PDA

View Full Version : Auto To Manual Conversion



Civlic06
18-09-2008, 08:56 AM
Hey guys, ive looked all over the forums and cannot see much about transmission conversions. I was wondering if it was worth my time doing a full auto to manual conversion on a 96 EK1 and if so exactly what parts would i need.


I also have plans for in the future to drop a B16A into it and run boost. if you could suggest any shortcuts or easy way around this that would be fantastic.

minhkore
18-09-2008, 08:59 AM
why not just buy a b16a manual frontcut? comes with everything from the seats to the front of the bonnet.

Zdster
18-09-2008, 09:29 AM
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff77/u416047/search.gif

minhkore
18-09-2008, 09:33 AM
hahah

Civlic06
18-09-2008, 09:39 AM
what part of "ive looked all over the forums" dont you see fit to mean ive searched?

Zdster
18-09-2008, 10:10 AM
Your right, I apologise. Couldnt find any at all when I searched.













:o






















































http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89715&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87537&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86793&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51356&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=83306&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74977&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73513&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73345&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46415&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=57750&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48142&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46907&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34296&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34059&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29142&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28533&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26990&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23159&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22709&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19252&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18450&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13138&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3145&highlight=auto+manual+conversion
http://ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20208&highlight=auto+manual+conversion

Civlic06
18-09-2008, 10:26 AM
Thanks mate, that was all that was needed to say

Q_ball
18-09-2008, 10:29 AM
LOL, its a harsh way to say it... but Zdster is right.
Search in future :)

You have an atuo ek1 - that you plan on transplanting with a b16a in the future,
My 2c says that you dismiss the idea of doing a manual conversion on your D series.
Not worth the time and hassle.
If you're really wanting a manual car prior to getting this b16a FI setup, then sell your car off, and buy a manual ek1 - but even then i rekon its pretty stupid.

Just live with ur auto until you can get the b16a conversion.

Civlic06
18-09-2008, 10:40 AM
thats what i was wanting to do Q ball but I dont quite understand how it all works yet, sorry for the inconvienance i have caused.

LiKPiC
18-09-2008, 10:40 AM
agreed.
wait until you do your engine conversion, and you can do the manual conversion at the same time (you'll be changing the gearbox anyways)

or
sell your car and buy a vtir

D series manual is....well, it's still a D series in the end.

Q_ball
18-09-2008, 10:46 AM
thats what i was wanting to do Q ball but I dont quite understand how it all works yet, sorry for the inconvienance i have caused.

Dont stress it mate :)
Some of us older members are just grumps thats all haha.

Civlic06
18-09-2008, 12:30 PM
no worries, im gonna do a full engine swap to a b16A (if they can use a Power FC) and then manual it later. but what parts exactly do i need, i know gearbox clutch but what else does it take?

CB7_OWNER
18-09-2008, 12:45 PM
Much easier if you bought a Ek4 to start of with....=) Than all you would have to do is the turbo bit =)

barefootbonzai
18-09-2008, 01:11 PM
no worries, im gonna do a full engine swap to a b16A (if they can use a Power FC) and then manual it later. but what parts exactly do i need, i know gearbox clutch but what else does it take?

did you actually read any of them links?

You can't just swap in a b16 motor, you need a b-series gearbox as well, hence it should be done at the same time.

Since you seem clueless, your best bet to save time, money and headaches sell your car and buy an EK4(VTiR) as someone has already mentioned earlier.

Q_ball
18-09-2008, 02:24 PM
did you actually read any of them links?

I doubt it lol,

To the OP, read those links that have been provided.. they give you a better understanding as to whats going on/whats required.

And as barefootbonzai has stated, B series gb is NOT compatible with a D series box.
Thats why i suggest u just stick with an auto until you can get a b16a+gb combo to transplant.
No point doing a manual conversion now as that would be a massive waste of money.

Civlic06
18-09-2008, 08:13 PM
I still dont see why you are all conviced that im doing my transmission conversion to a D style motor and not the B???? its been covered and now can be closed if no body can give me the time for a simple question.

taks
18-09-2008, 09:21 PM
Dude...take the time to read the links Zdster KINDLY posted for you...
I've looked through some and they clearly have the answer that you are after but i am too "lazy" to post the direct link for you.
Take the time to read through the links (takes 2mins) and stop wanting info to be spoon fed...this ain't highschool.

MikeyG
18-09-2008, 09:29 PM
i think what his trying to say... is.... he isnt doing a manual conversion to his D series now..... his saving for the b series..... as in the whole engine conversion gearbox,wiring,loom,harness the lot.. jesus christ.. u guys... u say READ THIS n READ THAT... fukin did u read what his saying?? i dont think so.. get off his fukin back and fukin help him fuk sake thats why its a forum...

