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gotta say...
i've had my car for 3 weeks now...
it's only done 7700kms but i'm loving it... hehehe
raced a wrx the other day..
killed him in first and second gear.. but third just didn't do it for me..
anyways..
i reckon it's a very good mod prospect..
the Spoon Sports boss said it was going to be the "poor man's racer"
gotta say i agree with the guy..
anyways....
hey buddy
congrats on the new car :)
i reckon u should make a lil project of your own with your jazz.. it'll be fun!
start with that CF bonnet :P (before someone else takes it)
oh yeh we better meet up one day really soon, i wanna drive the jazz..
true bro.. true..
Killed a WRX in a Jazz ? :|
yeah.. looked like he had a big night..
it was a saturday morning btw..
wrx's 3rd gear is the gun gear.. so he would have shot off anyway
1st i could understand maybe
but second?? was he trying
ive got a jazz - 5spd manual and ive gone against a '99 rex and wasnt even close.
have you got the cvt7 speed?? reason being is that when i went to buy my jazz the guy told me the first 2 gears were sort of like 1st gear in a manual but i havent driven one so cant say exactly.
anyways if you want to know anything about a jazz jus-10 is the man to talk to (kind of like a jazz god - he knows everything!) and if you want parts tanghy is your man.
Pete :)
wouldn't be surprised if 1st 2 gears are similar to 1st gear in manual.
after all, with 7-speed, the ratios must be pretty close and no point having such close ratios in higher revs too.
but i dont have an auto so i'm only guessing :)
Pfft...the '7-speed' is nothing but a gimmick. It doesn't have 7 gears....it is a CVT gearbox (constantantly variable transmission) which effectively means it has infinate gear ratios. The 'gears' are just a technical wonder to make you think it has different ratios.
Put in normal drive mode and accelerate....watch the tacho and it will just rev constantly without dropping back as it will never change gears...the car will just keep accelerating maintaining constant revs.
As for the Jazz being a mod prospect, well I guess to an extent it is, so long as you remember that it was never designed to be a performance car. That said, I managed to keep up with a gen 4 VTi-R Prelude twice and all I had was a filter.
You seem to be able to get reasonable gains from basic mods like air filter, exhaust and a nice tune with something like a V-AFC 2 or e-Manage. There isn't really much else worth doing to it, and even extractors at around $900 have to be given a lot of thought. It is a lot of money for only a couple of extra kws.
Your other option would be a K20/24 swap. The K24 would be pushing it for engineering purposes I would think, but the torque would be amazing in such a small car. I have been speaking to a few guys about this, and whilst the engine bay in the Jazz is quite small, apparently the K20 block bolts in quite easily. It's just a matter of whether you can justify the massive price for a Type R version of the K20.
I have found someone that will do the conversion, but it all comes down to the money..
now I'm ranting
what car is the k24 from?? prelude?
if you dont mind me asking how much were you quoted for the conversion? was it for a k20 or a k24 conversion?
Pete :)
Sp00n's Jazz has manual transmission..
K24 is from the CRV and Accord Euro
Didn't get talking price on the conversion...just spent a while speculating over fitment, etc. Obviously it can be done (see the Dynamite) and rumour has it there is a Blue one in QLD with a K20.
Price wise, if you were going to go for a K20 (Type R) you would be looking at about $15,000. You could pick up a CR-V K24 dirt cheap compared to that and whilst it has only 118kw or so, it would have potential. You could always go for a lesser tuned version of the K20 like something out of the garden variety Teg.
It will also be interesting to see what engines come out in the next generation Civic as perhaps that may offer some sort of compromise betwen the L15 and the big hitting K20/24. The next CTR is supposed to have a hi-po 1.5...
LOL
just leave the engine as it is since Honda engine is too expensive.
Jazz is Jazz. Good little car.
:shock:
Please guys... Jazz is a nice little car, but you people are going way over the top saying that you were able to keep up with WRX, Prelude VTi-R etc....
