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Hi guys,
I'm about to replace my stock 16" rims with 17" luxury ones. What tyres would you guys recommend for it? I think the standard size is 225/45R17. My budget is around $1000-$1200 for the set. I'm after performance and feel with reasonable wear.
Any ideas/opinions are welcome.
Thanks in advance! :thumbsup:
you can get goodyear eagle f1 gs-d3 for around 250-300 a corner (that's the price I paid a few years ago though)
Honestly, I was really disappointed with the f1 gs-d3... after about 15,000km they really feel lacking in grip and only lasted me 30,000km or so.
I'd suggest advan sport v103, instead I'm using them now and they're great: higher grip level, quieter, less tramlining and a more subtle appearance.
Check the Tyre Recommendation Thread as well.....
Advan AD07 ftw!!!
also i believe dere was an article in this years wheels magazine which named top tyres...might be interested to take a look...Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroAccord13
april issue...
http://www.potenza-adrenalin.com/
This might be a decent tyre.
Yokohama S.Drive or C.Drive.
Yokohama S-Drive. Really good. I am really happy w/ mine
Thanks guys! :D
Do you guys know a good place to buy and install tyres (including alignment) in Sydney?
Yoko C-Drive ftw
Potenza S-03 -> Adrenalin. I knew one person who couldnt highly recommend them enough. they're only ~250 a corner so its not that expensive.
Michelin Pilot Preceda are one of the quietest, most comfortable tyres that still offer fantastic balance and grip.
$250 is expensive for 225/45 R17. Just add a little more and he can go for AD07! Plus, the S03 are a bit crappy in terms of treadwear (most of the time, the car won't be pushed hard, so the tyre is wearing without using its grip advantage)Quote:
Originally Posted by SiReal
I thought for 17" tyres $250 was cheap. hoho. thanks aaron, will do more research before i buy.
for a top of the line street performance tyre in 225/47/R17 $250-350 is a reasonable ballpark figure.
Advan sport v103 and AD07 have a very similar tread compound (may even be the same)
Tempe Tyres in Pricess Highway Tempe gives the best prices .
Just wondering what the durability is on the Advan Sport and the C-drives?
And the difference between the S-drive and the C-drive.
My Potenza REO40's are looking like they'll need replacing by 30000km so I'm looking for new tyres but would prefer something that would last me longer than a year :P
Thing is, S03 aren't top of the line. :) AD07 is much better than S03.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F
Not sure on the wear rating of the Advan Sport. But for the C and S drive, they are 300. In comparison, S02 and your RE040 are only rated at 180.Quote:
Originally Posted by tanalasta
C-drive is made for comfort and safety in the wet. So while it does not have as much dry grip as the S-drive, the C-drive is more predictable in the wet and is also quieter.
bridgestone re001 is $249 a corner for 17" (http://www.btc.net.au/StockStack2007...ogue_Metro.pdf)
the sport are rated at 180, by the look of them they'll probably last 25,000km (including one track session and a few runs down the drag strip). Which is as good as the eagle f1's i used to have (yet have heaps more grip).Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Dunlop Sport Maxx's get em from BOB Jane Bankstown
Where did you get your tyres from Aaron?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
if you want quiet set of rubbers, consider AVS db from Yokohama. back home, the tyres provided absolutely no noise intrusion at all on the humble Corolla without any sound dampening modifications done to it.
Got the first set of C.drive for our other car from Bob Jane at full price. Will be going to the local Tyrepower here for 225/50 R16 for $219 next.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodaz
I can prolly get you cheaper if you are in Melbourne.
Michelin preceda II, dunlop sport 2000a, yokahama advan's excellant tyres.
I'm on michelin's preceda's excellant tyres, little if any tramling, quiet and comfortable ride.
I'm thinking of getting Michelin Preceda II for the front in the next few months. How's the wear rate on your Michelin's going? My wife had Michelin's once and they were fantastic. 50K km/s later and still heaps of tread, even on the front.Quote:
Originally Posted by LXRY
Michelin PS2?
Mine still new but the tread is quite chunky, so im assuming they will go the distance, crossing the fingers at least 50,000klm's ++Quote:
Originally Posted by BiLL|z0r
Don't think you'll be able to get Michelin PS2 at 300 per corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by free2d
What about tyre weights? Which tyres are lighter than others? The 17" rims are about 10kg in weight (about 1kg more than the 16") so I want to make sure that the tyres I put on aren't too heavy. They look awesome compared to the 16" rims. Can't wait to put them on. They should increase overall grip a lot. :thumbsup:
Will it still be ok for me to use the 16" space saver spare? The overall diameter will increase 0.54cm according to my calculations - From 205/55/16R to 225/45/17R.