Civlic06
19-09-2008, 03:39 PM
i think what his trying to say... is.... he isnt doing a manual conversion to his D series now..... his saving for the b series..... as in the whole engine conversion gearbox,wiring,loom,harness the lot.. jesus christ.. u guys... u say READ THIS n READ THAT... fukin did u read what his saying?? i dont think so.. get off his fukin back and fukin help him fuk sake thats why its a forum...

OMG you hit it in a nutshell :) thankfully there is one person that can read.

Q_ball
19-09-2008, 04:02 PM
You know why there's this confusion Civlic06...
You said this in one of your prior posts...


no worries, im gonna do a full engine swap to a b16A (if they can use a Power FC) and then manual it later. but what parts exactly do i need, i know gearbox clutch but what else does it take?

Which implies that you're gonna buy a b16a motor with no gb, use ur current auto D box, AND THEN manual the b16a later...
Which doesnt make a lot of sense.

Barefoot has summarised how your post was interpretted by the majority quite well.

Answer this, how do you plan on converting to a b16a... keeping it auto.... AND THEN "manual it later"??

Civlic06
19-09-2008, 04:11 PM
right well not being good at english made that mistake there... basically lets put it this way.

A) i want to now buy a Half Cut from a Manual EG Civic
B) i Want to turbo it
C) i was wanting to know a rough cost of this plus the labour.


Origionally i was wanting to know how much it was going to cost for just an auto to man conversion but have decided to go for a full engine swap instead.

Q_ball
19-09-2008, 04:17 PM
... Im not following,

So now you're after a manual EG civic 1/2 cut to boost - not a b16a?

I know some b16s came in the EG series, but you're most likely going to find them in ek4's and em1s here in aust.

Majority of your EG 1/2 cuts will be D series or Carbies.

Civlic06
19-09-2008, 04:23 PM
well thnx for that information

i rang SSS automotive and asked them if they had any EG half fronts and they said that they wer b16As.


Q i came to the forum for help, could you please give me a hand in telling me exactly what i need, i dont want to sell my car i want to swap the motor, and then run boost

im some what confused and i believe mis leaded in saying that i may not have read or been told the exact info properly when i was researching what i wanted.

so my question is, in what front cut can i find a B16a or b to fit my EK1?

MikeyG
19-09-2008, 04:52 PM
with SSS the eg's might be eg6 which have b16 in them.

theres really no front that u cant put in..

ek4=b16a2
ek9=b16b
eg6=b16a (jdm 170hp than ausdm 160hp b16a
dc2 vtir=b18c
dc2r=b18c7 (ausdm)
dc2r=b18cr (jdm)

those are the egines u can put in ur car...

aswell as k20/k24 also f20c from s2000 but need more money to make it rear wheel.

and civlic06... u can put any engine into any car.. if u have the money u can do anything dude.. theres alot of info here .. every trys their best to help with questions but just that threads like this have been covered a million times and the old school people get annoyed thats all... but they are very helpfull.. good luck with everything..

SSS have frontcuts
GPY in yenora have front cuts ( speak with charlie)

and in the for sale thread.. theres ppl selling b16a conversion parts... meaning all parts nesscessary to do a engine conversion

Civlic06
19-09-2008, 05:58 PM
MIKEY! Thanks heaps mate, ive added u to my msn, hopefully you might be able to help me out along the way :) thanks again champ

MikeyG
19-09-2008, 06:08 PM
no problem dude, all the best.. keep us posted so we know whats going on and can help you futher more :)

Limbo
19-09-2008, 06:11 PM
Its easier to start with a similar model if its the first conversion, less mods to do.
a b16a out of an ek4 would be good if you can get your hands on it.

Just try not to get one with the cable clutch in some egs

MikeyG
19-09-2008, 06:13 PM
whats wrong with cable clutch Limbo?

fatboyz39
20-09-2008, 02:12 PM
EK are a hydro gearbox setup. The cable clutch gearbox setup will be useless and will need to source for hydro clutch and gearbox.

For a auto to manual you'll need the following> ECU, manual box, shift linkage, clutch, flywheel, mayb driveshafts, pedal assembly.

Civlic06
20-09-2008, 02:20 PM
EK are a hydro gearbox setup. The cable clutch gearbox setup will be useless and will need to source for hydro clutch and gearbox.

For a auto to manual you'll need the following> ECU, manual box, shift linkage, clutch, flywheel, mayb driveshafts, pedal assembly.

thanks for the list champion. if i did end up getting a half cut, persumably that would all come in it, correct?

MikeyG
21-09-2008, 10:24 PM
yes... everything u need...