Problem Problem... Help!!!

[huhjared]

bought my euro from motorama like 2 weeks ago. just had a big problem...
my driver's central locking is not locking or unlocking all the time... car is getting harder to start... could it be a weak battery? or is the central locking system failing.

If you leave the car for some time it unlocks when u reach the car...
but if you try to lock it back immediately, all doors lock up except the driver's door.
tried the internal switch to lock and unlock the door. all doors work except again the driver door...

anyone know why?

is it the battery dying? or the thing that controls the central locking dying?

[Ken-f]

Could be the battery. How long before it starts?

[EuroDude]

Yeah sounds like a bad battery. Get a multimeter (you can buy 12v ones cheap from dick smith) and check the voltage of the battery. It should be:

12v when the engine is off
14v+ when the engine is on

Also change the battery in the remote as it may be fading. You can get them at dick smith.


If the drivers door lock isnt locking when the other are, the cable may be loose or something, or the actuator may need replacing.

[Accord Basic]

is the actuator problem, I have that problem too. just use your key to lock it. should work. to replace the actuator cost me around $300 (dealer price). sometime I also found very hard to start the engine. I used better fuel, looks like run better and easier to start.
All the Euro have to cracking 7 to 8 times before engine start. just a bit longer than normal engine. Let me know if I am wrong. Thanks
Accord basic

[huhjared]

anyone knows how to pull my door apart to test the actuator?

[EuroDude]

If you replace the battery, get one with a higher CCA rating.

The stock one is 330ca I think. Since I upgraded to a 400cca, the engine starts in 2-3 turns instead of 4-5 turns :thumbsup:

[EuroDude]

anyone knows how to pull my door apart to test the actuator?

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[LXRY]

anyone knows how to pull my door apart to test the actuator?

Sorry can't help you their, but if you like I can give you link(s) for the repair/service manual for your car.

[LXRY]

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9307/eurodoortrimremovalfx2.gif

Beat me too it.....;)

[huhjared]

i really cant believe it...
it happened so suddenly...

[huhjared]

2 mins before i lock the car... i was having no problems with it... where is the link to download the service manual?

[EuroDude]

You can get service manuals on ebay for $10. I doubt you can find a CL9 service manual on a website.

Just use this to remove the panel: http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/9307/eurodoortrimremovalfx2.gif

[huhjared]

so u guys rekon its the actuator??
do u think the dealer would hold responsibility for it?
will try the battery test now...

[EuroDude]

If you manually push and pull the lock up and down, does it motorize?

Did the dealer give you warranty? I think they are liable for 1 year by law, and 3 months for parts.

[huhjared]

be right back in 5 min going to try out all possiblities now

[Crapdaz]

if you have warranty from the dealer for buying the car you should use it if you can

[huhjared]

ok.... the lock works if i Lock in manually... but if i unlock manually it doesnt work... i guess it might be a loose connection?
the button on the power windows panel works by unlocking and locking all doors except the drivers...
so logically it only motorised the other doors if you lock but not unlock.

[EuroDude]

It sounds like the actuator works, so it could be misaligned or loose or jammed.

Check for warranty. If no warranty, pull off the lining, remove the mechanism, grease it and re-seat it.

You will see some rubber sound dampening and thin plastic weathering covering the holes. To remove it, heat the glue around the edges using a hair dryer and pull it off (be careful not to burn the thin plastic). Once done, heat it up again and re-apply it.

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[huhjared]

ok i think its the actuator that is the problem.. cause the battery is fine...how much for the replacement? would warrenty cover these?

Some defects are excluded from the warranty:

* a tyre
* a battery
* a light
* a radiator hose
* a vehicle accessory, radio, tape deck, cd player or air bags
* paint work or upholstery that should have been apparent at the time of sale
* any additions made after the buyer takes possession
* on vehicles older than ten years old, or more than 160 000km, the air conditioning unit is not covered.

[tony1234]

ok i think its the actuator that is the problem.. cause the battery is fine...how much for the replacement? would warrenty cover these?

Some defects are excluded from the warranty:

* a tyre
* a battery
* a light
* a radiator hose
* a vehicle accessory, radio, tape deck, cd player or air bags
* paint work or upholstery that should have been apparent at the time of sale
* any additions made after the buyer takes possession
* on vehicles older than ten years old, or more than 160 000km, the air conditioning unit is not covered.
Looks like warranty will cover it.

[huhjared]

i called the dealer up today twice. in both the conversation he said: " Dont worry mate i would look after you" WTF does that mean....

[Euro08Jaz]

i called the dealer up today twice. in both the conversation he said: " Dont worry mate i would look after you" WTF does that mean....

pfft ahahaha, sounds like they are going to "deal" with you (in a sinister voice)

[aaronng]

Tell the dealer you are bringing the car in to be repaired today. :D

[huhjared]

ok went to call him again for the third time today... and he say the magic word..." yes its covered" i guess he doesnt know that its gonna cost them $180 for the part instead of the $5 fix for the motor on other models... hahhahaha...

[huhjared]

Just to update i go the door fixed... free from the dealer... apprently it cost them $320 to get it fixed... and it was the acutator...

[EuroDude]

dayam $320? they must have used a new one from honda

how can a little electric motor cost that much lol. I bet it cost like $10 to manufacture

[aaronng]

dayam $320? they must have used a new one from honda

how can a little electric motor cost that much lol. I bet it cost like $10 to manufacture

The plastic bag with the Honda sticker on it costs $310. That's why.

Probably labour.

[ms700]

FYI the actuators retail for $194.65

What they cost to manufacture and what they sell for are two totally different things! You dont buy a new clothes dryer for $100, or a can of Coke for 20c do you?

Dont hate the player........

[Suntzu]

bought my euro from motorama like 2 weeks ago. just had a big problem...
my driver's central locking is not locking or unlocking all the time... car is getting harder to start... could it be a weak battery? or is the central locking system failing.

If you leave the car for some time it unlocks when u reach the car...
but if you try to lock it back immediately, all doors lock up except the driver's door.
tried the internal switch to lock and unlock the door. all doors work except again the driver door...

anyone know why?

is it the battery dying? or the thing that controls the central locking dying?
SAME. My drivers side door auto lock died last week. Getting it fixed under dealer extended warranty.

I think mine wore out from 3 years of me clicky click!

[aday]

The plastic bag with the Honda sticker on it costs $310. That's why.

Probably labour.

I had my passenger door actuator replaced last week (sadly, I was 2 months out of warranty... sigh). Part was $200, labour $65.

[Crapdaz]

damn.

[EuroDude]

pfft $200, must be sourced from Ferrari lol

Surely u can get an aftermarket one from Repco for $39.95

[tony1234]

pfft $200, must be sourced from Ferrari lol

Surely u can get an aftermarket one from Repco for $39.95
Maybe guys that install car alarms have the actuator.i can't see them being much different.

[tron07]

If I strip all those plastic and dynamat the door, will they still cover it if teh acutator fails?

[EuroDude]

Maybe guys that install car alarms have the actuator.i can't see them being much different.

Hmm true. Lucky my actuator is still good.


If I strip all those plastic and dynamat the door, will they still cover it if teh acutator fails?

Yes they should, you dont touch the actuator when installing dynamat. Unless the dynamat is physically touching the actuator or something. They would need to prove the dynamat damaged the actuator.