All I can say to that is "BULLSHIT"!!
It's either that the other driver wasn't even trying or he's a terrible terrible driver.
You know that (or you should know) there's no way Jazz can go anywhere near WRX or Prelude VTi-R in terms of performance.
All I can say is "f*ck you"...I must not have been the one in the drivers seat when I pulled up next to the VTi-R lude and the dude just couldn't get over it that I kept up with him...and yes he was trying because I could hear him (remember I was next to him)
Actually they guy is on OzHonda too....
Sorry guys I've been lying all along...thankyou for setting me straight coladuna
You are an idiot. Yes, that did happen. It happened in your dream. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus-10";p="107225
Just look at the figures on paper.
Prelude VTi-R's 0-100km/h time is usually quoted as around 7.5-8 seconds. That is being relatively conservative too.
Jazz VTi-S time is quoted as around 10-10.5 seconds.
Even the dumbest idiot in the world will be able to figure out which will be faster.
Are you saying that your mere CAI mod allowed you to beat a much faster car?
Dream on kid....
Very funny.... you could hear it? How do you know if he was revving only to like 5000rpm or 7000 rpm? You can actually tell from just hearing it, can you? What a marvellous skill to have. Try posting your experience anywhere and people will laugh at you just like I am right now. bwahaha
Sure, your Jazz is as fast as a Prelude VTi-R. If so, Prelude VTi-R would be as fast as WRX. haha. Wake up from your dream. That's all I can say really.
I've driven Jazz VTi-S and it's no where near as poweful as H22A. Not even close!
ok .. let's keep this friendly and constructive :)
U know..........sometimes not every traffic light stop is a drag. The WRX and Prelude drivers prolly werent even trying and just accelerating a bit hard, minding their own business. While u prolly accelerated hard and thought u were dragging one another!
I just find it very hard to believe. Jazz is a nice car, but it aint fast.
sound like coladuna is driving one of those FAST car
predule is not that fast as the figure said but please respect yrself even u dun respect others.
Some drivers driving a FAST car may not able to drive so well which a Jazz may able to keep up and maybe you are the one of those. LOL
respect to coladuna...
I have no idea what you're saying. Learn to construct a proper sentence that can get your meaning across.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG";p="107279
Obviously, following a thread that's longer than 1 page is a challenge for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG";p="107279
For your information, I WAS being friendly and was simply correcting his non-sense in a friendly manner. I also pointed out that other driver may not have been trying or really crappy driver. That was until he got pissed off and started to be rude.
I can tell you that other forum members are laughing at the two Jazz drivers who claim that their car is faster than WRX or Prelude VTi-R.
Sorry, unlike you people, I know where my car stands. I know my car isn't the fastest in the world unlike Jus-10 who seem to think that his Jazz can overcome the reality.
lol
well, I am not english people so my english maybe a bit hard to understand for sure.
Yes, 1 page is a bit too long for me but I can still manage to my Matser course so who care.
I know 1 or 2 Jazz in Sdyney track did very well while some ITR get worse result.
So the outcome is all depends on the driver+mod+car condition, car age ... etc
Many ppl do say WRX is faster than ITR, but some ITR do kick wrx (dun say predule since it is so heavy BUT FAST).
Maybe we just stop argue here and enjoy our new section here for JAZZ OWNER.
nah...Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG";p="107292
its way too entertaining !
thats exactly it coladuna... ON PAPER, this car is faster than that.... but in real life, things are alot different.... manual jazz is quoted as 9.5 seconds 0-100 btw.
jus-10 isnt claiming every jazz vti-s will beat every 4th gen prelude out there... hes just saying that they are faster then you would have think.. so please.. chill! btw a blue eg 55kw atw, and gsi 67kw atw have both taken on my 75kw atw civic..... on paper, who did u think would win??
