DC2 handling issue - pig tailing - Coilovers

Hey guys,

So I have a DC2, currently I'm not quite satisfied with my handling..

The rears keep on pig tailing and doesn't hold grip, so at some stages, I do spin out (or almost) and keep in mind I'm not taking 45degrees bend at a high speed.. Lol
I'm not too sure if my coilovers are causing the issue or alignment.. Thought I'll ask the forums and hope for some suspension guru to shine me some light!

Current suspension / handling mods

- skunk 2 pro series II coilovers (non damper adjustable)
- F7 rear LCA's
- ASR subframe
- 22mm rear DC2R sway bar
- hardrace RTA bushings
- hardrace toe arms
- hardrace caster bush
- pretty much all the bushes are already changed to hardrace
- hardrace front lower control arm bushings
- 16x8 enkei RPF1
- brand new 205/45 Federal RSR


I also don't have any camber kit.. If that makes a big difference?

So the only issue is how can I improve my handling and what can possibly cause the 'pig tailing'


Thanks in advance and I do apologize if this sort of question has already been asked before

wat is pig tailing?

Rear not holding grip through bends.. Causing the vehicle to spin out

Tyre pressures?

do you have your alignment figures, tyre pressures and spingrates?

your back end is most likely too stiff



and where did you get the term pig tailing from?

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Originally Posted by curtis265

do you have your alignment figures, tyre pressures and spingrates?

your back end is most likely too stiff



and where did you get the term pig tailing from?

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Them s chassis boys always use it around me haha and I kinda got used to it..

Hmm what can I do to reduce the stiffness? Get a lower spring rate?

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Originally Posted by jdmEG5

Them s chassis boys always use it around me haha and I kinda got used to it..

Hmm what can I do to reduce the stiffness? Get a lower spring rate?

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Well we need to know the current rates, tyre pressures and alignment first as curtis said. Those are usually the things that contribute to oversteer.

I'm trying to get more oversteer so I'm also keen to know what you've got haha.

Do you run any toe out in your alignment? that will do it.

First thing to do is make sure everything is properly installed and aligned. The big rear bar with stock front bar will cause it to be more taily, (lol pigtailing - those dorifto guys make up theyr own shit as they go) but this shouldn't be enough to cause it to spin out in "normal" driving.

If you've replaced all the suspension and bushes, have you had the alignment properly redone? Do this first, and also worth corner weighting it as this can cause big imbalances in handling (if you can get hold of someone with corner scales).

Better to eliminate the basics first, then start looking further.

upgrade front sway bar.

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Originally Posted by Hondarally

First thing to do is make sure everything is properly installed and aligned. The big rear bar with stock front bar will cause it to be more taily, (lol pigtailing - those dorifto guys make up theyr own shit as they go) but this shouldn't be enough to cause it to spin out in "normal" driving.

If you've replaced all the suspension and bushes, have you had the alignment properly redone? Do this first, and also worth corner weighting it as this can cause big imbalances in handling (if you can get hold of someone with corner scales).

Better to eliminate the basics first, then start looking further.

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I have this mate, he's getting corner weights soon.

free sussy setup. gon be nice

maybe cos junk2 coilovers

hehe

The correct terminology is called Oversteer.

To overcome Oversteer/Understeer you have to go through the process of setting up your car right. It's all about balance. Your setup seems OK to me, maybe it's just the driver...

What circuit do you lose control on, what turn?