Lowering a 94 Accord

[Hu$TLeRz_aMBiTiONz]

Supp all

Just bought a 94 manual accord VTi and its been lowered with king springs but it still sits too high 4 me..

just wondering what's available for the accords and where to get it?
also whats available to improve handling? i had a rex for 4years b4 this so its a big diffrerence

thanx

[Eclipsor]

Have a bit of a search on here. There is plenty of threads on suspension setups available. There are heaps of spring brands available for the accords at different heights etc, koni's with adjustable spring seats and height adjustable full coilover setups. The downside is you will probably have to look in the usa for alot of them.

As far as other suspension upgrades available. You can get swaybar kits (whiteline, suspension techniques etc), bushing kits(prothane, energy suspension etc), alignment adjustment parts (camber, toe, caster) (ingalls, SPC etc), traction bars (only one I've found is explicit speed performance), strut bars (neuspeed, ESP, ebay etc), tie bars. Once again though, the biggest range is available from overseas.

[j.meng87]

Not sure whats the lowered height for kings but you can try "NEUSPEED's Super Cup Kit" it comes with koni yellow which allow about 15mm adjustment up or down and neuspeed springs 2.2"front and 2"rear. This can be order from an aust distributer, pm me for detail if you want them. Otherwise ebay USA is where you can get all aftermarket parts from.

[FAT VTI]

depends on budget mate,
do u want lower springs and new shocks? do you want coilovers? do u want strut braces?

you can spend between $300 (for lower kings or compress ur current ones) or you can buy coilovers up to $1500.

really up to what u want to spend and what u want.

[Element12]

depends on budget mate,
do u want lower springs and new shocks? do you want coilovers? do u want strut braces?

you can spend between $300 (for lower kings or compress ur current ones) or you can buy coilovers up to $1500.

really up to what u want to spend and what u want.

LOL, don't ever compress springs its so bad !

Just save up and buy some Tein SS !

[FAT VTI]

LOL, don't ever compress springs its so bad !

Just save up and buy some Tein SS !

it isnt bad depending on how low they are and how low u want to compress them.

compressing 1.5inch dropped kings to around 2.5 or even 3 isnt bad.
1.5inch tends to be the max to compress, and only once as spring rate is affected.

tein's are excellent IMO.
US vendor- www.titanmotorsports.com

very reliable, talk to eric.

tein basic-bout 1000 give or take
tein superstreet-1300-1400 give or take due to shipping.

[53XDJ]

get coilovers, dont' compromise..
i've got zeal functions coilovers off a seller here and they handle really good.
http://file042b.bebo.com/12/large/2008/10/07/11/6819618908a9080919716l.jpg

[FAT VTI]

looks nice mate, love how it sits even.

Mine's about the same what size wheels and profile is that?

[53XDJ]

18, 35 profile..

[Spoon-Accord]

I agree with boys above, either get some nice coilovers or some joni yellow and king springs super low, they work together, after owning a few accords, compressing springs give you shocking comfort ride and also damage to your car, " do it once and never worry about it again" hope that helps, but pm me if you needs anything

Kenny

[Element12]

I agree with boys above, either get some nice coilovers or some joni yellow and king springs super low, they work together, after owning a few accords, compressing springs give you shocking comfort ride and also damage to your car, " do it once and never worry about it again" hope that helps, but pm me if you needs anything

Kenny

I didn't think king springs made super lows for 94 accords ?

I thought they did only lows ? You can always compress them though :P

[bumper]

Yeah Kings only make lows for our cars. But you can get custom Kings made up.

[b16a man]

I have a set of springs which i am not using anymore. They are custom kmacs. Sat my car low.

I am selling them if you want to buy them


John

[xcwizit]

hey guys, just been to pedders and tyrepower. Kings Springs dont produce any lower than "LOWS" for the 96 Accords.
- At Pedders it will cost me $740 (King Spring Lows)
- At TyrePower Sunshine $300 (King Spring Lows)
It will only drop 1 & 1/2 inch (35mm). I mentioned shaving abit of the "Bump Stops" off, they said they can do it for free and it will lower my car a further 15mm.

Do any of you guys think SHAVING THE BUMP STOPS is a good idea? I mean i want the ride to look good but not too low.. Ill probably tell them to shave off 10mm worth so it aint too low and still has a good look to it.

[Eclipsor]

wtf. If your car is low enough that it is sitting on the bump stops and therefore will lower the car more when you shave them down then you will have shocking handling.

