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Tu88y
18-09-2008, 06:50 AM
Here is the list of legal learners for NSW list is as off 05/08/08

link below
http://163.189.7.150/licensing/tests/motorcycleridertrainingscheme/motorcyclesnoviceriders.html



Eligible Motorcycles in the category 0-260ml.
All models with the exception of:
Suzuki RGV250
Kawasaki KR250 (KR-1 and KR1s models)
Honda NSR250
Yamaha TZR250
Aprila RS250

Eligible Motorcycles in the category 261 - 660ml
AJS
MODEL 18
MODEL 30

APRILA
MOTO 6.5
PEGASO 650
PEGASO 650 I.E.
RXV 450
RXV 550
SXV 450
SXV 550

ARIEL
HUNTMASTER
RED HUNTER 350
RED HUNTER 500

BENELLI
Velvet 400

BLTACO
SHERPA

BMW
F650
F650CS
F650GD
F650GS
F650ST
R50
R60
R60/5
R60/6
R65
R69

BSA
B33
B50SS GOLDSTAR
EMPIRESTAR
GOLD STAR
GOLDEN FLASH
LIGHTNING
SPITFIRE MKIII
THUNDERBOLT

CAGIVA
410TE
610TE
610TE-E
CANYON 500
CANYON 600
RIVER 600
W16 600

COSSACK
650

DNEPER
K650

DOUG
350

DUCATI
400 SS JUNIOR
DM450
DM500
M620ie (24kw LITE)
SL 500 PANTAH
SL 600 PANTAH

ENFIELD
BULLET DELUXE
BULLET ELECTRA
BULLET 65
BULLET CLASSIC
TAURUS

GASGAS
EC300
EC400
FSE450
FSE500
FSE400
Pamera450
SM400
SUPERMOTARD

GILERA
NEXUS
FUOCO

HARLEY
SS350

HONDA
600V TRANSALP
BROS
CB350
CB350F
CB400
CB400F
CB400N
CB400T
CB500
CB650
CRF450
CX500
GB400 **
GB500 **
NT650v DEAUVILLE
NX650
FT500
REVERE
RVF400
SHADOW
SILVERWING
SL350
VF400F
VT500
VT600C
XBR500
XL350
XL500
XL600
XL650 vTRANSALP
XR350
XR350R
XR400M
XR400R
XR500
XR600
XR600R
XR650L

HUSABERG
FE(ENDURO)4E8
FE(ENDURO)5E8
FE(ENDURO)7E8
FE400
FE450
FE501
FE550
FE600
FE650
FS450
FS650

HUSQVANA
350TE
400TE
410TE
430WR
510TE
610TE
610TE-E
SM450ie
SM450R
SM510ie
SM510R
SM 610
TE450ie
TE510ie
TE610

HYOSUNG
COMET GT650L
GV650L
GT650SL
GT650RL

INDIAN
741 STOUT

IZH
Jupiter 350

JAWA
350

KAWASAKI
EN450
ER500A
ER500C
EX400
EX500A
KL600
KL650A
KL650B
KL650C
KL650E
KLE500A
KLR 650
KLX300B
KLX400B
KLX450A
KLX650B
KLX650C
KZ400
KZ440
KZ500
KZ550
LTD440
Z600A
Z650B
ZR550B
Z500

KTM
625 SMC
660 SMC
EXC450
EXC SERIES 300
EXC SERIES 360
EXC SERIES 380
EXC SERIES 400
EXC SERIES 510
EXC SERIES 525
GS SERIES 300
GS SERIES 400
GS SERIES 450
GS SERIES 500
GS SERIES 550
GS SERIES 600
LC4 SERIES 300
LC4 SERIES 400
LC4 SERIES 500
LC4 SERIES 540
LC4 SERIES 550
LC4 SERIES 600
LC4 SERIES 625
LC4 SERIES 650

