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Edwardo
10-10-2008, 08:50 AM
Hi guys,

I am looking to swap my d series engine into a b series. particularly a b18c2, would anyone be able to give me a quote? as well as performance gained? would i still be able to have power steering and a/c?

is there any other b series engine i should look at?


or should I be looking at turbo charging the current d16y4? anyone know a good mechanic that can do a flawless job, I am rather concerned that the reliability will drop once a turbo kit is installed.

I am currently looking at a modest power gain from 100hp to somewhere around 150hp to 200hp

I ignored the b16 due to the lack of torque it produces at low revs, been in the city i need something thats going to pull when in low rev, rather then rev the basterd up every time I am driving.

vinnY
10-10-2008, 08:54 AM
quote? depend how much you pickup the motor for and who you know to do the conversion
you'll be able to retain ps and air con(though i'm not sure whether the d series ps and ac pump will bolt up, someone confirm?)

price wise b18c2 is good, unless you got a bit more to go cr/c7
plenty of successful boosted d's but people will tell you to go b anyway
going from your gutless d16y4 to a b18c2 will probably be a world of difference, go for a ride in someones converted b18 civic and see how you like it

Zdster
10-10-2008, 08:55 AM
Hi guys,

I am looking to swap my d series engine into a b series. particularly a b18c2, would anyone be able to give me a quote? as well as performance gained? would i still be able to have power steering and a/c?

is there any other b series engine i should look at?


or should I be looking at turbo charging the current d16y4? anyone know a good mechanic that can do a flawless job, I am rather concerned that the reliability will drop once a turbo kit is installed.

I am currently looking at a modest power gain from 100hp to somewhere around 150hp to 200hp

I ignored the b16 due to the lack of torque it produces at low revs, been in the city i need something thats going to pull when in low rev, rather then rev the basterd up every time I am driving.

Why dont you do some homework and ring some shops yourself rather than relying on people on the forum to do it for you?

I post stating I am located in XX - can someone recommend some good shops would have been better than how much is it going to cost to install XX.

Also, try SEARCHING!
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff77/u416047/search.gif

Edwardo
10-10-2008, 09:04 AM
Why dont you do some homework and ring some shops yourself rather than relying on people on the forum to do it for you?

I post stating I am located in XX - can someone recommend some good shops would have been better than how much is it going to cost to install XX.

Also, try SEARCHING!
http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff77/u416047/search.gif

bloody hell always get someone like you at a forum, its a general question based on everyones experiences, and a ball park figure. You think if i really wanted to go ahead with it in the next month i wont have called or ask for a shop to be recommended? Just because I have a newcomer underneath the name you arrogant basterds always manage to think we haven't done any research.

I have searched, maybe if the searching function on this thing was a bit better I would have found what I need. I have searched on google and ebay as well they mostly all give out US prices.

Also asking around on this forum is a type of searching therefore I am freaking searching

Now if i trusted mechanics around this area I would have just asked.

Edwardo
10-10-2008, 09:10 AM
quote? depend how much you pickup the motor for and who you know to do the conversion
you'll be able to retain ps and air con(though i'm not sure whether the d series ps and ac pump will bolt up, someone confirm?)

price wise b18c2 is good, unless you got a bit more to go cr/c7
plenty of successful boosted d's but people will tell you to go b anyway
going from your gutless d16y4 to a b18c2 will probably be a world of difference, go for a ride in someones converted b18 civic and see how you like it

Thanks mate, its helpful guys like you that make it a better fourm

any idea on a ball park figure?

d15z1SUX
10-10-2008, 09:10 AM
looking at about 5 - 6k roughly i think with labour.

vinnY
10-10-2008, 09:12 AM
yeah i'd say if you get it for under $5k installed you're doing well

whats your location anyhow? i think i've missed it

Edwardo
10-10-2008, 09:13 AM
looking at about 5 - 6k roughly i think with labour.

sweet thanks mate.

