jus-10]

Yeah man every bump along parra road, but then most cars will feel everything on parra rd, but it's not like a huge shudder ot jolt or anything. It's actually quite controlled. I've been in stock cars that sound worse and handle it a lot worse than my car.

[brightboyfree]

Sorry my response about the TEIN's was directed at brightboyfree. It's ok man...... :D

Do you have any other specs on the Modulo gear? Where abouts did you get the price from?
BTW, I get the suspensions kit from hongkong........it's around AUD$1000 but bring it yourself from hk... :cool:

[TypeG]

u mean yr coilover for $1k AUD?

[TypeG]

lol
mine shock cost price in dealer is $900AUD still in HK
i know what Jus mean now
lol

[wyl03]

you can try Showa with OBK springs
....

can u tell me more about OBK?
i can find any info on it.

any info re your KYB shocks too?

OBK, KYB, RSR .. :confused:

[TypeG]

i got the info in a HK mag
but showa made good shocker as OEM parts also made by them
OBK is just a normal brand for suspension but for the price is not too bad
my KYB... i still waiting for my kg/mm springs to come... i want to try this combo as well asap... hope i can get u a review asap for u

[spoon fit]

Showa with OBK springs!? ppls said shit

[wyl03]

oic. i guess that's a headache - mix & match shocks and dampers to find the best combo. expensive exercise.

[TypeG]

maybe obk springs are not good
but showa is quality stuff.......

[spoon fit]

maybe obk springs are not good
but showa is quality stuff.......

yes..

[BBC03]

wat do you guys think of tanabe springs? r they any good with the OEM shocks?

[TypeG]

lol
is it all up to you
but let me know when the shocker die...

[aznsiko]

ummm.. you should find out if the waranty is voided.. by speaking to ur honda dealer.. then if u r in sydney.. Tempe Tires lowere cars for i fink $450 not sure but some where in that mark..

[Jus-10]

Not the warranty issue AGAIN!

Tempe is GHEY!!!

[BBC03]

so Tanabe springs sucks with the stock shocks????

[TypeG]

no
but depends if u want to damage yr OEM shockers

[wyl03]

i don't think it's so much that Tanabe sucks, I'm sure it doesn't.

It's just a fact that the stock shocks & springs are matched. and if you replace the stock spring with any other spring, that's a good way to lower your car but the stock shocks are probably working harder now and don't be surprised if it fails prematurely.
some people say that will happen in 1 yr or 2 .. me, I would like to keep an open mind.

by then, you can probably get a set of aftermarket shocks, like Showa or something. but again, there's different permutation involved in matching the shocks to the springs.

ALTERNATIVELY .. get coil-overs that have shocks & springs that are "made for each other" :D in addition to having different damping/height adjustability. ALSO .. you can keep your stock shocks & springs.

JUS-10: Say .. do you know what's the difference between the Tein Wagon and your SW? is it just the Wagon lacking the shocks' damping adjustability?

[Jus-10]

Yeah the SWs have dampening adjustment. The regular wagons are sooo soft.

The SWs can't really be compared to the other models in the Tein range ( HAs for eg.) as they all ride like a rock even on the softer settings. You can make the SWs pretty damn firm, but they also offer a pretty complacent ride if you want. Most people say Jap coilovers are rockhard, but these are nothing like that. The ride quality seems to be more comparible to the Biltein coilovers that I had previously - comfy when you need it, and racey when you feel like some spirited driving as opposed chosing between hard or very f*ckin hard

[TypeG]

yes man
those coilover is not for a passenger car as no one want to sat on my ride with those sussy
lol
IMO, i prefer get aftermarket shockers to go with yr springs
match or not is not a BIG deal if u are not after serious track, it is enough and ride will be more comfort

[Geoffy]

Anyone know a good cheap place in Syd to get tein springs???

[tanghy]

z's house

[Geoffy]

??? :confused:

[Jus-10]

Z in is in Sydney and is from the JDMyard clan.....he can hook you up

[Geoffy]

can i get his email or some type of contact please :)

[tanghy]

or email zitian@iprimus.com.au

[mars_panas]

Get air suspension... i might get it soon... because my cars low and i need to plan how to get to one distinantion to the other and it sucks... westside melb has to many pot holes and un-even roads >.<

[noodleman27]

^ well done on digging up a 3 1/2 yr old thread

[mars_panas]

LOL... i didn't see the date of the thread my bad

[Jazzer23]

Hey mars_panas where did you get your carbon bonnet? I'm interested in picking up one for my jazz, but can't really find one atm.

[Aquilla]

LOL. so here goes on digging another 2 year thread on top of 3 n 1/2 year.

