Honda Civic Coupe VTIR vs Madza 3

My friend believe that his new madza 3 will beat my coupe??

Is this true? Hes is semi-automatics. Its not a SP 23 i dont think. I think he metion its was the second from the top of the range.

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I can't see it beating the VTi-R

Nah, no way mate. The VTi-R shouldn't have troubles against a SP23 for that matter.

But there's only one way of finding out and that's for you to race your mate in his Mazda 3 :D

im with mr e

the mazda has no chance, trust me :P

Honda 1 Mazda 0

Race him and find out Anthony38 (on a private road of course!)

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Originally Posted by wynode

Race him and find out Anthony38 (on a private road of course!)

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I was about to say... there's only one way to find out. ;)

Its funny how some people say "The civic will beat it". On paper yeah possibly, but how do you know any of these two can drive? Obviously Anthony is asking which car would beat the other on paper, but if he can't drive then it wouldnt take a lot to beat the VTiR. Obviously Jon knows this since he has a GSi and is beating VTiRs.

Basically what I am getting at is, it depends on the driver mate, and how quickly you can swap the cogs while keeping the revs up in your power band :D

Woops i was thinking of the mazda 2 :P my bad... yeah depending on how good the Mazda's gear box is and how it puts the power down (can't be that great since its auto) then i'd say it'd be a drivers race.

All Mazda 3's have 104@6500 RPM whilst the SP3 has 115@6500 RPM

Torque is 181@4500 RPM and 203@4500 RPM respectively also

fair bit more torque than the VtiR though. It'd be enough torque to launch the mazda 3 harder but its not exactly a light car.

I'd think that a half decent Manual driver in the VtiR would beat a Mazda 3 auto.

Could be fairly close though...

When you drag him just launch it in revs anything above 3000... because he wont be able to sit there with his foot on the break above 3000, his box just wont let him do it.