2MPRSS
10-10-2008, 09:13 AM
i paid $7000 3 years ago including engineers certificate + front brakes upgraded, if your thinking of wanting more power i suggest you save more money and do it all in 1 go save money on labour and less time wasting and mucking around :)

Edwardo
10-10-2008, 09:14 AM
yeah i'd say if you get it for under $5k installed you're doing well

sweet, now I have a figure to chase up thanks mate.

need to find some decent half cuts.

hurstville area, in sydney

Edwardo
10-10-2008, 09:15 AM
i paid $7000 3 years ago including engineers certificate + front brakes upgraded, if your thinking of wanting more power i suggest you save more money and do it all in 1 go save money on labour and less time wasting and mucking around :)

yeah that did cross my mind, hence the thought about getting the turbo in instead, in order to cut costs. but its a trade off with reliability

2MPRSS
10-10-2008, 09:22 AM
a turbo b series is just like any other turbo engine, just get it tuned proply and dont boost it up without strenthing the engine up, i think you should save a lil more get a good quality turbo kit and find yourself a vti-r engine get it tuned by sumone that knows wat they are doing and if you want more power in the end you make a desicion have a goal and say to your self how much more power do i want? work your ass off save up and do it you wont regret it unless you lose your license being stupid on the road like me

Edwardo
10-10-2008, 09:25 AM
a turbo b series is just like any other turbo engine, just get it tuned proply and dont boost it up without strenthing the engine up, i think you should save a lil more get a good quality turbo kit and find yourself a vti-r engine get it tuned by sumone that knows wat they are doing and if you want more power in the end you make a desicion have a goal and say to your self how much more power do i want? work your ass off save up and do it you wont regret it unless you lose your license being stupid on the road like me

i meant just going for the turbo d series

oh dont worry i already gone past the phase of been a speed deamon in a v8 falcon, unreliable peice of shit never going to a ford or holden again.

2MPRSS
10-10-2008, 09:33 AM
you have a d16y? better of doing a b18c2 conversion then turboing a single cam i dont think its worth it

Zdster
10-10-2008, 09:43 AM
bloody hell always get someone like you at a forum, its a general question based on everyones experiences, and a ball park figure. You think if i really wanted to go ahead with it in the next month i wont have called or ask for a shop to be recommended? Just because I have a newcomer underneath the name you arrogant basterds always manage to think we haven't done any research.

I have searched, maybe if the searching function on this thing was a bit better I would have found what I need. I have searched on google and ebay as well they mostly all give out US prices.

Also asking around on this forum is a type of searching therefore I am freaking searching

Now if i trusted mechanics around this area I would have just asked.

A quick search by me came up with at least half a dozen threads discussing b18c2 conversions and a huge number of turbo conversion discussions.

fatboyz39
10-10-2008, 09:44 AM
Judging by your profile you have a 99 cxi with the D series. Most b18c2 are from 94-98 range. Which technically is illegal to install a older motor into a newer shell.

Best bet would be a b18c7 from a type R.

Q_ball
10-10-2008, 09:50 AM
The cheaper alternative to your power goal which is only 150-200hp, is to turbo ur D.

b18c7 setup will cost ~6-7k.

As fatboyz has pointed out, most c2 motors will be out of an older vtir hence will be illegal to drop into your CXi shell.

For ~5k, you can reach ur power goal and have a reliable daily driver.
You just need to do further research as to what parts to get.

fatboyz39
10-10-2008, 09:51 AM
Turbo + single cam + D = POS

As for 200hp in a D series sinlge cam is abit unrealistic. (i.e stock motor no vtec)

Wace
10-10-2008, 01:43 PM
mmmmm i'd recommend a b20 vtec n if ur willing to sped some cash i'd use itr pistonz, rodz n etc + itr head, should flyy

n i wudnt turbo ur current motor, bad idea

NightKids
10-10-2008, 02:43 PM
Just NOS that shietttttttt

Edwardo
10-10-2008, 02:55 PM
A quick search by me came up with at least half a dozen threads discussing b18c2 conversions and a huge number of turbo conversion discussions.