English isn't my first language either. I seriously doubt you'd do well with your course with that kind of grammar.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG";p="107292
Is it so hard to understand?
I did mention to Jus-10 that other driver either didn't try or was a crappy driver.
He refuses to accept that and seems to think that his car is really as fast as Prelude VTi-R
Nope. Never seen Jazz 0-100 time being as quoted anything below 10 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by luzinit";p="107305
Besides, he even refused to accept that other driver wasn't trying or that he was a crappy driver. He seem to be claiming that other driver tried his best and he wasn't a crap driver and he was still able to keep up with him.
Also, your example isn't really relevant here because the power difference between a Prelude & Jazz is a lot more than the power difference between a Civic and Integra.
140+kW vs. 81kW
Even if the other driver was crap, it's hard to lose to a Jazz in a Prelude.
It's more likely that he didn't even try either.
Also, let me remind you that I never tried to say that Jazz is crap or anything like that. I do think Jazz is a great little car and my sister almost bought one recently because I recommended it to her. However, it's pretty ridiculous how some people here think that Jazz can beat much more powerful cars. It's funny enough that you try to drag race Jazz in the first place. Not saying that Jazz is underpowered or anything like that either. It was pretty zippy for a little car, but you people go to extreme.
quote of the century
:lol:Quote:
raced a wrx the other day..
killed him in first and second gear.. but third just didn't do it for me..
oh this is gonna be fun.
140+kW vs. 81kW
u miss out a + after 81kw mate
y not track with a Jazz. People do track with a Jazz in Sdyney and the time is even better than ITR.
ITR will win predule even ITR only got 108kw with IHE. The figure is just a figure.
I own civic and ITR b4. I am sure ITR is faster than Jazz a lot with the same driver which is me. However, I am sure more mod will release later to make it runs better
Why would you put + for Jazz?Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG";p="107350
Jazz's power output is 81kW. Not more, not less.
With 4th gen Prelude, I wrote 140+kW because [acronym:afa204effc="Australian Domestic Market"]AUDM[/acronym:afa204effc] will be 142kW while [acronym:afa204effc="Japanese Domestic Market"]JDM[/acronym:afa204effc] will be 147kW.
Yeah right. That makes sense. Did Michael Schumacher drive the Jazz while a 10 yr old kid drove the ITR?Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG";p="107350
I hope you are quoting the power at the wheel because ITR has 141kW at the flywheel and much lighter than Prelude, which is why ITR is faster than Prelude. If you were quoting 108kW as in at flywheel, you got your stuff all mixed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG";p="107350
And your point being? Any car will run faster if you pour money into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG";p="107350
Besides, Jus-10's signature states that his only mod is CAI. As if CAI will make that much difference. They make very little difference, if any, to performance anyway.[/quote]
hey boys n girls,
first things first - calm down.
at the chance of getting my head ripped off too i would like to TRY and sit on the fence for this one. I can see where both jus-10 and the guy who raced the wrx are coming from and i can aslo see where coladuna is coming from ( i think :?).
so here is my 2 cents take it or leave it:
all the cars coladuna has compared on paper and yes i myself as a jazz owner agree that on paper the jazz is not the winner of any performance contest AND as a jazz owner i have also raced a wrx and been beaten ( i have yet to race a prelude - my friend owns a jap spec so i can put it on the cards if anyone needs a second opinion :wink: )
anyway i also believe what both justin and the guy who raced the wrx have said
because with what i have heard also about the cvt 7 speed it could of beaten the wrx off the line in first and second and this could have happened to because of a thousand reasons and whatever it may have been the jazz got the upper in 1st and 2nd and when the wrx hit 3rd off it went
with the jazz an the prelude i would also believe that the jazz kept up with the prelude. how far in front or how far behind justin didnt say but he did say he kept up (NOTE that he did NOT say that he BEAT it). and for me if i was a car length in front or a car length behind i would call it about even or KEEPING UP. i dont know where the jazz was exactly in relation to the prelude or how long the race went for but it is certainly viable.
so anyway that is my 2 cents and as i said take it or leave but just calm down pls
Pete :)
jazz can be very quick....
anyone follow the hk comic GT-Racing?
the JAZZ wooped the R32 ass !!! hahaahah
amazing
The Jazz is a great little car. Do they make them for men?
