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anyone has info on all the differences between the 2?
like a comparasion list of some sort would be nice...
thx
Nick
r-r-redEuro
08-09-2008, 02:23 AM
cl7 is the euroR and cl9 is the normal euro.
as you know the euroR gets recaros brembos lsd. k20 motor instead of k24.
thats all i can remember off the top of my head
thanks.. but apart from teh obvious... any mojor diff?
anyone has power figures?
i m thinkiin to buy euro R keep it for a yr overseas then i wola.. i can bring it back to aust
r-r-redEuro
08-09-2008, 04:07 AM
power figures cl9 140kw, cl7 i think its 148kw or something.
johnprocter
08-09-2008, 07:06 AM
is the cl7 lighter too?
hooyn
08-09-2008, 08:34 AM
yes it is.
hooyn
08-09-2008, 08:47 AM
heres some brief info i found from google
2002.10 : The enhanced driving performance Honda Accord Euro R (CL7) was launched. The Honda Accord Euro-R is powered by the K20A 2.0liter DOHC i-VTEC engine that makes 220 horsepower and 21.0kg-m of torque. The Honda Accord Euro R adopts the lightweight 6-speed manual transmission that offers highly responsive performance. An exterior design with accentuated sportiness throughout, including aeroform bumpers, honeycomb mesh front grill, and 17-inch aluminum wheels. Also, springs, anti-sway bars, and bushings are firmer, and shock absorbers have been tuned for optimum damping.
Main Equipment : Driver & front passenger SRS airbag system, ABS with EBD, a high mounted stop lamp, full auto air conditioner, key less entry system, EPS, immobilizer, power window, aeroform bumpers, foglihgts, HID headlights.
Exclusive Euro-R Equipment : clutch start system, RECARO front bucket seats, a MOMO leather wrapped steering wheel, an aluminum shift knob & pedals, technical-metal type console, black-out headlights, titanium colored back lens, dark-chrome plating door handles, a sports grill, light weight fly wheel, LSD, sports suspension.
and some more specs.
Model Accord Euro edit*** accord euro R
Vehicles Form LA-CL7
Length/Width/Height (mm) 4665 x 1760 x 1450
Indoorsize Length/Width/Height (mm) 1940 x 1485 x 1185
Wheel Base (mm) 2670
Track (FR/RR) 1515/1515
Weight (kg) ~~
Engine Form K24A
Engine Type L4 DOHC VTEC
Displacement (cc) 2.4L
Horsepower (kW [PS]/rpm) 162[220]/8000
Torque (Nm [kgm]/rpm) 206[21.0]/6000
Fuel capacity (liter) 60
Transmission 6MT
Brakes (Fr / Rr) V-Discs/Discs
Tyres (Fr / Rr) 215/45R17
BusterSonic12
08-09-2008, 08:55 AM
cl7 is the euroR and cl9 is the normal euro.
as you know the euroR gets recaros brembos lsd. k20 motor instead of k24.
thats all i can remember off the top of my head
I don't think they have brembos
EuroR is like a dc5R spec in a different shell. Looks fkn awesome!! it looks stylish & sporty. One of my favorite car in all time.
aaronng
08-09-2008, 08:55 AM
CL7 can also mean base model 2.0L Euro, with only 118kW. hahaha.
Difference between EuroR and CL9 is:
Power: EuroR has 162kW, CL9 has 140-147kw depending on country.
EuroR has shorter gear ratios and LSD.
EuroR has Recaro seats, Momo steering wheel, metal pedals, metal knob, red instruments and no chrome around the windows and grill.
EuroR has 215/45 R17 tyres.
Euro08Jaz
08-09-2008, 02:21 PM
i always thought it was kind of stupid to lets say try and upgrade an integra to a type r variant, but here i am with a euro trying to get it 2 type r spec, is it worth it? does the k24a3 have enough potential? the thing i like about lets say the dc5c is that when your not using the power its very economical, is there a way to mod my engine in such a way that i have power when i want to use it?
lol not hijacking just discussing the feasibility of importing a car or up spec'ing.
Ken-f
08-09-2008, 02:28 PM
Would that mean the EuroR is more efficient because its 2.0? Or is it smaller, but working harder?
Chris_F
08-09-2008, 02:31 PM
is the cl7 lighter too?
yes it is.
no it's not :p
euroR = 1390kg which is actually heavier than the quoted kerb weight for a standard 03-05 CL9.
Why not just buy an 06 euro sport? You get the euroR kit and with a few engine modifcations you'll be making just as much power as the euroR's k20 (but with more torque)
viper8548
08-09-2008, 02:48 PM
no it's not :p
euroR = 1390kg which is actually heavier than the quoted kerb weight for a standard 03-05 CL9.
Why not just buy an 06 euro sport? You get the euroR kit and with a few engine modifcations you'll be making just as much power as the euroR's k20 (but with more torque)
lol k20 revs higher! :cool:
aaronng
08-09-2008, 04:55 PM
no it's not :p
euroR = 1390kg which is actually heavier than the quoted kerb weight for a standard 03-05 CL9.
