I know how much everyone loves Jap "Coilovers"

http://www.farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets6.html

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JIC, GAB, Tokiko, Tein - synonyms for "crap"

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Discuss.

IMO
1)You get what you pay for, that will never change
2) If every street kid does it, means you should do your own research

Why I don't have coilovers or adjustable anything. Get it right first time.

The problem is that the Japanese brand coilovers are more expensive than more research intensive alternatives, and that people think that because they come packaged together with a spring that they are "perfectly matched". Simple preying on the ignorance of the market.

i think these days people are just after bang for buck.
people that are really serious abt suspension and handlng, wouldnt buy these brands and got straight for the top.

thats why i bought skunk2, and bought non adjustable dampers.

really, i only bought mine for the height adjustable, nothing else

There are many more brands of Jap coilovers not listed

^i notice that to

Showa N1 for life.

I think that the generalisation that all Japanese made 'coilovers' are junk is a little bit extreme. I agree that marketing seems to have convinced everyone that JDM yo coilovers are the goods, however I doubt that coilovers from ASM, Mines or Quantum are junk, although they cheat and use Sachs, and Quantum UK dampers :p.

Personally I would never buy a damper again without seeing a reputable shock dyno, something that is difficult to obtain from many of the Japanese damper manufacturers.

generally, the jap coilovers that people buy (cheaper bracket) are junk. They're either too harsh, lacking finesse or too soft.

Quality coilovers are available from japan, however. Only good experience I have with them is TODA fightex.

The products from germany such as bilstein and kw are in a different league, and not that expensive.

Local DMS is excellent too, slightly more expensive though.

im guessing the op was jdm bashing and being bias as he is a yank
he knows his shit but
most of us are hard parkers lol
and many of those mentioned are not readily available here in oz, to the normal car modifiers
but jdm crap coilovers suffice to many of our road conditions and needs
thats why we buy them cheap and made for our cars
how many people got those mentioned in his post
not many i bet on here

A bit extreme saying they are crap. They still make the car handle better then stock suspension on most. In saying that, I still ended up choosing a set of DMS coilovers :)

Good read, thanks for the link :thumbsup:

Comments? hmm

Suspension really is a dark art in Aus for the average enthusiast. Except in race setups, noone really wants to do the research to find a shock/spring combo that is perfect for their car, and much less do they know how it all works as an entire connected system. And as chargeR said, shock dyno graphs are difficult to get a hold of if you are looking deeper into getting the best setup for your car.

I myself am guilty of this, having bought some off the shelf coilovers for my car - they get the job done, but i am well aware there are better setups out there. I guess it boils down to what you want from your car. Do you want a fun little car, or do you want a laptime smashing warrior? etc

I agree with what lan said - most people just get what is convenient for them, not what might be the most suitable.

All IMO of course :)