Euro CL9 With NOS... Check this out...

[Miz_II_Die_IV]

Hey ppls, Was looking thru ebay and came across this car... has anyone even seen this one... its got NOS and all.... He reckons his got all the parts of the EURO R... shiet... check it out... Shud get him to come to the EUro meet... for sure....

Would love to see in in flesh...

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Honda-Accord-Euro-2007-CL9_W0QQitemZ260280025700QQihZ016QQcategoryZ35227Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

wat u guys think...

[longers]

was discussed in the lounge...he think he still has warranty HAHAHA

[mr_vtec]

man thqat engine bay looks meannn as helll

[Euro08Jaz]

off topic what rims would suit that color car? wedsa70 in bronze or ce28ns also in bronze??

[JunYu]

^ the ctr wheels doesn't look as good as i would've thought.

[Crapdaz]

rofl, goodluck man with selling that.
Engine bay looks hella mess.

[power_of_dreams]

off topic what rims would suit that color car? wedsa70 in bronze or ce28ns also in bronze??

ctr wheels look average at best...
sa70 in black chrome!

http://www.aj-racing.com/catalog/files/d_1877.jpg

[Euro08Jaz]

oh so thats what your avatar is? beautiful wheels pmed one of the traders but they arent ordering them in :(

[MikeyG]

i thought its illegal to have NOS in aus cars??

[JunYu]

wow i love those wheels power of dreams!

[johnprocter]

i thought its illegal to have NOS in aus cars??

lol what ISNT illegal to have in aus cars.

[xntrik]

lol what ISNT illegal to have in aus cars.

sexy time.


this car looks like its had the dick.

[tony1234]

i thought its illegal to have NOS in aus cars??
Yeah,me too.Would be interesting to take it for a spin and vtec it a few times!

[huhjared]

one off the topic question... since vtec on the euro kicks in only at 6000rpm could we use a vAFC to advance the vtec timing? any gains on that?

[aaronng]

Loss in power probably. If you want to get a power gain from earlier vtec, you need ignition timing and VTC control as well, both of which are not controllable with the VAFCii.

[huhjared]

OOooo.... sorry about the noob question... first vtec car... somehow disappointed as i tried a civic with vtec and the power difference when the vtec kicks in is really noticeable while on the euro, sometimes i really wonder if honda just puts the vtec sticker on the engine and thats it....

[hisoka]

euro is different vtec bro~more like the old VTEC-E, economical.

[Pumped]

Looks about as euro r spec as my euro was lol

engine bays kinda cool, lots goin on though

i would chop this noob

[aaronng]

euro is different vtec bro~more like the old VTEC-E, economical.

No it isn't. It has the same type of VTEC that the DC5R has.

[aaronng]

OOooo.... sorry about the noob question... first vtec car... somehow disappointed as i tried a civic with vtec and the power difference when the vtec kicks in is really noticeable while on the euro, sometimes i really wonder if honda just puts the vtec sticker on the engine and thats it....

That's caused by 2 reasons. The first is that the highcams on the Euro is not much more aggressive than the lowcams, so when it switching at the VTEC point, there isn't a bit jump in torque. Also, the Euro's low cam is so aggressive that it is already making good torque at 4500-6000rpm that when you switch to highcam, there is not a boost, but rather just an extension to try to slow down the torque from decreasing. 2nd reason is because the 2.4L engine just can't fill the cylinders with air quick enough above 6000rpm.

[huhjared]

can anyone enlighten me on this thread that i started

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=97171&page=2

[hisoka]

No it isn't. It has the same type of VTEC that the DC5R has.

hey ??? i thought k24 i vtec was based on fuel saving and k20 vtec (dc5R ep3) was more towards power like the b series ?

[enkay]

lol if u read his 2 posts up, aarong explains why

[felixd]

it just need to change the ECU for this car then it will be all good to go :) cuz he did mention modified his TB n intake manifold :) im sure this car will run rich on fuel :) correct me if im wrong

[hisoka]

oh yep~never knew that, i think i might start modify the euro~

[Euro08Jaz]

ad doesnt mention anything about engine managment, lol cant be believe the modifications made on such new car!

[cvicek]

sexy time.


this car looks like its had the dick.

BIG 1 :p

[xsite85]

nos on NA is that worth it...

doesn't Vtec work better hotter?

[aaronng]

hey ??? i thought k24 i vtec was based on fuel saving and k20 vtec (dc5R ep3) was more towards power like the b series ?

K20A2 in the DC5R and EP3R also use i-VTEC.
K24A3 in the Euro uses the same i-VTEC as K20A2.

K24A1, K24A4 and K20A3 use i-VTEC where it is only on the intake cam.

R18A and L15A uses economy VTEC.

[aaronng]

nos on na is that worth it...

Doesn't vtec work better hotter?
wtf???