Why not just buy an 06 euro sport? You get the euroR kit and with a few engine modifcations you'll be making just as much power as the euroR's k20 (but with more torque)
My 04 CL9 base model has a kerb weight of 1390kg.
Euro08Jaz
08-09-2008, 05:53 PM
Would that mean the EuroR is more efficient because its 2.0? Or is it smaller, but working harder?
i would say so
Chris_F
08-09-2008, 06:44 PM
My 04 CL9 base model has a kerb weight of 1390kg.
Seems as though I was looking at the tare weight (kerb weight minus fluids?)
check out a PDF version of the original brochure for the 03-05
http://www.hornsbyhonda.com.au/downloads/specs/5.pdf
hooyn
08-09-2008, 07:05 PM
no it's not :p
euroR = 1390kg which is actually heavier than the quoted kerb weight for a standard 03-05 CL9.
Why not just buy an 06 euro sport? You get the euroR kit and with a few engine modifcations you'll be making just as much power as the euroR's k20 (but with more torque)
lol awww :( i thought it would be since its R.
Chris_F
08-09-2008, 08:34 PM
lol awww :( i thought it would be since its R.
you would think so hey?
I guess that's why they call it euroR and not accord type R :p
aaronng
08-09-2008, 08:57 PM
you would think so hey?
I guess that's why they call it euroR and not accord type R :p
Yeah, the Japanese never intended the EuroR to be a real Type R. Hence it doesn't have thinner windscreen, additional spot welding or extra bracing like the DC2R and DC5R. That's also a reason why the EuroR came standard with climate control and a CD player.
Now Honda UK on the other hand... they love to "Type R this" and "Type R that". Makes good brand marketing. Hence they had the Accord Type R and now the FN2R.
no it's not :p
euroR = 1390kg which is actually heavier than the quoted kerb weight for a standard 03-05 CL9.
Why not just buy an 06 euro sport? You get the euroR kit and with a few engine modifcations you'll be making just as much power as the euroR's k20 (but with more torque)
reason is... i m overseas.. and will be here for a while... getting EuroR and nomal euro does not have much diff price wise... so y not...
aaronng
08-09-2008, 10:15 PM
reason is... i m overseas.. and will be here for a while... getting EuroR and nomal euro does not have much diff price wise... so y not...
No one will envy your EuroR when you come back. FD2R on the other hand..... :p
johnprocter
09-09-2008, 06:54 AM
do it and sell it !!
Chris_F
09-09-2008, 09:10 AM
Hell yea, go the Fd2R, that's a real type R
but FD is another 20k AUD on top...
aaronng
11-09-2008, 05:58 AM
but FD is another 20k AUD on top...
Buy used.
blk05gli
11-09-2008, 11:18 AM
there is also the FD2RR, hehehehe
clicky (http://mivek4doddle.blogspot.com/2008/01/tokyo-auto-salon-2008-mugen-rr-honda.html)
BusterSonic12
11-09-2008, 12:23 PM
there is also the FD2RR, hehehehe
clicky (http://mivek4doddle.blogspot.com/2008/01/tokyo-auto-salon-2008-mugen-rr-honda.html)
FD2RR? isn't that just the mugen RR? there were only limited made? 300 or something? i remember reading somewhere that they were sold in 10min.
Type R Positive
11-09-2008, 12:27 PM
I'd be in a FD2R so quick if they brought them out here......
Bloody poxy hatch backs.
johnnyofhk
12-09-2008, 11:04 AM
I'd be in a FD2R so quick if they brought them out here......
Bloody poxy hatch backs.
did anyone import fd2r from jap? i never seen one on street
Type R Positive
12-09-2008, 11:10 AM
did anyone import fd2r from jap? i never seen one on streetNo. Not that I have heard.
Accord Basic
12-09-2008, 11:29 AM
Hi, if you want to import a EURO R from oversea. I would prefer to import the Mugen RR. Light weigth modified and Mugen tuned engine from Type R. And you will have the UNI car in Australia also can sell it very good price after you left the country.
EURO R, not worthy to doing that. If you don't need a medium size car for your family. go for Mugen RR.
just a suggestion. :D
Type R Positive
12-09-2008, 11:40 AM
Good luck getting your hands on a Mugen RR........
All 300 of them sold out in 10 minutes. They cost about $56k Aussie new.
Good luck getting your hands on a Mugen RR........
All 300 of them sold out in 10 minutes. They cost about $56k Aussie new.
I'm sure you still can get your hand on Mugen RR from Japanese Importer. I have seen Mugen RR with my own eyes in one of the importer store recently in Indonesia but yet again it's bloody expensive here cost around 100k Aud. Twice the price of FD2, so much for extra 15 hp. I think it will cost more than Aud 60k to arrive in OZ
Type R Positive
12-09-2008, 12:46 PM
Fd2r ftw....
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