Hard to believe you killed a WRX with almost double your power, launching with four wheels.
Keep this on topic bois. any keyboard wars can be taken to PMs. :)
anyways, i just watched BMI's [acronym:5ac1124e58="Valve Timing and lift Electronic Control"]VTEC[/acronym:5ac1124e58] Club...and in it, the Spoon Fit (aka Jazz) was taken for a test by Hattori and Tsuchiya, with Ichimisan (sp!?!) watching closely.
Well, Hattori and Tsuchiya both commented saying that the base Fit isn't a true sports car, however can be modified to be a true racing/sports car. The modification magnitude included stirpping the car bare, with only a bucket seat, dash and mechanical add-ons dat wouldnt fit anywhere else outside of the car.
So, to answer the question.topic at hand, yes the Jazz has a realistic prospect for mods. :)
ps. Watch the [acronym:5ac1124e58="Valve Timing and lift Electronic Control"]VTEC[/acronym:5ac1124e58] Club bois. U'll love it!! :)
quote of the month...
Quote:
Originally Posted by XXpl0Sive";p="107388
^^^^jm9383 Can't you get over it and stop trying to shit stir.
Is there any reason why people are trying to be sexiest I never knew there was such thing as a man/woman’s car thanks for enlightening me cause I always thought it was personal preference.
I love the little jazz's mad looking car with plenty of potential :) ....
lol
some prel driver is here try to continue the keyboard war.
anywany, just let how section clear please and begin in yr own section.
Jazz is for me since I believe the people in Spoon are all or mostly male.
also make chicks drive prel too as my gf do like it since it look GXY
I didn't read all the posts since my little outburst to coladuna, but I made my peace with him and accept that I was out of line (to an extent). Sorry if I started a keyboard war...
Don't get me wrong, I'm not dillusional about the performance of the Jazz, but obviously people like Spoon know what they're doing, so who am I to argue? So yes it has modding potential....
I also don't think it's appropriate to make statements referring the Jazz to being a girls car. I mean civics are driven by plenty of girls and I'm pretty sure I've heard the prelude being referred to as a bit of a 'hairdressers' car....
Correct me if I'm wrong, but all the Jazz owners here are male too.....
Mod away fellow Jazz owners and stray from the norm....there's nothing like being a bit different from the rest!
i second thatQuote:
Mod away fellow Jazz owners and stray from the norm....there's nothing like being a bit different from the rest!
Pete :)
This matter has been settled and that'll be it.
Jazz is a great car and I will second that.
Also, stuff anyone who says car 'X' is a female car, male car...
If you have to rely on your car to verify your gender, I feel sad for you.
Nothing wrong with guys driving little hatchbacks like Jazz.
Quote:
Originally Posted by toE";p="107389
saying that u now have to tell us where u got this video that u watch?
I think you can find their dialog of the video or what the spoon racer said in spoon site.
emule ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by muli";p="107624
watch it bois if yuz get a chance. ichimisan (sp!?!) brought out a Fit bare shell/chasis and pointed out why it was suitable as a racing car.
*comes back after watching it again*
QUOTE
Ichishima: The basic layout of the Fit/Jazz is also the key. In the world of GT Racing, it is an open secret to build the floor hard and the ceiling soft...as racers request for more stiffness
Hattori: as the more rigid the structure, the better handling as it is direct.
Ichishima: the Fit/Jazz is already gifted from the start to be made into a touring or a racing car with (this) body shell structure.
QUOTE
:)
JAzz but no mean a girl's car...... but there is heaps of hot lady driving it.
