as the topic says, are these kits anygood, more specifically the stage 2 kit?
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as the topic says, are these kits anygood, more specifically the stage 2 kit?
i would go custom ! or talk to age from Razz Tech, but it all comes down to how much money you want to spend... in general you want a few key things
Correct fuel and ignition management
4 larger injectors
Nice large size turbo ball bearing if you can afford it, the larger side of
things help traction, gives you more power as you rev.
Nice stainless steel manifold
i could talk all day regarding conversions but yeah ;-) go custom it will be much more expandable
Regards James
this is what is included...im lookin at a budget or $8-10k... this is down the track (i was initially looking at all motor .. but i dunno still in 2 minds)
Integra DC2 VTi-R Stage 2
Kit Includes: Cast Exhaust Manifold, 320hp BB Turbo, S/Steel Heat Shield, Link Plug-in ECU, Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator Kit, FCD, K&N Air Filter, Front Mounted Intercooler & Rubber Intercooler Pipes, 2.5" S/Steel Dump Pipe, Quality Hoses, Clamps and Fittings
$4954.54
http://xspeed.dreamhost.com/catalog/...2b366fc174a82a
how much for labour and on top of that hondata s200 and dyno tuning?
would i be better off swapping any of the parts in the kit?
any help would be good
Also im in Perth if u know anyone here i should talk to
vti-2 edit: post removed. You have a PM.
Please keep this on topic.
I've seen a DC2R with the AVO kit.
It does the job. I think the quality of the install will matter.
The one I have seen didn't use the link ECU that AVO offer, instead he went PowerFC. Also upgrade to a Koyo triple core radiator + oil cooler.
The AVO kits are reasonably good for the price. Only thing is you'll have to upgrade the injectors and find a trusted workshop to find you a good ecu. There are many debates on which ecu to go, it all depends on your budget, goals and workshop you go to.
I personally would purchase only the manifold/heatsheild, turbo, dump pipe, oil&water lines.
The cooler and all the piping and fueling (rc injectors, fuel reg, pump) your better off outsourcing or letting your trusted workshop source it.
Then if you plan on going for big power you'll have to rebudget that 10K and budget for a rebuild.
How many kw should your car be putting down from that 8-10k turbo kit ?
Around 120kw atw ?
pffft....with 8-10grand you should be 160 plus kw@wheels
For a vti-r teg ? 160kw atw for $10k ?
Keep in mind that 8-10k does include labour, as the guy did post the turbo kit itself only cost 5k.
But hey, if you can show me a contact (phone, website, email) to get a 160kw atw turbo kit for $10k drive away, i'll be very greatful.
160kw on 7psi on a stock engine, you will never make 160kw.
ok fine you can get fake dyno graphs but believe me iv tuned many turbo Honda running 7psi, fine you can run more boost but for how long until you need to rebuild your engine.
we do basic turbo kits all the time for the b engine, with Adrian from razz tech in melb and typically on a b16 we see a increase from 85kw (NA) to 130kw (Turbo 7psi), on a b18 we see changes from 90kw (NA) to to 135 - 140KW (turbo 7psi)
Of corse the condition of the engine, compression and engine wear plays a HUGE role also in how much power you make, trust me thow 7psi boosted Honda’s are a blast to drive !
spend 10k on a unreal setup nice manifold injectors fuel pump ecu cooler cooler pipes, get it professionally installed, and design your turbo kit to run not only low boost but HIGH boost, so one day you can build your engine and have a absolute crazy car.
Regards James
James, so are you saying it is possible to get my DC2 Vti-r to run 50kw atw more for $10k drive away ? Although not as impressive as 160kw atw still pretty impressive stuff. $10k, no cutting corners, everything done right ?
DC2's a different kettle of fish, the high compression on the engine, makes a large difference.
We have a dc2 right now in the workshop, the car made 190kw on 10psi of boost, the customer wanted to run more than 7psi.
Anyway the engine now has no compression on no3 cylinder the car made power but yeah.
The car was running a motec ecu, tuned by me, which was then further tuned by another workshop, who leaned off the af more than what i would. 1 week later the engine comes back to us "blown" although they did make 210kw at the wheels, ( on a difference brand dyno)
if I was going to tune a dc2 and make it run safe I would never go over 7psi, I would use a external wastgate to regulate boost.
Your in melb.. so pop down to razz tech and you will see the car im talking about.
Adrian by far has a huge amount of knowledge and can custom build you anything.
Regards James