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GSi_PSi
27-08-2008, 06:08 PM
Hey when i drive my car normally, like when i take off the tyres shiver a bit before gaining traction...What problem could this be? It happens all the time. Could it be the tyres? they are on like 20-10%. Anyone else having this problem? And say if i launch the car at 2,000rpm the car just goes into burnout mode all the way thru to 2nd gear and stops at 3rd gear..
l3vnd1
27-08-2008, 06:54 PM
Tyres most probably.
Maybe try a smoother clutch release?
jaseDC5R
27-08-2008, 07:14 PM
time for new tyres...
ACTI0NMAN-1
27-08-2008, 07:22 PM
Could be Tyre wear, tyre pressure, wheel hop, adjustable suspension at different rates ect..
Q_ball
27-08-2008, 07:26 PM
10% tyres??
Dude, theyre defectable ... and ur not doing urself any favours in terms of safety.
And perhaps when you notice the car hopping when u take off, back off the gas instead of flooring it thru 2nd?
This "problem" of yours, reeks of hoonish behaviour!
rbk_212
27-08-2008, 07:29 PM
10% tyres??
Dude, theyre defectable ... and ur not doing urself any favours in terms of safety.
And perhaps when you notice the car hopping when u take off, back off the gas instead of flooring it thru 2nd?
This "problem" of yours, reeks of hoonish behaviour!
agreed. i second that..
VTECMACHINE
27-08-2008, 07:56 PM
10% tyres??
Dude, theyre defectable ... and ur not doing urself any favours in terms of safety.
And perhaps when you notice the car hopping when u take off, back off the gas instead of flooring it thru 2nd?
This "problem" of yours, reeks of hoonish behaviour!
LOL second that.
But Q-ball... 10% of tread above trend indicator, is legal. 10% of total tread... illegal.
wait this is a Gsi right...? They can't pull burnouts, can they?
Perhaps try wrapping your 20"s in something better than Nankangs or Triangles.
A gsi should be able to pull a burnout, A breeze civic can do a burnout on take off pretty easy. New decent tyres should help your problem with the chirping/hopping when launching.
GSi_PSi
28-08-2008, 12:27 AM
ive just had a look at my tyres and the problem was with wheel alignment. only one side of the tyres had been worn out to 10% like the outer bit..gonna head off and replace asap...lol at vtecmachine you make it sound asif a gsi has a carby engine or something
VTECMACHINE
28-08-2008, 10:03 AM
ive just had a look at my tyres and the problem was with wheel alignment. only one side of the tyres had been worn out to 10% like the outer bit..gonna head off and replace asap...lol at vtecmachine you make it sound asif a gsi has a carby engine or something
haha I was joking.
what tyre pressure you using?
jebus 10%, i dont even let my crapbox mazda 86 with a missing window and a dint bigger then my leg on it get that low. how do you stop??? ude be sliding all over the place in slippy conditions.
throw some chains on it, thatl stop any slipping ;)
_paybk
28-08-2008, 02:05 PM
RBK_212 do u drive the teg with the number plate "ADONIS?"
GSi_PSi
28-08-2008, 02:44 PM
yeh i dunno how it came to this. never gonna do any more retreads! lol.
vtecmachine = gonna get my typeR engine installed soon lol.. goodbye gsi engine..but im waiting untill i change all the driveshafts all handling parts aswell.
VTECMACHINE
28-08-2008, 03:19 PM
yeh i dunno how it came to this. never gonna do any more retreads! lol.
vtecmachine = gonna get my typeR engine installed soon lol.. goodbye gsi engine..but im waiting untill i change all the driveshafts all handling parts aswell.
Nice stuff mate! :)
You using retreads? Get some better tyres. Toyo T1R's are cheap, last long, and get good traction. RE001's are apparently quite good and popular nowadays too.
The strange wear might be caused by incorrect tyre pressures.
GSi_PSi
28-08-2008, 03:50 PM
well on the tyres it says 50psi max and i set it to 50psi.. doesnt matter anyway because im changing them asap....
Lukey
28-08-2008, 04:17 PM
50psi,
holy fcuk
VTECMACHINE
28-08-2008, 04:24 PM
well on the tyres it says 50psi max and i set it to 50psi.. doesnt matter anyway because im changing them asap....
Nub. This is why your tyres are wearing funny. Try like 38 Psi, on your Gsi, LOL it rymes.
what do you think happens when you pull these burnouts, with your tyres are on 50 Psi, cold? Gas when heated expands, and thus causes more pressure inside of your tyre, raising it well above 50psi.
Next set of tyres, try using less pressure, ie: 38-40 psi Max.
l3vnd1
28-08-2008, 07:10 PM
OMFG - 50psi.
lol...
OMGX2 - Retreads...!!!!!
WTF!
Zakarados
28-08-2008, 07:15 PM
WoW 50 PSI wdf!
what is the normal PSI rating for you car/wheels? It should say inside ur ur driver side door area.
The advised PSI for the DC5S is 32PSI, 50 sounds way too high!!!
l3vnd1
28-08-2008, 11:16 PM
240kpa front, 230kpa rear for DC2R I think.
Thats abour 34/33 i think.
LOL 50PSI LOL
omfg that is so crazy, i don't even wanna pump mine past 35...
if you read drivers side on sticker it says in kPa and at petrol station or w/e it has kPa reading aswell as a option. You should only use like 38 max max...
if your going on track.