LAVERDA
500

MAICO
500

MATCHLESS
600
650
G80 MAJOR

MONTESSA
COTA

MORINI
350 SPORT
500 STRADA
500W

MOTO GUZZI
V35
V50
V65

MUZ
BAGHIRA 660
SCORPION REPLICA
SKORPION SPORT
SKORPION TOUR

MVAUGUSTA
350

MZ
ETZ250

NORTON
50
DOMINATOR
ES2
MODEL 88
PANTHER 600
650

PEUGEOT
Geopolis 400cc
Satelis 500cc

PIAGGIO
MP3 400
X9 500

XEVO
400

RICKMAN
650

ROYAL ENFIELD
650
Bullet 500
Lightning 500
Bullet 350
Diesel 324

RUDGEWHITHWORTH
650
Ulster

SUZUKI
AN400
AN650
DR350
DR350S
DR500
DR600R
DR650R
DR650RE
DR650RL
DR650RSL
DR650SE
DR-Z400E
GR650
GS450E
GS450S
GS450SX
GS500
GS500E
GS500K
GS550
GSX400E
GSX400F
LS650
RE5
XF650

TM
300 ENDURO
TM300
TM400

TRIUMPH
BONNEVILLE 650
SPEEDTWIN
T100 TIGER
T100R DAYTONA 500
THUNDERBIRD 650
TROPHY 500
TROPHY 650
TRW25
URAL 650

VELOCETTE
MAC 350
MSS 500
VENOM

VOR
400 ENDURO
450 ENDURO
500 ENDURO
530 ENDURO

YAMAHA
RD400
RT350
SR500
SRX600
SZR660
TT350
TT600
TT600E
TT600R
TX650
WR400F
WR426F
WR450
XJ550
XJ650
XJR400
XP500
XS400
XS650
XT225
XT350
XT500
XT550
XT600
XT660R
XT660X
XTZ660
XV535
XVS650
XVS650A
XZ550
YP 400
krogoth
18-09-2008, 04:25 PM
hmmmmmmmmm, very interesting

im reading names of some bike manufacturers that were huge decades ago

had no idea they are even still making bikes

velocette is ancient........
Feverpitched
20-09-2008, 05:15 AM
LAMS approved list, Victoria (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rdonlyres/86E6A9AB-1633-4E4B-8790-BFF74DF03487/0/LAMSlistpublishedWeb31July08.pdf)

LAMS approved list, South Australia (http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/educational/training/ridersafe/index.asp)
Nax
22-09-2008, 09:55 AM
this list is basically the same for all states now (cept i think vic has somethin a bit diff) but thats the same list the SA site has so...
Zdster
22-09-2008, 10:19 AM
I believe Queensland also has a different system.
splash1
23-02-2009, 08:50 AM
is this list the same for provisional riders?
Tu88y
23-02-2009, 10:16 AM
List applies for Learners and Provisional riders
RoNi_SiZe
03-03-2009, 03:55 PM
U know what really annoys me about this whole LAMS thing?

No1 knows the official penalties for breaking LAMS restrictions. This is the same for NSW & VIC @ least. I don't even think VicRoads or RTA knows.

So what? The coppa in charge just dicks u w/ wateva the hell he wants? Or there isn't a penalty? That'll be sweet wouldn't it...

2 months later: no response...
Crapdaz
27-05-2009, 03:46 PM
So what?
What's a good bike for a starter bike?
I was going to go for CBR250 but doesnt seem like it's on the list.

Isn't it suppose to be within the range of 0-660ml?
Twincam16
27-05-2009, 05:22 PM
CBR250's are definetly on the list, only reason it's not there is because all <260cc are LAM approved (a few exceptions). And correct, must be 0-660ml and have a power to weight ratio of <150kw/tonne.

For LAM choice, ask yourself;

1 - What's your budget (taking into account you will need the minimum helmet, gloves, jacket and neck warmer in winter)
2 - Will you be on the new provisional scheme which will mean you have a restricted bike for over 3 years?
3 - How will you be using the bike and how often? To and from work? Daily? Long distances?

etc etc

See this thread for more info on LAM bikes - http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95300
Crapdaz
28-05-2009, 08:21 AM
CBR250's are definetly on the list, only reason it's not there is because all <260cc are LAM approved (a few exceptions). And correct, must be 0-660ml and have a power to weight ratio of <150kw/tonne.

