'92 Civic Engine Swap (D13B2 to D16Y5)

Hey Guys and Gals,

Looking to do an engine swap from my 92 EG.

It currently has a D13B2 in it and I'm looking at purchasing a D16Y5.

The D13 is Carby and the D16 is OBD-2 MPFI.

I'm wanting to know how hard this conversion will be from a carby to a mpfi.

Also what do I need to complete the conversion.

P.S. I have already searched around and read up on it but I wanted to put my own questions out there.

Thanks,

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Originally Posted by Karlbee92

P.S. I have already searched around and read up on it but I wanted to put my own questions out there.

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OK, I expect some that have never been asked before.

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Originally Posted by Karlbee92

I'm wanting to know how hard this conversion will be from a carby to a mpfi.

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Hard.

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Originally Posted by Karlbee92

Also what do I need to complete the conversion.

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This is not a new question. This has been answered before. Please try harder.
You'll find all you info here. http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=e...c+carby+to+efi

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Originally Posted by Karlbee92

Looking to do an engine swap from my 92 EG.

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OK. Nothing new here. It's been done one zillion times already, both locally and in just about every country in world.

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Originally Posted by Karlbee92

It currently has a D13B2 in it and I'm looking at purchasing a D16Y5.

The D13 is Carby and the D16 is OBD-2 MPFI.

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So it's a Breeze. The 'economy EG' Honda released in the early 90s to counter claims their cars were too expensive for the average consumer. Not many highlights but the chassis is still OK. A reasonable starting point.

My first question is "Why a D16Y5 OBD-II" engine? Has someone given you one for nothing? It's the only reason I can think of for using it.

My advice would be to stick to the SOHC VTEC D16Y1 OBD-I engine. Not too hard to find, and reasonably simple to transplant.

You will need - - -

engine and (preferably) gearbox (better ratios 2nd & 3rdin the D16Y1 box). I'm assuming your car is manual - it it's auto then that's a whole new ball game which begs the question "Why bother?"

EFI setup - fuel pump, tank, hoses

ECU P28 (auto or manual - conversion is simple from auto to manual)

Wiring - easy to just use complete D16Y1 loom to enable VTEC etc

Cluster - with tacho

That's for starters - you'll also need some manuals, lots of patience and some experience with a soldering iron, a spanner, and an engine hoist.

Good luck.

Peter

(Been there - done that a few times now)

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Originally Posted by jdm_b16a

OK. Nothing new here. It's been done one zillion times already, both locally and in just about every country in world.



So it's a Breeze. The 'economy EG' Honda released in the early 90s to counter claims their cars were too expensive for the average consumer. Not many highlights but the chassis is still OK. A reasonable starting point.

My first question is "Why a D16Y5 OBD-II" engine? Has someone given you one for nothing? It's the only reason I can think of for using it.

My advice would be to stick to the SOHC VTEC D16Y1 OBD-I engine. Not too hard to find, and reasonably simple to transplant.

You will need - - -

engine and (preferably) gearbox (better ratios 2nd & 3rdin the D16Y1 box). I'm assuming your car is manual - it it's auto then that's a whole new ball game which begs the question "Why bother?"

EFI setup - fuel pump, tank, hoses

ECU P28 (auto or manual - conversion is simple from auto to manual)

Wiring - easy to just use complete D16Y1 loom to enable VTEC etc

Cluster - with tacho

That's for starters - you'll also need some manuals, lots of patience and some experience with a soldering iron, a spanner, and an engine hoist.

Good luck.

Peter

(Been there - done that a few times now)

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Thanks for the response :D

I'm getting the Y5 because it's going to cost me $500 for the engine, gearbox, ecu, wiring harness and engine mounts.

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Originally Posted by Karlbee92

I'm getting the Y5 because it's going to cost me $500 for the engine, gearbox, ecu, wiring harness and engine mounts.

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The D16Y5 is the VTEC-E verson engine. It's a detuned D series, built for economy motoring.

D16Y5

VTEC-E
Found in :

1996–2000 Honda Civic VTI
Displacement : 1,590 cc (97 cu in)
Bore and Stroke : 75 × 90 mm (3.0 × 3.5 in)
Power : 127 hp (94.7 kW, 129 ps) at 5,800 rpm
Torque :111 lb·ft (? kg/m, ? Nm) at ??? rpm
Valvetrain : SOHC VTEC-E(4 valves per cylinder)
Fuel Control : OBD-2 MPFI
Head Code : P2J
ECU Code : P2N
Piston Code : P2MY

I cannot think of one good reason why anyone would want to spend all that money and time installing this engine, especially when you can pickup a D16Y1 for half that.

That's just my opinion of course.

What are you hoping to achieve by doing this tranpslant (seriously) - drivability, economy, EFI reliability, power???

Peter

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Originally Posted by jdm_b16a

The D16Y5 is the VTEC-E verson engine. It's a detuned D series, built for economy motoring.

D16Y5

VTEC-E
Found in :

1996–2000 Honda Civic VTI
Displacement : 1,590 cc (97 cu in)
Bore and Stroke : 75 × 90 mm (3.0 × 3.5 in)
Power : 127 hp (94.7 kW, 129 ps) at 5,800 rpm
Torque :111 lb·ft (? kg/m, ? Nm) at ??? rpm
Valvetrain : SOHC VTEC-E(4 valves per cylinder)
Fuel Control : OBD-2 MPFI
Head Code : P2J
ECU Code : P2N
Piston Code : P2MY

I cannot think of one good reason why anyone would want to spend all that money and time installing this engine, especially when you can pickup a D16Y1 for half that.

That's just my opinion of course.

What are you hoping to achieve by doing this tranpslant (seriously) - drivability, economy, EFI reliability, power???

Peter

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I can't really find any others for any cheaper.

I'm looking for an upgrade from the D13 (which is why I was actually considering getting the D16Y5) because it's still more powerful. Where in NSW am I able to pick up decent price engines?

Keep an eye out when they come up for sale right here on this forum.

lol phuc dat for $500 you could purchase a B20B8 engine+B18B gearbox

if ur in sydney i can point you in the right direction

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Originally Posted by GSi_PSi

lol phuc dat for $500 you could purchase a B20B8 engine+B18B gearbox

if ur in sydney i can point you in the right direction

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Where abouts can I find that?

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Originally Posted by Karlbee92

Where abouts can I find that?

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pm sent

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Originally Posted by GSi_PSi

lol phuc dat for $500 you could purchase a B20B8 engine+B18B gearbox

if ur in sydney i can point you in the right direction

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All well and good but just keep in mind you're looking at upwards to $1K for engineering certificate, plus emissions and noise testing here in NSW. Some engineers charge even more.

This is because of the increase in power over your original engine. A leap from 1300cc to 2 Litres and a heavier engine (in the B20B) will also require a brake upgrade (at the front at least).

You're also looking at $300-$500 for custom engine mounts to convert the B20B to the D engine bay.

Not sure of the wiring situation, but probably require an auto electrician to wire it up (maybe - depends on how knowlegeable and handy you are)

Peter

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if u were in WA, there is a d16a8 turbo for sale for $500, fix the valve seal and you are good for 200fwhp.

it was posted yesterday, shouldnt be that hard to find.