You need to check with each tyre manufacturer about tyre weight. There is a huge variance across the brands and many do not publish that info anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodaz
And yes you can still use the space saver but the car will probably not track straight due to the difference.
advan and yokohama are the best for me.. eventhough i'm using stock bridgestone atm... they are pretty much good in the wet and dry roads
any chance you know where your GSD3 are made from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F
i had a set of German gsd3 before, used it pass 35000km, and it is still gripping quite well. now on Falken FK452, would say they are as good as the GSD3, at only 2/3 the price.
Cheers mate. I'll start researching!Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
Put the space saver on the rear (like you are supposed to) and it'll be ok at a speed limit of at up 70km/h I think. Too bad with RWD vehicles, you need a full sized spare.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodaz
I'm running conti sport contact 2s :thumbsup: :thumbsup: but a bit pricey.Dunlop sport Maxx seem to get a good rap!!consider them.
hi, sorry to hijack the thread, but need some opinion.
I just got a quote from melbourne as follow:
Yoko V550 265 each
Conti Sport Contact 2 255 each
Sport Maxx 245 each
Adrenalin 225 each
205/55/16 balance and fitted, any idea this sound reasonable? Also the tyre place claim Yoko and Conti is best for euro and it just appears they are the most expenive too out of the list, anything to back up this claim?
Thanks.
sounds expensive...
The Yoko you listed is the low road noise version. I'd rather Conti Sport Contact 2 instead. So it's either the Contis or the Adrenalin. Both different tyres for different uses. Get Contis for normal driving, and Adrenalin if you are the kind that goes through your tyres quickly. BTW, you can do better than $225 for Adrenalins in that size. If you go to any bridgestone tyre centre, they are selling Adrenalins in 205/55 R16 for $199 now during their Stack Stock Sale. http://www.btc.net.au/StockStack2007/metro.aspQuote:
Originally Posted by petsfact
what happened to the sport maxx? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
What do you guys think of Kumho? specifically the Kumho Ku31?
http://www.kumho.com.au/product_high...ce_premium.htm
I'm thinking of getting these next time round. I got quoted 225/40/18 for $150 each (mates rates). I think they're bout 200 at bob jane.
I ended up getting Kumho Ecsta Seven ku23's for $130 because they didn't have ku31's in stock.
To me, my personal preference is Yoko > Dunlop. But if you can get Adrenalins for cheaper than the Sport Maxx, and both of them are aimed towards the modded compact car segment, I'd wait for someone else here to get Adrenalins first and review them :DQuote:
Originally Posted by petsfact
But I like Contis enough to choose them over the more expensive V550. Tony1234 has more experience as he has the Contis, so listen to him.
I'm inclined to go for the C-drives at the moment - do people know what a 'good' price for a set of 4, including install/balance/etc... is?
17" stock rims.
Call up the usual places, Bob Jane and Tyrepower.Quote:
Originally Posted by tanalasta
Yeah,contis are excellent but the price:thumbdwn: If you track your car i wouldn't put them on though,i'd go for Yokohamas.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
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Originally Posted by tony1234
I don't track my car, just normal daily driving but of course you get that "fast spirit" once in a while.
All i am worrying is the tyre flex, my current factory dunlop gives lot of tyre flex, and steering response is at its lowest possible.
How the conti work? Precise steering response? does it give you that "almost lose it" feeling when doing hard cornering? Thanks.
Must have a look at this site - www.cheaptyres4u.com.au. I saved around $100 PER tyre when I bought mine from here a month ago. Just make sure you specify EXACTLY what you need and itemise everything carefully (including alignment etc. etc.) and get a quote for everything (otherwise you may end up paying extra towards the end) and try avoiding the 7Hills workshop!
Almost everything is better than the stock Dunlops. (except for maybe Ling Longs).Quote:
Originally Posted by petsfact
Contis are good.Just make sure you put approx.38psi all round(this is what i was told)and they ride and handle well.Quote:
Originally Posted by petsfact
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Originally Posted by euro77
I have PS2s, they're ~ $450-$500 a pop :eek: in 225/45/17. Great tyre though......if you're willing to cough up. I'm not sure I will be next tyre change tough!