Back to the argument, I wouldn't diss the guys saying they stayed up with a Gen 4 lude or 1st 2 gears with a WRX. From a personal experience, I got ripped a new arse by a Caprice while I was driving my R33 GTR......couple of reasons:
* That Caprice is an auto and if you guys knows me on the Fast Forums (my nick over there is dairyboy) you would've heard me whinging about the screwed up multi-plate clutch in my car
* The Caprice reacted quicker than I did (I was smoking at the time) like the old drag racing saying, half a second off the reaction time is a second off the ET or something similar
* Turbo lag
Now getting back on the topic, I believe the Jazz have quite a potential if you know what you're doing. Definitely stiffen the chassis up, tune the system further and fit some better brakes. If you read some overseas magazines you might discovered there's a 4 pot Wilwood 310mm front brake conversion. The only thing I have concern about the Jazz is the engine - it wasn't designed to be a performance engine, I wonder how much engine you can get outta it without going too far. When I had a look at the Jazz months ago, I was measuring how much room behind the exhaust manifold to see if I could stick a turbo in there. VNT17 off VW/Audi or GT17 from Garrett is a good choice except my only concern is the fuel tank right behind it. Another problem I can see is how to route all the piping from the outlet of the turbo to an intercooler then to the intake. Gonna be messy...
Ok now I'll crawl back into my hole and shut up :)
slowcrx- is below the Wilwood conversion u're talking about? (interesting rotors there)
http://tycoons-den.com/Mobiles-den/f...ood_brakes.htm
wonder if there's anything to convert the rear drums too ..
It definitely uses the Dynalite calipers but not the weirdo rotors. As for the rear drums, I've heard (don't count on it) that the EK rear disc might somehow bolt on with minor tweaking. I haven't seen it in flesh so I think it's just a rumour.
I too looked at the turbo charging aspect purely out of interest....there is just no room!
That said, apparently there is a turbo one in Sydney somewhere. One of the other forumers encountered it one night. If you really want forced induction then supercharging would probably be much easier....
As for the brakes, there are some pretty impressive setops on that link....What is more impressive is that most of them are just 1.3 autos!....those crazy Japs.....
Whilst it might look cool to have 15inch rotors up front, it is just pure over-kill on what is a pretty light car with modest power levels. Again, look back to the Spoon Fit and see what brakes it runs.....it even retains the rear drums! I have heard however that Spoon will be releasing calipers for the Fit in the near future, however this is still over-kill for most people. Your best bet would be to check out the Mugen range as they have slotted front rotors and braided lines. match this up to a good set of pads and you will be fine. I know this set-up is used with a great success on a Jazz in QLD that sees plenty of track action.
As for the rears, don't worry so much about them being just drums. Yeah they don't look that pretty, but they do do the job. You can always check out Spoon for some hi-po shoes for the drums.
Other than that, I have heard rumors that a rear disc kit exists in Hong Kong, but thats all the imformation I could get. It would make sense that some Civic parts might fit given that the Jazz/Fit platform is based around the Civic, but I am yet t see any one try a rear disc conversion, and it's not high on my list of things to do so I'm not gonna be the guinea pig with that one
jus10 - how are the Spoon upper and lower bars u have on your car? any difference in handling? presumably those are strut & sway bars?
also .. do u know how many wheel nuts we need for our wheels - 4 or 5?
the jazz is 4 as it was the only thing stopping me from putting current model type-r wheels as they are 5studQuote:
Originally Posted by wyl03";p="110033
muli - thanks! btw, have you changed your wheels? if you were to source for wheels yourselves (say from pple on this forum), which shop would you suggest to go to get them fitted?
nope, was gonna put 2002 type-r mags on it but because of different stud pattern i wont be doing so as i would of gotten the type-r mags for quite cheapQuote:
Originally Posted by wyl03";p="110056
It's not a front sway bar, it is a lower arm brace. I haven't fitted that yet, I've only fitted the strut brace....
