Ha! try Optimax at $1.34 a litre!!
54 litre = $70 something!
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Ha! try Optimax at $1.34 a litre!!
54 litre = $70 something!
Fuel sure is getting expensive. I just did a couple of thousand Ks and worst case being a full 58 litres @ 1.40-something gives me about $80 for a fill up. It is good that there is a full 12 litres or something like that once the reserve light comes on..
A tip - always ask for the receipt and note down your total odo on each. you can then put the data into a spreadsheet and do the calcs when convenient - the difference between last refill's odo will become the mileage. Until then, the compartment just under the armrest serves nicely for those receipts and a pen to annote them.
It will also become a history of your driving plus also if you should ever have a petrol related problem, you have your bases covered. I also like to keep an additional note field of my driving style with that.
Model 05 Luxury
no mods
kms 6,000
Driving conditions: Country sealed roads 20%, 5% city off peak, 75% Expressway and fast B roads. It gets Vtec'd 4 times a week average. Mostly sitting on and indicated 120kmh in 6th.
Average consumption : 7.8 L/100kms.
Just wanted to boast my new fuel consumption record.
I cannot believe how I got it this low because I didn't drive like a granny at all.
I'd say it was about 60% highway although it wasn't all smooth cruising because of morning rush hour traffic. Also, I happened to have quite a few spirited driving sessions with this tank of petrol too.
I managed 7.48L/100km (Did about 169km with around 12.5L of BP Ultimate. can't remember exact distance now).
This was with 36psi at the front and 34psi at the rear. (measured when cold)
I'm thinking that changing to fully synthetic engine oil has helped also.
I still cannot believe this kind of consumption. I used to hover around 8L/100km even when most of the journey was highway crusing.
My First post in this forum :)
Many people say that BP Ultimate is better than Vortex or Optimax. I dont know about Vortex, but certainly Ultimate is better than Optimax. I use Ultimate, and I got a friend who use Optimax. After 3000kms, I notice the difference between those fuels on the exhaust. My friend who uses Optimax got a slightly dirtier exhaust than mine. It is caused by the residue left behind by the fuel after being consumed by the engine. My friend who studied mechanical engineering said that dirtier exhaust is caused by less good fuel (sorry about the english, but I dont want to state that one fuel is better than the other). I'm not sure whether it is true or not, but the logic makes sense to me. Please correct me if I'm wrong :)
Now about the fuel consumption. My Euro is 2005 with AT. I can say my Euro got a very bad fuel consumption. I normally drive at CBD area, so I get roughly about 350kms with 50L of BP Ultimate. Last 2 week, I went to Ecucha at NSW from Melbourne. Return trip takes about 500+ kms (we were lost on the way to Ecucha), and it only consumes less than half tank, with 4 people in my car including me and stuff like my OEM suspension in the trunk.
It sounds weird, but its true. I dont know why myself. The same thing happened to my civic. From Melbourne to Wilson Prompt, 600+km return, it only took around 35L of fuel (forgot what fuel I used).
ngupil, since you are able to get good fuel consumption when driving on the highway and your CBD driving only gives 350km with 50L, then it is because of start-stop traffice plus the fact that many auto drivers tend to press the accelerator past 1/2 throttle to accelerate from stop. I spoke to a few auto Euro owners and they get only 400km out of the tank (before the light comes on, so about 50L or maybe 55L).
It is a heavy foot that really increases fuel consumption. As with the manual, I only need 1/4 throttle in 1st gear and even less than 1/4 throttle in 2nd gear onwards and I get 560km out of 50L driving in Sydney and crossing the tunnel. I don't go onto highways into the countryside. I have driven to canberra, and I could make the journey there and back without refueling!
What car does your friend drive? An Euro as well?
I thought that my consumption is very bad, but I guess if you say other AT Euro owners only got 400km out of the tank, then mine is pretty normal.
What is heavy foot? I normally drive rarely exceeding 3000rpm, and I accelerate slowly. Even old cars from the 70s or 80s sometimes accelerate much faster than I do at the red lights. I also put my gear into neutral way before I stop, to save fuel. I'm not sure whether or not it saves my fuel.
Yes, my friend drives Euro as well, not one, but plenty of them!!. In melbourne, I see as many Euros as Commodores :(
Well for starters - don't put your auto in netural at lights to save fuel. If anything the car will use more fuel and just places more wear on the transmission engaging and disengaging drive all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by ngupil
If you are getting 400kms to the light then it isn't great consumption but it isn't ridiculous either. It equates to about 12.5 litres per 100kms. Nothing great but (and I haven't got close to that in the manual) but still doesn't seem too bad for all Melbourne city driving in an auto.
Are you using 98 ron? When was the last time your air filter was replaced or at least junk removed?
I'm using BP Ultimate, which is 98 octane. I haven't done my 5k service yet. so I dont know what kind of junks are there in my air filter or change the air filter.Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
I think your consumption will improve if you are still under 5,000kms.Quote:
Originally Posted by ngupil
yeah, I met up with 3 other auto Euro owners. They had similar fuel consumption. Another manual owner had similar consumption as mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ngupil
I find that the rpm alone increases fuel consumption by a bit. But the amount of accelerator that you press does increase consumption by a lot. So to me, heavy foot = press a lot of accelerator. I only press about 1/4 of the accelerator when driving normally. That's how I get the low fuel consumption. But yeah, even the 2.2 auto Camry (older model by 2 generations) is faster than I am off the lights. Oh, and don't put to neutral before you stop. Because it doesn't save fuel. If you leave it in D and don't press the accelerator, then it will save fuel because the fuel injectors will stop and momentum will pull the engine to keep it running.
At the traffic lights once, there were 4 Euros including mine.... I don't even see that many commodores at the traffic lights at once! Hehe. Over here, the Euro drivers are mostly over 50 with white hair...
Ok .. I'll try your and yflin's recommendation, and see how the fuel consumption goes. It drives me mad looking at the prices whenever I drive past a petrol station, or when I'm smoking at my balcony, because there is a petrol station opposite my house =(Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Off-topic comment ... are you serious that the Euro drivers are mostly over 50 with white hair??? Even my age is not half of theirs. I should set up a poll and see the result :D