Yeah, Michelin PS2 are pricey, I think because they are the OEM tyre for the E46 M3.
my vote goes to Conti Sport Contact 2
Me too!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by tron07
pshh i got full slicks on mine! 300 wide hahaha jks
i cant remember wats on my 17s but i got semislicks on my 16s for the track haha =P
[QUOTE=Chris_F;1203324]Honestly, I was really disappointed with the f1 gs-d3... after about 15,000km they really feel lacking in grip and only lasted me 30,000km or so.
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I also bought these for my 05 lux - I'm not too happy with them either. Compared to the stock RE040 they seem to have a much softer compound and thicker side wall which numbed the feeling and directional response. I also found there was less lateral grip. The only way I was able to gain the same feeling from the Bridgestone’s was after installing a Whiteline RSB and Cusco tower bar. However I have done 30000km with them and they do seem to last. On that note, I would still not recommend them or buy them again.
are there any decent tyres with 300 wear rating for under $200 a pop (in 17")?
i like the sounds of the yoko c-drive but its slightly out of my budget... replacing all 4 would be $1k+
and i'm really dissapointed with the factory bridgestones.. not only were they loud and caused my car to veer to the right, they also ran out superfast with normal driving ... dont want this to happen again with the next set.
The cost of a set of 4 C-drives were $1100 including installation was the quote.
Factory REO40's will only last me around 30k which I found disappointing!
well i had the factory 16" dunlop sp sports and went about 15000km on them and they had at least 80% left when i took them off...
i put on the potenzas (which by the looks of it had about 40% left when i put them on) and they are gone in like under 10000km....
I had Yokohama C-Drives fitted recently when I upgraded to 17 inch rims, and I'm very happy with them. Great grip (over the stock Dunlop 16s), and on a par for noise. They're reasonable over rough roads, but you will feel the shift to the lower profile over pothole-style corrugations.
My car is doing a lot of pitching and darting under braking and heavy acceleration right now, but I'm fairly sure that's down to the wheel alignment rather than the tyres.
Probably your springs are worn in and more pliable :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aday
I can get 17 inch 225/45/17 for 1100 fitted
BobJane is selling the Yokohama A.Drive R1 in 235/45 R17 for $229. Give them a call to check on the price of the 225. Remember to state the "R1". There is another A.Drive without the R1, which is an economy sports tyre.Quote:
Originally Posted by tanalasta
hmm that is a pretty good price, thats like 920 a set... whats their wear rating and how are they in the wet?
forgot to update, got quote sport max 850 16" alignment included or 786 adrenalin no alignment included.
haven't change them, still have the old tyres. then i come to think why not i just buy some 17"s that come with rubber, a not so good quality but reasonable looking cost maybe something like 1500?
not sure what to do with the car now might leave it until the tyres worn out and came off itself on freeway.....
Can you live with "not so good" rubber though? I know I couldn't. If I got 17s I'd want great rubber still anyway.
Neither could i.You should buy the best tyres you can afford.remember they're the only contact between your car and the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiLL|z0r
can't remember if this has been suggested, but I think pirelli dragon is a good balance between performance and wear rate. Nick would vouch for this tyre, won't you Nick? :D
they are not so good? didn't know......
Just to update today i went to change all 4 corners to RE001.
sport max and RE001 both got quoted 850ish blance fitted and alignment. For the same amount of money i choose to go for latest design. At least it's something eh......
For what i paid i think it's pretty good value for money, road noise is definately down by almost 50%, probably just because my dunlop is nearly worn out. Steering response is good, but alignment is getting worse... will need to take it back again.
I got only 15000k out of my Yokohama V550 on the back.
You need to rotate your tyres more often.Quote:
Originally Posted by falco
gee that's quite low.Quote:
Originally Posted by falco
do you do tyre rotations as yfin suggested? and other preventative maintenance, like proper inflations *actually, that's all I can think of! :(*
Thats strange, I would've thought your fronts would wear out fasterQuote:
Originally Posted by falco
the standard 17" size is 225/45/r17
can i fit 235/45/r17 and is it ok to do so?
Using the tyre size calculator at: www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by Entity
It reads that using a 235/45/17 will mean yr avg speed will be 1.4% higher, not a huge difference.
This size tyre is also more suited to a wider rim such as 17x8. I am also considering this size and a previous Euro owner "Yfin" on this forum was also using this size on a 17 x 7.5' wheel, see his comment below in this post: http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/newrepl...reply&p=995168.
Hope this helps. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by yfin
as above you cant put that size on the stock 17" rimsQuote:
Originally Posted by Entity