Lukey
29-08-2008, 12:36 PM
i use 36 or 38 depending on what sorta ride im after
JasonGilholme
29-08-2008, 01:00 PM
1) 50 psi!! omg man. *sigh*
2) retreads!! omg man. *sigh*
3) 3rd gear burnout and you still haven't decided to come off the throttle!! omg man. *sigh*
36psi front
32psi rear
temperatures from normal road driving will rais a few PSI. but when doing fully hektic burnouts they'll get higher again.
note: more turbo PSI = good. more tyre PSI = not always good :p
tekung89
29-08-2008, 01:05 PM
50psi on 10% tread? ur kidding right lol. no traction even in reverse
Feverpitched
29-08-2008, 03:10 PM
Mr. Darwin, where are you?
rbk_212
29-08-2008, 05:30 PM
RBK_212 do u drive the teg with the number plate "ADONIS?"
no thats not me :)
Lukey
31-08-2008, 09:42 AM
36psi front
32psi rear
Why do you have more in the front than rear?
L-Boogie
31-08-2008, 03:16 PM
This "problem" of yours, reeks of hoonish behaviour!spoken from the devil himself
l3vnd1
31-08-2008, 04:48 PM
Why do you have more in the front than rear?
I would assume because that way it reduces understeer.
Also, factory run more in the front than the rear.
Lukey
31-08-2008, 07:06 PM
I would assume because that way it reduces understeer.
Also, factory run more in the front than the rear.
Ohok, I'll have to try that.
Elwood
31-08-2008, 09:58 PM
Mr. Darwin, where are you?
lmao.
VTECMACHINE
02-09-2008, 02:16 AM
I would assume because that way it reduces understeer.
Also, factory run more in the front than the rear.
I have found that this INDUCES understeer.
Higher PSI as the rear makes the car oversteer.
I use like 36 front, and 38 rear on the street.
40PSI Hot, for the track on street tyres.
LOL once again for 50 PSI, he's called PSI GSI for a reason.
GSi_PSi
02-09-2008, 01:10 PM
lol shurrup everybodyy..i put hi psi 4dlulz
VTECMACHINE
02-09-2008, 02:32 PM
For the what?
Anybet you won't be telling us to shttup once your tyres pop, when you pull a burnout, and you break those rims.
l3vnd1
02-09-2008, 10:20 PM
I have found that this INDUCES understeer.
Higher PSI as the rear makes the car oversteer.
I use like 36 front, and 38 rear on the street.
40PSI Hot, for the track on street tyres.
LOL once again for 50 PSI, he's called PSI GSI for a reason.
I disagree.
The tyre deforms under load. Causing it to roll.
A higher PSI prevents this by making the sidewalls stiffer.
In a car thats FF focused; a higher PSI at the front is crucial for cornering.
Thats why Honda have it like that from factory.
However if you run aftermarket sussy & your own setup different story...
In relation to PSI GSI; 50PSI I can understand as a misunderstanding. Inexperience if you will.
To put re-treads though I can not.... Still baffles me as to why someone would do it to an integra...
Semi-trailer maybe...
VTECMACHINE
03-09-2008, 12:22 AM
I disagree.
The tyre deforms under load. Causing it to roll.
A higher PSI prevents this by making the sidewalls stiffer.
In a car thats FF focused; a higher PSI at the front is crucial for cornering.
Thats why Honda have it like that from factory.
However if you run aftermarket sussy & your own setup different story...
In relation to PSI GSI; 50PSI I can understand as a misunderstanding. Inexperience if you will.
To put re-treads though I can not.... Still baffles me as to why someone would do it to an integra...
Semi-trailer maybe...
Fair enough, I get what you are thinking, I think differently though - what ever works for you is cool... this is from my own trial and error though.
Don't go by stuff you read or hear, or even think. Just try some pressures if you can be bothered, and make your own mind up.
GSi_PSi
03-09-2008, 01:11 AM
kk pplz ive swapped out the wheels for stockies now..
should i change the front two tyres to new ones or just get 4 new ones(as only the front 2 are stuffed, the rears are on aproxx 60%- i just dont want a bumpy ride because of different tread percentage) ..know of anyplaces that do good deals and what brand of tyres should i get (minimal wear,good traction) ?
VTECMACHINE
03-09-2008, 01:26 AM
Make sure you have the same size wheels on all 4 corners.
FWD's wear the fronts much quicker then the rear. I reakon you'll go through another set of fronts before you replace the rears.
If it's just for the street, and you drive normally, you can definately just put new tyres on the front.
As for the wear, look for the treadwear rating of the tyre. Each tyre brand/style, and perhaps size will have a different treadwear rating. The higher the number, the slower it wears.
I use Toyo T1R's. They are a reasonably priced tyre, and last fairly long (espec on our light Hondas), they are quite popular through out the ITR guys. T1R's are great, only bad thing I can think about, is that the tyre is directional (which makes rotations a b***h), and the sidewalls are quite soft. Apart from that, great wet weather tyre, and great in the dry too/
Bridgestone Potenza RE001, are meant to be the best bang for buck tyre out there atm.
Have a look at them.
That's all I can think of actually.
Make sure you don't use CRAZY pressures. What are you using now?
GSi_PSi
03-09-2008, 01:31 AM
yeh thanks might check out the RE001...i dont really know what pressure the stockies ive put on the car are on.will have to check at the servo, but visually they seem to be 30psi
VTECMACHINE
03-09-2008, 11:15 AM
Go bump them up to around 36 psi.
Zakarados
03-09-2008, 12:17 PM
When you get your RE001's ask Bridgestone for the optimal tyre pressure for your setup for even wear, long life, low fuel consumption.
If you use stock rims, just use what Honda advises.
l3vnd1
03-09-2008, 01:14 PM
Fair enough, I get what you are thinking, I think differently though - what ever works for you is cool... this is from my own trial and error though.
Don't go by stuff you read or hear, or even think. Just try some pressures if you can be bothered, and make your own mind up.
:thumbsup: Most definately!
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