[johnprocter]

wtf???

HAHA wtf

[Type R Positive]

My iVTEC's hot! Any way to cool it down?

[viper8548]

Wow a push start button, never knew you could get that on the euro. Wonder how it works, does the key have to be plugged in?

[johnprocter]

yeah how would that work :S ?

[hisoka]

yer key has to be in. unless its like a viper style were th key doesnt have to be in. usually if its a button inside then key has to be in.

[aaronng]

Wow a push start button, never knew you could get that on the euro. Wonder how it works, does the key have to be plugged in?

Same as S2000. Put the key in, turn, press button. There is a DIY to install it in the DIY section.

[Crapdaz]

Wow a push start button, never knew you could get that on the euro. Wonder how it works, does the key have to be plugged in?
It's your simple circuit with a normally opened switch.
And as aaron has said normally you turn it and it would ignite the car but since your switch cuts out the power connection you are required to push the switch so it can start.

[longers]

^ yeap what he said hahaha i have one in my accord. useless i tell you.

[EUR003act]

i love how he says "fitted out to euro R specifications" hahaha

he just has the badges!

no bucket seats, no LSD, no 4.7 final drive, no super sexy K20.... lol theyre all the best bits!

and the fact he doesnt mention engine management (or power/quarter fiqures) suggests to me that this setup is DOOOOODGY.... he prob took it to tempe/ozzy tyres and said "hey bro can you nos my ride"

and in regards to calling my iVTEC economical! :eek: i dont know whether to take as a compliment or be insulted :p lol

[Crapdaz]

i love how he says "fitted out to euro R specifications" hahaha

he just has the badges!

no bucket seats, no LSD, no 4.7 final drive, no super sexy K20.... lol theyre all the best bits!

and the fact he doesnt mention engine management (or power/quarter fiqures) suggests to me that this setup is DOOOOODGY.... he prob took it to tempe/ozzy tyres and said "hey bro can you nos my ride"

and in regards to calling my iVTEC economical! :eek: i dont know whether to take as a compliment or be insulted :p lol

you know what it is, it prob is a rebadged fireextinguisher resprayed to blue with NOS sticker stuck on with blanking tubes leading into the inner wall which goes no where.:thumbsup:

[Type R Positive]

Fire suppression system.... ROFL!

[EUR003act]

system was installed by the guy himself (he is motor mechanic by trade)

he said it puts down 140kw atw without NOS... but never dynoed with the gas... uses halteh piggy back ecu...

[Crapdaz]

sh*t, man imagine that.
need to see it to believe it.

you reckon the NOS is connected up in the TB spacer inlet similiar to the design for the P2R TB spacer?

[EUR003act]

sh*t, man imagine that.
need to see it to believe it.

you reckon the NOS is connected up in the TB spacer inlet similiar to the design for the P2R TB spacer?

nah its direct ported... you can see in his pic, it goes directly into each runner...

i dont know how good it would go, i mean, if i had a nos euro putting down 140 without the gas, id definately be getting dynos with the gas down and posting that on the sale...

i just like to see proof to back these kinda things up :p

itd be like me not dynoing my euro after my K20 head build... WHICH HAPPENED TO ARRIVE TODAY!!!!! :D :D :D :D

[CL9R]

i think people can't really feel the vtec point on the cl9 compared to the dc5 is because 1, cl9 got more aggressive lower cams, so not much diffenrence when changing to high cams. 2ndly. the high cam in the cl9 only have the intake and no diffenrence in the excaust cam. correct me if i am wrong

[r-r-redEuro]

i think people can't really feel the vtec point on the cl9 compared to the dc5 is because 1, cl9 got more aggressive lower cams, so not much diffenrence when changing to high cams. 2ndly. the high cam in the cl9 only have the intake and no diffenrence in the excaust cam. correct me if i am wrong

lol, what does that have to do with anything related to the topic about this thread? lol.

but to answer your question im not an expert but cl9 are have different internals to the dc5r since its a k20 with a higher rev limit. :confused::zip:

[EUR003act]

i think people can't really feel the vtec point on the cl9 compared to the dc5 is because 1, cl9 got more aggressive lower cams, so not much diffenrence when changing to high cams. 2ndly. the high cam in the cl9 only have the intake and no diffenrence in the excaust cam. correct me if i am wrong

you are correct about the K20 having smaller primary and secondary lobes on the intake cam than the K24... but the exhaust cam still has primary and secondarys, then a bigger vtec lobe... infact - the K24 has the biggest stock prim / secon / vtec lobes of all the OEM K-series engines :thumbsup:

[aaronng]

but to answer your question im not an expert but cl9 are have different internals to the dc5r since its a k20 with a higher rev limit. :confused::zip:
Definitely will have different internals, because of the different compression ratio (different pistons), stroke (different crankshaft and rods), different cams and valvesprings.