For LAM choice, ask yourself;

1 - What's your budget (taking into account you will need the minimum helmet, gloves, jacket and neck warmer in winter)
2 - Will you be on the new provisional scheme which will mean you have a restricted bike for over 3 years?
3 - How will you be using the bike and how often? To and from work? Daily? Long distances?

etc etc

See this thread for more info on LAM bikes - http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95300

Thanks twin.
Budget is not an issue but preferably in the 5-7k region which would either be a 2nd hand cbr250 or even cbr125 for cheap sake.

2 - regards to provisional scheme does that make a difference to if you already have an FULLS australian drivers licence? I thought i read that you can be exempt if you hold one. Correct me if i am wrong please? But you still need to do the P's training and test but will go straight onto full.

3 - yes, to and from work will be most likely travelling 1hr each way as a daily.

What would you suggest?
and what's the best step in taking on for a license?
e.g Do the training course and get the cert, then go to RTA and do the L's; then buy the bike?
lookingforboost
28-05-2009, 10:47 AM
mine isnt on the list, but its registered under the VFR400F :P its a VFR400RR though he he
Twincam16
28-05-2009, 05:46 PM
Budget is not an issue but preferably in the 5-7k region which would either be a 2nd hand cbr250 or even cbr125 for cheap sake.
Well if your after a sports, check out an RVF400, LAMS approved, awesome bike and will retain its value. You can def find them in that price bracket if you look hard enough. Dont spend that much on a CBR250...


2 - regards to provisional scheme does that make a difference to if you already have an FULLS australian drivers licence? I thought i read that you can be exempt if you hold one. Correct me if i am wrong please? But you still need to do the P's training and test but will go straight onto full.

You can check this thread (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108819) for any info on the new P plate laws. If you are turning 25, you will only need to do your P's up to that date (as long as your full license holder) and then you can go and get un-restricted. If you are over 25 you only need to do 1 year of P reds. If you are over 30, AFAIK only L's need to be done


3 - yes, to and from work will be most likely travelling 1hr each way as a daily. What would you suggest?
and what's the best step in taking on for a license?
e.g Do the training course and get the cert, then go to RTA and do the L's; then buy the bike?
SB's will be bit harsh on the arms, neck and back after a while, but depends on your height, im 6 ft 2 and ive got a bad back, but long rides dont phase me much. Everyone is different though. And I wouldnt commit myself to buying a bike before I got my L's, id use that time im waiting for the training course to find a bike. Nothing worse that making a rush decision because you are too keen to ride... and you end up with a shitter. Take somebody that is experienced in riding along with you and if you cant do that, get a mech to look over it, or search the forums for issues and things to look out for when buying a bike.
Crapdaz
29-05-2009, 07:40 AM
Cheers, for that.

Yeh i don't agree on a bike with quite bit of mileage on it and still at that range. Should only be about 2-3k by then.

No i am only 5'8 so shouldn't be too much of a hassle and the P's issue i will be 25 next yr so not that long.

yeh RVF400 might be the way to go and just take it easy first few months.
rpm boy
05-11-2009, 11:42 AM
Im getting my Bike license in the next couple weeks and i want the Ducati600ss ... Im a sucker for the L twin but theres not that many around, anyone know the prices on a service for a ducati?
danb18c
22-01-2010, 06:04 PM
You also forgot one more bike that just released the Yamaha YZFR125
danb18c
30-04-2010, 09:25 PM
And also the new suzuki gladius LAM approved
gReY-oNe
26-05-2010, 09:56 AM
You can check this thread (http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=108819) for any info on the new P plate laws. If you are turning 25, you will only need to do your P's up to that date (as long as your full license holder) and then you can go and get un-restricted. If you are over 25 you only need to do 1 year of P reds. If you are over 30, AFAIK only L's need to be done



im goin for my l in about 2 weeks time.. turning 25 at the end of the year.. so after i get me L n 3 months later i go for my p, when i turn 25 i can go to unrestricted licence straight away or i stil have to stay on my red for 1 yr?