Your B16A dyno results?

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Originally Posted by ProECU

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"The 160 was without the block, throttle body and with type-r cams instead of the skunk 2 stage 2 cams"

I'm confused,
So you made 160HP (120kW) with a stock B16 + ITR cams?

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I answerd this question above 1 page ago last night, I even redid the list. Ask a question once...I will answer it, then ask another, Different question. I could always just answer with quotes I suppose. :wave:

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Originally Posted by Bowzer

The new setup mentions he used a GSR Block B18 stock GSR rods and crank (orginal bore 81mm) overbored to 82mm that means you would of had to used oversized pistons i didn't know if they make factory PR3 pistons with a 82mm size???
Specs
B18C GSR
Bore: 82mm (stock is 81mm)
Stroke: 87.20mm

B16A (PR3) Head
Combustion Chamber Volume: 42.70cc

PR3 Pistons give you 6.01cc piston dome displacement...

Head gasket I lets assume stock 3 layer OEM ~ 0.7366mm (0.029in)

Using this calculator
http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/c...c/compcalc.php

Theoretically you get a 11.6 CR and displacement being 1842cc

I think your probably using .25 oversized pistons... I dont think you can get 82mm factory honda pistons... However i do know Wiseco K566M82 is a 82mm bore piston but thats aftermarket

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Wow, I came up with 11.43 using that calculator a month ago....11.6? I'll do it again. I did use a stock head gasket, and aftermarket stock copy pr3 pistons. They may have been Wiseco's. Stock they make 81, 81.5, and 82mm I was told. (at least in the ctr pistons, which If I have to do any block work again I will be upgrading too.

What piston to deck height did you use. With the b16 I got the 11.64, and with the b18 I got 11.32
I have the b16a2 head so i guess it is 11.64 compression! (btw I've have this site on my favorites for ever, It's very handy)

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Originally Posted by strepto

164 WHP with P73 ported head and CTR pistons. This was on a Dynojet in Norway @ sea level.

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Good numbers. That is on the same dyno and sea level as me, and those #'s sound right on. Got a sheet or a 1/4 mile time?

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Originally Posted by albii

who cares what power a car puts to the wheels..its not about that..if a car makes 120kw at the wheels in 4th at 6000rpm whats the use of that...? but the owner will go around saying that he made 120kw but that dont mean shit...i have seen skylines with 400hp only do mid to high 13s why because big hp dont mean quick times..then i have seen gsr lancers with 200hp pull mid to low 13s...why because it has better low to mid range power than a big turbo big hp skyline.

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Good point, thats why I posted my times right off the bat.

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Originally Posted by Illegal

I answerd this question above 1 page ago last night, I even redid the list. Ask a question once...I will answer it, then ask another, Different question. I could always just answer with quotes I suppose. :wave:

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Perhaps you did, Must be the New Zealand accent. :wave:
Let me answer it for you... I'm still not down with these claims,

I guess a 10kw oversated US dyno is a possibility

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ok, this is the low down, AGAIN, for the 160 whp and 109 tourque,

Aem type-r cai
skunk 2 intake manifold
type-r cams
unused cam gears (aem)
stock b16a2 head and block

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Originally Posted by ProECU

Perhaps you did, Must be the New Zealand accent. :wave:
Let me answer it for you... I'm still not down with these claims,

I guess a 10kw oversated US dyno is a possibility

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ok, this is the low down, AGAIN, for the 160 whp and 109 tourque,

Aem type-r cai
skunk 2 intake manifold
type-r cams
unused cam gears (aem)
stock b16a2 head and block

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The dyno is right, the sheet and tuning and car is not a "CLAIM", I have nothing to prove but to add constructively to this thread. I see by the name you tune....you should know better. What dyno do you use? You should understand how this works. What times should I be running then? My friend has the exact same whp #'s and tourqe and runs a 13.02 in a 92 hatch that is 200lbs lighter with slicks. He is beating me by over a second at the track on weight and slicks alone! I'll get him on the highway though.

Looks like I'm # 12 on the site for right now as well.

The fact I dyno many B16's is why I questioned your results.

I have not seen any B16's out here that make 160HP is stock trim

The cams and hondata did a lot for me, I will try top find a dyno of before those were installed.

I have seen as much of a difference as 10whp on stock engines with no mods period.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...6typercams.bmp

Sorry it's so small, have to save it a zoom in. This is my only 3 dyno's before the block swap. The first is pretty basic, just with a few bolt on and i think a vafc. I cant remember what was done for the second one, I think the first and second were just a baseline run and an after tuning run. the third is the one with the hondata and type-r cams i believe. The previous post that had the new dyno was a comparisson of the best (last dyno) with the completed one up to date. So this is all of the sheets i own. As you can see i started from megal beginings as well. Maybe your conversion calculator is wrong?

The air fuel is also on this one.

I just did a dyno run last night

Previous run Stock 90kw

Last night run Pod + cannon 93.8kw

10 pages of useless whinging.

Honestly !

Look, the guy from USA is posting the figures he got and im sure he didnt expect the negative 'please explain' from a few hot-under-the-collar members here. Now im not having a go at anyone but whats the value in argueing over someones figures when they are being honest with dyno readings just to please some silly request. ProECU, mate i know you know your stuff but i am struggling to see the point of argueing over all of this. I can add a few colourful dyno reading ive had over the years but theres no need. (WA members know what i mean)

As the title says. "Your B16A Dyno results"
Let the OH members post what they got and if you have a querie then ask it, instead of replying in a spite of disbelief. Once again we are acting like school kids argueing over dyno machines.
Time to move on i think..

Relax mate, Bad day at the office?
I just couldnt work out if that result was a B16 or B18.

seems you're only adding to the bitching once it was over. Good work