Are EP3R Headers >/= JDM DC5R Headers???

[EL_DC5]

I want to know if JDM DC5R Header are the same as EP3R ones.
Or what are the differences:confused:

[EL_DC5]

23 people read no one posts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nepolian]

Here, Ill have a dig.!

I've only heard that the only diff between the JDM DC5 and EP3 are tune and header design in the 5ps difference. My guess would be that there are very minor differences and the difference would not be noticeable.

What I do know is that when I changed mine, the EP3 ones were better in size and design that the X-Force one that was fitted to my brothers DC5R.

[EL_DC5]

thanks man.
I want to know if there is an actual size, length or material grade difference

[Nepolian]

thanks man.
I want to know if there is an actual size, length or material grade difference


I'd say it'd be made from the same stuff, which to me seems like its actually stainless or some decent grade steel, its not cast! Design is 4-2-1 and to use the EP or Toda etc you'll need EP3 Sway bar for clearance.

Can be easily modded to fit by local exhaust shop!

[EL_DC5]

I'd say it'd be made from the same stuff, which to me seems like its actually stainless or some decent grade steel, its not cast! Design is 4-2-1 and to use the EP or Toda etc you'll need EP3 Sway bar for clearance.

Can be easily modded to fit by local exhaust shop!

Did you notice a big jump in power when you got your toda ones installed

[Nepolian]

Did you notice a big jump in power when you got your toda ones installed

To be honest.....not really. But having said that the TODAs are suppose to give a little more response and midrange. Unfortunately I did not do a dyno compare, but I have seen others (DC5R) put on about 3-4 kw from headers!

Having said all that, these JDM headers are as good as some aftermarket ones! So the gains from the TODA would not have been as much as say a DC5R/S would have.....if that makes sense!

[EL_DC5]

no can you make more sense of it!! LOL

[45SET]

I noticed more midrange and top end when I put JDM DC5r 4-2-1 headers on my car.

I have no dyno graph of before/after.

[Nepolian]

To be honest.....not really. But having said that the TODAs are suppose to give a little more response and midrange. Unfortunately I did not do a dyno compare, but I have seen others (DC5R) put on about 3-4 kw from headers!

Having said all that, these JDM headers are as good as some aftermarket ones! So the gains from the TODA would not have been as much as say a DC5R/S would have.....if that makes sense!


no can you make more sense of it!! LOL

JDM K20 headers is better than AUDM K20 header!

Toda header is good!

Therefore when the JDM header is replaced by Toda (or any other header for that matter), the gain is less when compared to a AUDM header as they're not as good to start with!

Toda>JDM>AUDM

Its late and thats the best I can do!

[EL_DC5]

I get you now ! thanks Bro!!!

are you Phil BTW ???

[prusso]

jdm headers improved my mid range
def worth the money
really good design and bang for buck
yet to dyno the car but i can feel it easily

[Nepolian]

I get you now ! thanks Bro!!!

are you Phil BTW ???

No :p

[blk_shadow]

in this case, that means that I can buy EP3R headers and bolt it straight on to AUDM DC5R with an EP3R swaybar?

[r3ckless]

Im pretty sure 45set can cover this, as he made the move from AUDM -> JDM -> Toda header.

[45SET]

Huh... what am I covering?

AUDM DC5R headers = crap
JDM DC5R headers = good
Toda DC5R headers = the shit

Basically you get what you pay for... and with the Todas being about 4 times more expensive then used JDM DC5R headers, you expect them to be much better.

As for if EP3R headers fit on a DC5R... I don't know.

PS... this thread is 2 years old...

[blk_shadow]

cos if ep3r 2-1 + cat section is the same, i'll be using this instead. finding jdm dc5r one is so hard.

i've been looking at the type R books from Japan and comparing them, they look like they have the same design.

[45SET]

Go on Yahoo JPN, you'll be able to find what you are looking for there. You could also use a spoon 2-1-cat part if you can't find the OEM item.

[blk_shadow]

i would if the spoon ones has cat,but it has a resonator instead.

[Timmy_B]

JDM headers = good Bang for Buck improvment.

[PeppeX]

So let me get this straight. An aftermarket header (Toda, Buddyclub) is probably not a money wise upgrade as the JDM EP3R header is already well designed?

[blk_shadow]

So let me get this straight. An aftermarket header (Toda, Buddyclub) is probably not a money wise upgrade as the JDM EP3R header is already well designed?

I'm using an EP3R header now on my DC5R, I can hardly notice the difference. I've bought Mugen header+cat, will see the difference once its installed.

[PeppeX]

Ok sweet let us know :)