With lows you may hit the bump stops over big bumps, which affects handling, but it won't sit on them. Shaving them back won't make the car lower it will just make sure that you don't hit them as often. So yeah, probably cut them back a little bit but don't expect it to make any difference to the height.

[FAT VTI]

dont shave the bumpstop, thats a stupid idea.
dont pay pedders $740 to do that thats also a stupid idea.

get k-macs if u just want lowered springs, you should know that lowering ur accord more than 1.5inches (more than king lows) will massively increase the affect of shock wear on your stock shocks, which are probably not in the greatest condition after over 150,000kms.

My advice, either get 1.5inch lowered, or if u want it lower then do it properly...upgrade your shocks.

[Nepolian]

Hi guys, this may help you out! I have King lows in mine, but its too low as i carry heavy stuff around. I want to go back to std, if anyone is interested, shoot me a pm.

I'll make it worth while for ya ;)

ps....has only done 8000-10000Kms

[interfooler]

How about KYB-AGX shocks? Is anyone using it on their accords?

[Jarkz]

Anyone on 17's with stock height or slightly lowered?

Could you post pic's?

I just wanna get a feel for 17's on stock & lowered height.

[JohnL]

If you go to Pedder's and hold out your finger, they'll bite it off at the elbow...

[JohnL]

tends to be the max to compress, and only once as spring rate is affected.

My understanding;

is that compressing a spring has no affect on it's rate, regardless of how many times it's done. Even making the spring from a different grade of steel alloy won't affect the spring rate.

The only things that affect spring rate are the diameter of the spring wire and the working the length of that wire (i.e. 'working' meaning metal that deflects under load).

Heating the spring and thus altering the 'temper' of the steel doesn't affect the spring rate but does affect the elastic limit, i.e. if the spring material becomes too soft then it will take on a permanent deformation at a lesser deflection (i.e. sag) than previously (and if a spring is manufactured with a temper that is too hard then it may fracture rather than deflect and spring back, but it's rate prior to failure wil be the same as a softer spring of identical dimensions).

Even if the spring compresses in use (i.e. sags) it's rate remains the same while the ride height lowers. A spring that develops cracks may lose spring rate, but complete fracture will follow soon.

Compressing a spring may make it feel softer if the compression results in the suspension bottoming out more often, which it will because the bump travel is reduced with no change in spring rate. Compressing springs isn't really a good idea, in fact may be worse than cutting them because at least cutting a spring does increase it's rate to some degree and thus tend to bottom out less severely than a spring compressed for the same degree of lowering. Having said that, cutting a spring typically does not increase the rate enough to make up for the decreased travel, so increased bottoming out (frequency / severity) is probably still going to be an issue.

Shorter springs need to be stiffer.

[JohnL]

How about KYB-AGX shocks? Is anyone using it on their accords?

I don't know current prices, and can't recall what I was quoted for the AGX dampers a couple of years ago, but I do remember that the price difference was not enough to make the AGX look good value compared to the more expensive but more respected Konis, especially with a number of accounts of relatively short damper life I heard with regard to the AGX.

I got my Konis for my CB7 for $850 a couple of years ago. They are still perfect despite the corrugated dirt roads around here...

[hoyin3132]

i got a set of coilovers for sale?
Front are tein, Rear are KYB, good condition, import from hong kong
no leak, no damage, gettin wrong for my integra, lookin for 450, if any interest, pm, locatioin in SA

[FAT VTI]

what type of tein?

[aaron182]

will they fit a 94 accord hoyin?

[aaron182]

im in the same boat as OP, so not meaning to threadjack, though ive called kings, pedders and lovells and they only have the 'lows', unless i get customs factory reset springs from them, but no one have given me a round about price.
so if anyone knows who much a set of factory reset springs, or a set of coilovers would be, and where to get them, it would be much appreciated.

[Eclipsor]

Look overseas for more range. neuspeed, skunk2, tein, eibach and heaps more all make springs and "coilovers" for the CD5. AUD has come back a bit against the USD. Worth checking prices. LSD Motorsport is where I usually get stuff from in the USA.

[tmy]

I'm in the middle of purchasing somee Tein SS.

Ill let u know my best price.

[aaron182]

I'm in the middle of purchasing somee Tein SS.

Ill let u know my best price.

are you the bloke who drives the champagne accord? think i seen you at king st maccas he other day?

