Conflicting CRX Specs

I've been searching on the net for some stock et times and power outputs of the gen2 CRX so i can compare to other cars ratings. I'm looking at buying one and want to know the level im be starting at so i can set a reasonable level to hope to achieve (NA). All sites are different, either hp or kw and either at fly wheel or at wheels, but none seem to give a straight answer.

SO, what sort of power would a d16a8 in a gen2 CRX put out? if someone is full of answers then give 1/4 mile, kw at wheels, torque, 0-60ft with decent driver, and possibly a comparision of what type of cars it will keep up with stock.

And how much difference will the basic I/H/E, possibly a chip, make to the above. and What would a stock ba16 conversion in a gen2 put out?

i just hate how cars put 237hp to beef it up a bit, when really its 180kw and only 100 at the wheels or something

stock d16a you'd be looking at around 80-100kw? probably a low 16 sec 1/4 mile.
stock b16a a bit more than that and a mid 15 sec 1/4 mile.

KJeep in mind that they are very light cars, so they don't need huge power figures to compete with skylines, WRX's etc...

Factory engine HP:

D16A8 124HP@6600rpm (96Kw)
B16A 160HP@7200rpm i believe (120kw)

Factory wheel HP:

depends on the dyno and atmospheric conditions but I found a good indicator for wheel HP is taking the factory KW figure and subtracting a bit...

D16A8 in the vicinity of 90HP@wheels
B16A in the vicinity of 110HP@wheels

Intake/Header/Exhaust

D16A8 around 100HP@wheels
B16A around 120HP@wheels

1/4 mile times:

Stock D16A8 - low 16s
IHE D16A8 - mid/high 15s

Stock B16 - high 15s
IHE B16 - low/mid 15s

A stock D16A will beat most NA 4s and 6s and keep up with some 8s
A worked D16A (depending on mods) can beat 6s and give 8s a scare

A stock B16 will do the above and give 8s a scare
A worked B16 will do the above and sometimes beat 8s in the 1/4 (depending on the overall speed as 8s get quick topend)

its a rought but just about right type of a guide.

I can tell you my D16A8 made 102HP@wheels after installing I/H/E and gets me down the 1/4 in 15s with a bodykit and 17s.

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Originally Posted by Klayemore

KJeep in mind that they are very light cars, so they don't need huge power figures to compete with skylines, WRX's etc...

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yeah i understand that, but until i own one and can get it on the street i cant compare because none of the figures ive found have been expressed by a uniform measure (ie.kw at wheels)

thanks for that, and if anyone has more info then please still post it

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Originally Posted by SINISTR

I can tell you my D16A8 made 102HP@wheels after installing I/H/E and gets me down the 1/4 in 15s with a bodykit and 17s.

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Thats what i like to hear. if i can embarass some tough guys in commodores ill be happy :D

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Originally Posted by Klayemore

KJeep in mind that they are very light cars, so they don't need huge power figures to compete with skylines, WRX's etc...

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i drive a stock ef8 (gen2 sir crx, b16a) and i cant compete with the turbo skylines, or any wrx. maybe the rb25de skylines etc but the turbo cars, forget it on a stock b16a, even more so with a d16a. they just dont have the torque. simple as that :(

I just want absolute confidence in beating idiots who have borrowed mummy's car (Mazda 6, commodore, etc) which i am certainly not guaranteed with my current car (SOHC) :(

and CRX's are the best looking car ever created, thats a big factor too

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Originally Posted by szmidi

and CRX's are the best looking car ever created, thats a big factor too

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Very true :p

I have a slightly worked ZC (pod, extractors, exhaust, HD clutch) and it keeps up with and beats some V6 commodores etc. Fkn bogans :D

A stock b16a will not beat skylines etc - it has the potential too is what I mean.

Don't street race for starters - take it to the track!

I've beaten a new Mazda6 on the strip and have definatelly upset commodores in the past.

CRXs in general - unless you put a B18C or spend crazy amount of $$$ on the engine will have a hard time beating anything thats Turbo (except for Pulsar ET which i killed in my auto CRX 1.5L LOL). They are however awesome as a track car, put a few twisty corners in the way of a CRX and it will breeze through them like it was a straight road while all the other cars will struggle.

CRXs are not built for TOP speed but you will upset some cars even with a D16.

[QUOTE=SINISTR]Don't street race for starters - take it to the track![QUOTE]

No, im with you there sinistr, im a corners boy, which is how my current car is set up, but i get killed once it comes to acceleration. and there is no track racing here anyway. i can easily hit a roundabout and take off now but its not as humiliating as losing of the mark

cheers all

Yeh if u want straight-line power - B18C, K20A or turbo the stock engine - which is prolly what I'm doing in the future.

As SIN said, CRX's are built for track - alot of people get quite surprised with the handling capabilities of the little things.

I dont want to go insane, im lookin at about 100kw at wheels or 15 sec quarters if that is not a mission out of a NA non-vtec, and ill be quite happy. just need more than what i got now and to piss off those *ahem* bogans