I got Skunk2 Coilovers, they are stiff as! but it's good you can adjust them. When i first got it my ride was bumpy as hell.. felt like riding a cargo..
totally not comfortable but the handling was like 200% better then stock. Later on i did some readjustment so the ride can be abit more soft and
enjoyable, what i did was lessen the shocks so that the there's a good balance between the shocks and the springs. Before the shocks was at
it's highest, that's why the ride was so bumpy because the springs barely did anything, it was almost purely just shocks. Now it's alot more smoother
and softer on the road... Skunk2 is abit more for extremist.. haha but the handling oh wow... haahha and i dropped it pretty low so no body roll :p

as said before, no such thing as too low. hehe :p

[ouch]

ok guys lets get this going again.
im looking over all the comments on ozhonda about jazzs and lowering them.

i see that a lot of people have got teins super contact blah blah... but im all new to this.
i want to lower my jazz for the looks but also for a bit better handling and as you said, less body roll.

WHAT SHOULD I BUY!?

[ivanh]

ouch, get some springs if its mainly for looks. people say you wear your shocks out faster if you just replace them with shocks but i haven't had any issues on any of my cars yet. (just me tho)
springs, you can get anywhere from 200-400 buck where as coilovers are 1k+ but handles a lot better

imo, if its just for looks, go with springs

[ej20i]

I lowered my jazz after owning 2 weeks. I got tein s tech. It cost 300 delivered from the states. Quite comfy and good handling. Looks awesome too. I think is an awesome spring

[ouch]

whered you grab them from?

[threesix]

I lowered my jazz after owning 2 weeks. I got tein s tech. It cost 300 delivered from the states. Quite comfy and good handling. Looks awesome too. I think is an awesome spring

pics??

[ouch]

I heard installing just springs can wear out your shocks more quickly? Would it be better to just save up and buy myself some coilovers?

[flipfire]

It will wear out stock shocks, but if its shocks thats designed to handle lowered springs like skunk2's it will be okay.

Yes invest in coilovers, its worth it.

[KenZ_]

what you guys think of the t1r lowering springs?

[kl85]

hey guys i'm thinking of getting the Tein S-tech springs for my jazz vtis 07' and i'm currently running on 15"x7 offset +45 rims. I normally drive 3 other ppl in the morning = 4 ppl in the car, will the springs be able to support this much weight after lowering without rubbing? its pretty much around 60km/h driving to uni in the city area..so wun be going v.fast..thanks for ur replies in advance

[ivanh]

@kl85
my GD is lowered and i have 15x7 + 35, 195/50 and i rub slightly over bumps w/ no one in the back seats. so i'm gonna guess you're gonna get some/lots of rubbing. but you do have 45 offsets which might help it, ionos

@kenz_
t1r, tein & swift get a lot of good reviews. but moreso the teins n swifts so i'd say go for them if you have the option to over the t1r

[kl85]

Hi ivanh, if it rubs, will rolling the guards help? My car looks weird unlowered haha...

[ss-rotel]

my 2005 VTiS GD is running 15x7 +40mm enkei's and running Kings spring, (they only come in lows, so only like 2/3inch lower), no rub, no issue, stock shock, car's done 180,000km+. Rides great, handing improvement was obvious

Will be interesting to see how it holds up once i get it back from getting it turboed :)

[sPoOnD_]

ss-rotel, can u post pics :)

[659cc]

I highly rate the Tanabe DF210 springs. Pictures of it when I still had my Jazz.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l289/tonky168/IMG_5489.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l289/tonky168/IMG_0597.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l289/tonky168/IMG_0512-3.jpg
Lowest JDM spring with one of the hardest spring rates you could get.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l289/tonky168/df210.jpg
Ran 1.19 on wakefield with RE001 street tyres
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l289/tonky168/10121_299308120182_590210182_9183870_4448025_n.jpg

[GU357]

and you want to lower it?

i remember there are some shocks that lets you adjust the height of your car with some control from the inside
try considering those

Air springs AKA air suspension, air shocks whatever
Dunlop make them too, quite rare. ive looked for them for quite some time.

[flipfire]

Whats the stock spring rate on the GD3 jazz anyway?

[sdx91]

what do you guys think about eibach pro-kit springs? any good?

[KenZ_]

I'm thinking of getting the pro kit as well, JDM yard currently out of stock... Read a lot of good reviews on the pro kit on how its a very comfy ride and the improvement on handling (more detail on fitfreak).

Anyone know the part number for the eibach pro kit for GD?

[master.Cuong]

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Eibach-PRO-KIT-Lowering-Springs-Honda-Jazz-GD3-01-08-/370432604168
ebay is ur friend :)

[KenZ_]

thank you master