[FAT VTI]

get k-macs custom made to the height you want them.
better quality than kings anyways, and not as expensive as pedders.

remember if u get lower than the "lows" by kings etc, this will wear your stock shocks alot quicker.

k-macs are about the same $ as kings, fitted.

[aaron182]

how would i go about getting some?
know any distributors?
what set up are you running FAT?
cheers

[JohnL]

Aaron,
Try contacting K-Mac directly through their web site. I'm pretty sure they will sell direct to you (+post). It might be possible to have your favourite parts supplier order them on your behalf (price may include freight?)...

[aaron182]

ill give k-mac a call tomorrow, was just looking on ebay, and i know what the vast majoirty of poeple will say, but has anyone tried these
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/90-93-94-97-HONDA-ACCORD-CD-COILOVER-SUSPENSION-SPRING_W0QQitemZ370192506404QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_ Car_Parts_Accessories?hash=item370192506404&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A1|39%3A1|240%3A1318
?
im thinking maybe giving them a go, and if thweyre no good, its only 150 i guess?
cheers

[FAT VTI]

I wouldnt put those things anywhere near my car.

I'm running tein basic coilovers.

[aaron182]

do you mind if i ask how much the teins set you back, and where you bought them?

[Element12]

It depends on the place you go, because the economy is down prices are up for US and Japan sales.

I think wholesale suspension are even expensive to get them atm.

titanmotorsport.com also supply them.

[FAT VTI]

yeah i got them from titanmotorsport when the exchange rate was about 83c.
set me back around..1000 incl. shipping.

[hoyin3132]

hi all
i know i m in wrong topic
just askin, any1 want a set cheap coilovers?
they r in good condition, just nd it gone, any offer?
pm me

[bumper]

Probably should state what brand, how many kms etc. and maybe a pic to go with.

Also what car they will fit??

[hoyin3132]

fit on cd6
F, tein HA
R, KYB
unkown how many kms,
bought form hong kong
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v3357/227/23/638682463/n638682463_3006187_6662378.jpg
good condition, no leak at all

[aaron182]

how long ago where they purchased approx?

[hoyin3132]

how long ago where they purchased approx?

purchased on december last year, never fit in the car here

[FAT VTI]

how much u asking?

[hoyin3132]

any offers?
just nd it gone
cheers

[aaron182]

thinking about it. . .
would be good if you lived closer ahha
ive probably asked but what are they off?
cheers

[hoyin3132]

off from CD6,
cn orgunise postage for interstate buyer

[Element12]

I'd like to see these, but unfortunately your interstate.

They look pretty well used :P

[interfooler]

Are these lowering springs from Tein any good?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TEIN-STECH-S-TECH-LOWERING-SPRING-HONDA-ACCORD-90-97_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a1Q7c3 9Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50Q Q_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem270369883024QQ itemZ270369883024QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fParts Q5fAccessories

[FAT VTI]

Yeah they are decent springs mate.
only problem with them might be the uneven height, as the fronts are -2 and the rears -1.4

the strut body might be shorter at the rear in cd5s stock suspension, dunno though can't really remember tbh.

[interfooler]

Can I use that with stock shocks?

[FAT VTI]

yes u can.
It will add wear to ur shocks but those springs are not that low so they will be okay to put in stock shocks.

[interfooler]

Yeah they are decent springs mate.
only problem with them might be the uneven height, as the fronts are -2 and the rears -1.4

the strut body might be shorter at the rear in cd5s stock suspension, dunno though can't really remember tbh.

CD5s sit higher at the front don't they? So I guess the Tein springs are designed to make the car sit more even.

How about King springs? I got quoted for about $400 at a local shop for a 2 inch drop all round.

[zillacles]

I have King springs with Koni Yellows all around, feels pretty good though I think the front sits higher than the rear. I'll post some pics later if you want.

[interfooler]

yea if you could post some pics would be great!

[FAT VTI]

I have King springs with Koni Yellows all around, feels pretty good though I think the front sits higher than the rear. I'll post some pics later if you want.

Yeah i'd say ur right, wasn't really thinking when i post that lol.

thats a decent set up, however interfooler, it will be a completely different ride on stock shocks.

Koni's are expensive shocks, and they make a world of difference with aftermarket (lowered) springs.

they are not cheap either, you could prob get some coilover packages (e.g. shock and spring made by same company) for about the same price as that set up.

I think i just don't like king springs .... :p