Well wow, i got the same search result too.

the obvious key word that is missing is COST.

Edwardo
10-10-2008, 02:57 PM
Judging by your profile you have a 99 cxi with the D series. Most b18c2 are from 94-98 range. Which technically is illegal to install a older motor into a newer shell.

Best bet would be a b18c7 from a type R.

yeah I thought that might be the case as well, looked into the type R, its a bit too dear

Edwardo
10-10-2008, 02:59 PM
Just NOS that shietttttttt

lol thought about that too mate.

Edwardo
10-10-2008, 03:04 PM
mmmmm i'd recommend a b20 vtec n if ur willing to sped some cash i'd use itr pistonz, rodz n etc + itr head, should flyy

n i wudnt turbo ur current motor, bad idea

yeah apparently its got weak rods in a d series motor.

the b20 vtec, i was checking out wikipedia, which doesn't include a spec of the b20 with vtec do u know the power in that off the top of ur head

uniorj
10-10-2008, 03:08 PM
yeah I thought that might be the case as well, looked into the type R, its a bit too dear

Maybe just save up abit more and then get the B18C7.

I'm about to drop a B18C2 into my EK4. I'm not sure about prices because it was from a mate but I'd suggest saving up for the B18C7.

Q_ball
10-10-2008, 03:10 PM
a) use the multi-quote feature on the forum, saves you having to post so many times in a row.

b) dont blame the search for not encompassing cost, your thread... THIS thread, does not outline an overall budget for this project.

c) SEARCH for the specs of a b20/ls vtec.

Edwardo
10-10-2008, 03:13 PM
Maybe just save up abit more and then get the B18C7.

I'm about to drop a B18C2 into my EK4. I'm not sure about prices because it was from a mate but I'd suggest saving up for the B18C7.

yeah it looks that way, i really like the look of the ek1 however the handling might change if i drop a b18c7 been a heavier engine right?

Edwardo
10-10-2008, 03:15 PM
a) use the multi-quote feature on the forum, saves you having to post so many times in a row.

b) dont blame the search for not encompassing cost, your thread... THIS thread, does not outline an overall budget for this project.

c) SEARCH for the specs of a b20/ls vtec.


Thanks for tip A

b) its not outlined because i m trying to get a ball park figure

c) posting on the forum is an example of searching for spec but "b20/ls vtec" and not just "b20 vtec" does help

uniorj
10-10-2008, 03:23 PM
yeah it looks that way, i really like the look of the ek1 however the handling might change if i drop a b18c7 been a heavier engine right?

From what I'm aware of the B18C2 and B18C7 wouldn't be much(if any) different in weight. You would have to do a brake upgrade anyway.

vinnY
10-10-2008, 04:11 PM
yeah at least go ek4 brakes if you're gonna drop in a better motor
cxi's should be 242mm front disc and rear drums

handling wise it won't be much different

uniorj
10-10-2008, 06:21 PM
yeah at least go ek4 brakes if you're gonna drop in a better motor
cxi's should be 242mm front disc and rear drums

handling wise it won't be much different

Yuk, rear drums lol.

Yeah, seen EK4 brakes for pretty cheap on this site, not sure if they are still around for as cheap. Check out http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=86292

262mm front rotors for $10

dahon
08-11-2008, 12:39 AM
definately b series over a turbo D... for a daily you'd want that extra torque u get from the b18s instead of having to rev her up all the time.. im also lookin for a engine replacement.. considering the c2 & the c7... depends the ages of the stuff i come across... (that stupid engine/car age thingy)
Q_ball:
that 6-7K figure for the b18c7 would be for all the engine/gearbox/mounts/install? altogether?

uniorj
09-11-2008, 10:07 AM
Yeah, roughly the price to obtain it and get it fully installed into your car, but only a rough figure.