Can't really tell much difference as the rest of the car is stock and I don't drive it too hard, thus I can't really comment either way.
If you want to fit tyres, let me know what I can sort out. I have a mate that can look after you....
anyone seen the latest wheels magazine, they got 0-100km/h in 9.3secs for the jazz Vti but the article seemed like a honda biased review :cry:
Not bad...must be a manual right?
My car goes in tonight to get the Teins fitted up. Picked them up on the weekend and they look awesome. Much better finish than the $3000 Bilsteins I had fitted to the BMW.
Will keep you guys posted with the results.
yep, its manual.
Hows that CAI of yours coming along?
love to see how it looks, if you can post a pic up justin, im still waiting for my front strut bar to arrive, are they easy to fit?
yup .. got that issue. a comparo between jazz vs fiesta vs barina.Quote:
Originally Posted by muli";p="113465
jazz was tops in space and fuel efficiency, lousy on handling (can't even come close to the german-made fiesta).
but i think it's nothing a good set of suspension and tyres cannot overcome. after all, they did mention the yoko ASPEC was crap.
(have noticed that as well . .the ASPECs do not inspire confidence even when the streets are just a *little* wet).
The front strut bar is pretty easy to fit. It is a bit fiddly getting the nuts on but it is all pretty straight forward.
No further progress on the CAI....I haven't really been bothered with doing anything to it lately. I'm sort of over all the waiting and fussing around and sh*t.
Anyone with a VTi-S want to swap me their immaculate rims(with tyres) plus a little cash for my P1s?
How are the Teins treating you? 8)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus-10
f@cking mad man....
Will have to do a longer write up with pics and everything when I get the chance. Also fitted the Spoon lower bar and the thing handles awesome now, even with the crappy stock tyres!
how much the tein coilover cost u?
$1,900 or so plus fitting....
so cheap?
COilover for $2k is very cheap
oilover when i looking for one for my ITR b4.. it cost like 3k+
hey justin - did you get the wagons or the superwagons?
Pete :)
I went soopa baby!
awesome!!!!
someone told me they were in excess of 2200 :?
was this the kit you got: DSA04-91AS2 and did it come with 4 or was that for 2 dampers?
btw did you want the aftermarket dash parts?
i emailed crd and its $350 for the vafc2 to be fitted and dyno tuned
Pete :)
good on u jus
good stuff
handling must be hell better
Yes they do know what they are doing. Selling excessively expensive parts that require little or no R&D and aren't worth anything, but stupid people in the public pay for. Of course they are going to release parts for the jazz, you know why? Because of people like you with the jazz wanting to be road racers. Spoon is a business they try to make money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus-10
Spoon and to that matter every jap motorsports companys are ****en toys compared to the real boys.
u get what u pay for
i always believe that
buying parts for our cars is a kind of hobbies which like human which buy clothes for themselves which is sometimes just for look or personal satisfaction
Crawl back under your rock carbine...you seem to be having issues with being polite and obviously have no constructive input to the conversation as your comments are generally ill-informed.
I have paid no more for my Spoon parts than what any other person has paid for their whiteline strut bars, etc.
Pete, that part number you posted is the kit I got. It includes absolutely everything you need including 4 shocks, 4 springs, c-spanners, stickers, a badge, everything!
Sorry for not getting back to you about the dash, things have been hectic and I haven't really had much time of late. I don't think I will be going for the dash at this stage. I have heaps of other things to sort out first.
That price from crd for the V-AFC2 installation is cheap. They told me $450. Was your quote for a dyno-tune?
justin, this is what i sent to them and what they sent back:
maybe he hit the wrong key on the keyboard :?Quote:
Hi Peter,
Installed and dyno tuned will cost you $350.00
Regards
Lance
Name: Peter Leveson
Contact details: pleveson@optushome.com.au
Message: how much would it cost to have an apexi vafc2 installed and
tuned in a honda jazz (gd3)?
