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trism
28-08-2008, 01:49 AM
can we please have a stick at the top of the n00b section that lists how much engine swaps cost?

coz like, right now there is about 4 threads on teh first page all asking the same thing.

all you need to do is ask someone like toda, or a place that does swaps how much they normally charge, and off you go.

then, whenever a tool pops in to ask how much a swap is we can just link to that thread, and close it

or even, have a popup when they try to post that says "are you asking about an engine conversion? if so, check out this thread, its got everything you need"

just my 2 bob

rayb3na_
28-08-2008, 10:17 AM
because there is alot of variables to consider.. like where your going to do the swap.. whats needed in the swap.. sometimes the motors going in need to be fully serviced and stuff.. sometimes not.. sometimes there difficulty getting the motor in although its direct bolt in but yeah too many variables.. but generally speaking.. backyard diy do them from 500 - 1500 depending what you need done.. shops can charge anywhere between 1000 - 3000 depending whos doing the work etc..

Nax
28-08-2008, 10:40 AM
na i agree with trism, should have either a popup/sticky maybe with a list of approx costs for swaps. cuz generally speaking all they are lookin for is an idea. if they want exact they would get off the computer and go ask someone who does swaps cuz like u sed rayb3na, each case is different so anything we roughly give them is moot cuz it will most likely be diff for them

SHOGUNOVDDRK
28-08-2008, 10:53 AM
I think there should be another Swap Stickie but i think people (such at Toda,Jdm Yard,Traders,Bennjamin etc) should be the ones to make it and service it and state the variables of a swap and things to think about

I know Danny has done a swap guide but i think its time we had something more raw like a Wiki

...i honestly think that when you first join OH you should be limited to Making the one thread (your intro thread BY FORCE), that once you post your intro thread you are redirected to the Rules and other then being able to post in your intro thread (to responses)

I think that should be in affect for the first 30min-1.5h (My views may see harsh but people who arent used to forums DO NOT READ THE RULES!)

Nax
28-08-2008, 10:56 AM
hmm interesting, i think that 30 min freeze would have alot of people pissed and probably leave, not a bad idea to have them redirected to rules, but i mean lots of people who read the rules still dont follow them, so wats the point of jamming them forcefully down new people gullets.

SHOGUNOVDDRK
28-08-2008, 11:04 AM
so wats the point of jamming them forcefully down new people gullets.

I just think it needs to be done

I believe last weekend there was a new member posted 2 (and i repeat T-W-O) of the exact same thread which was blatant advertising and eventuated to them being deleted

At the time of him posting the thread i was speaking to him on msn

I had informed him that was against the rules etc etc etc which he did not know because he did not read the rules

I think a 30 minute Thread creating (if that be a minimum) needs to be put in place to prevent these things (along with the Rule Redirection) from happening in the future

SiReal
28-08-2008, 11:56 AM
We can't be having how much threads etc etc because say, if its stated as $7K for a B18C swap, and the guy gets charged $10K for it, then hes naturally going to start blaming OH for misinformation. If the blame game gets them nowhere, then they might decide to sue OH.

The user has to do their own research on these things to enable them to get a full picture of what is required and how much it would cost.

The new users can search, we always encourage that - and that should give enough indication of the market value by reading past responses.

Zdster
28-08-2008, 12:22 PM
I can do it for $10k.

chockz
28-08-2008, 01:17 PM
i think we can guesstimate w/o the labour...i guess most ppl want to know what parts are involve example:

K20A engine (depends on spec) - 8k - 9k
DC5R tranny - 1k
Hasport engine mount - 1k
Exhaust + headers - 2k
K-pro ECU - 1k
blah blah blah

total : XXX


the labour really depends isn't it...don't really know if you pay for wat you get...

simonnowis
28-08-2008, 01:33 PM
I agree with Raybena there are just too many variables to give prices on the engine swaps. plus prices are always subject to change, putting a thread up will require constant editing etc. if you had a b18c with 50km and a b18c with 200,000km, how will you give an estimate on that. it would be best for them to use the "search" function and then do their own searching on the parts for sale, trader section etc for the more accurate costs involved.
This way they will eventually gain more knowledge on swaps and have more of an understanding why the costs differ.

trism
28-08-2008, 01:55 PM
lol why is everyone so negative.

it goes something along these lines:

The following is a rough guide, do not expect the prices to be exact. if and when you decide to go ahead, call or email a few places that do swaps to find out the exact price they charge

halfcuts for the following engines go for these prices
b16 xxx to xxx
b18 xxx to xxx
k series xxx to xxx

bare engines
b16 xxx to xxx
b18 xxx to xxx
b20 xxx to xxx
k series xxx to xxx

depending on the condition of the engine it will add up to xxx for new seals/pumps/etc



saying "it will be best to use the search function" people are to retarded to use it.

they just jump on and post.

before they post it needs to say "please seach. if you dont find anything, please change the search. if you are searching for under 3 chracters, ad a wildcard * to the search. no matter how obscure you think the question is it has been asked before. if you ignore these and ask a question we have teh right to smack you with a ban hammer"

Zdster
28-08-2008, 03:15 PM
lol why is everyone so negative.

it goes something along these lines:

The following is a rough guide, do not expect the prices to be exact. if and when you decide to go ahead, call or email a few places that do swaps to find out the exact price they charge

halfcuts for the following engines go for these prices
b16 xxx to xxx
b18 xxx to xxx
k series xxx to xxx

bare engines
b16 xxx to xxx
b18 xxx to xxx
b20 xxx to xxx
k series xxx to xxx

depending on the condition of the engine it will add up to xxx for new seals/pumps/etc



saying "it will be best to use the search function" people are to retarded to use it.

they just jump on and post.

before they post it needs to say "please seach. if you dont find anything, please change the search. if you are searching for under 3 chracters, ad a wildcard * to the search. no matter how obscure you think the question is it has been asked before. if you ignore these and ask a question we have teh right to smack you with a ban hammer"

There is a difference between engine prices and install prices. To list prices like you have above is easy. After that you have to add many many variables - what car it is going into, the condition of the engine, are you upgrading parts on the engine etc etc etc.

The real problem is most people are just to lazy to search or ring a few workshops and get quotes themselves (most workshops will give you a rough estimate over the phone)