Thanks
Pete :)
when it gets close to doing it i will ring them anyway:)
either way its a ball park figure which seems to be cheaper than belgarage . . .
ive finally got the ball rolling too :D :D :D
hondar should have my vafc2 next week some time and hopefully in about 3 weeks from now i will be getting the intake pipe and box made up. ive already bought the apexi pod and a pipe for teh cold air feed its slowly coming together :)
Pete :)
how much u get yr pod filter?
i am looking to get one once other mod go into my car.....
i got the apexi power intake filter from www.autospeed.com.au 65mm black on clearance at $110 but www.modyourcar.com.au has them for $125 however they are the 85mm.
you can get the apexi kit for the jazz for modyourcar for $260
im getting a custom stainless intake pipe made up and its prob goin to cost me $350/400 but its what i want. The apexi kit doesnt put the pod right into the corner which is what im trying to achieve. The only problem i can for see is the radiator how but im pretty confident it will work out as ive pulled out the standard box 4 times so far to try estimate things.
Pete :)
Justifiying the jazz as performance vehicle because spoon make parts for it.
righto.
has anyone here opened up the stock airbox? is it full of resonators?
if so, has anyone cut them all out?
There are a few mods to be made to the factory box for improved performance. It is the best option for low-down response.
There are plenty of things to be blocked off or removed to make a much more straight-forward flow of air.
I have put on a few more kays with the new sussy set-up now and can give a bit more info.
I still don't have pics, but the car has been lowered a bit over 2 inches. To get an idea of how low it is, the guard now sits even with the top of my 14inch tyres. The dampening settings are at about 40% of the hardest.
The handling is brilliant. It sits so flat through corners and I am now taking corners almost as fast as what I was in my BMW with Bilstein coilovers(remember I am still running the crap 14inch tyres - the BMW was running 17inch Contis). Better tyres will make a lot of difference.
The Spoon bars work really well together up front and the car feels extremely stiff (so far not too many creaks or squeaks). The front is quite predictable and feels very sturdy.
Considering how low the car is, the ride is quite acceptable for Sydney roads. I am also a bit partial towards a nice firm (though not jarring) ride. The Teins feel very controlled under all situations so far.
Lowering the car has also added a bit of weight to the steering which is a good thing, however it seems to increased the vagueness of the steering. When I first drove the car, it took me a few minutes to re-adjust to the way the car turns. I am now getting used to it, but I had a few interesting moments at first where the car didn't seem to turn as much as it should have been.
Whilst coilovers seem to be a bit over the top and extreme, I still believe that suspension is one of the best places to spend your money, especially in cars that are a bit lacking in the engine department. I am now leaving most cars for dead through twisties and round-a-bouts, etc...even with my tiny 1.5 engine. I am very happy with my purchase, even though it has taken me 6 months wait. It has now been well worth all the problems.
Next on the list is the exhaust, then the V-AFC2 and finishing of the intake. After that I will fit the rims and raise the suspension a bit (just a bit) for practicality.
For now, if anyone else is considering a suspension set-up for their Jazz and they are in Sydney, let me know. I am more than happy for you to check it out.
J
P.S. I also got my Fit badge too!
Wont tein is a bit too hard?
coz in melbourne, there are a lot of tram track which makes ride shit when u come acorss them
Wont tein is a bit too hard?
coz in melbourne, there are a lot of tram track which makes ride shit when u come acorss them
may go try kg/mm since z10 high recommended
Tein models like the HAs are hard, but the Wagon range are a lot softer. They aren't made purely for the track so there are some compromises. Also, by having something like 25 dampening settings helps find a good compromise.
I think the tram track issue relates more to how low you go rather than how stiff. Anyways, Melbourne's tram-track roads are nothing compared to Sydney's pot-hole ridden roads.
But at the end of the day, it all comes down to common sense and knowing what you can do with your suspension setup at certain speeds.
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