2012 Civic here in Australia

Now we're talking accessories :)
If you're referring to all Hondas then that's not true. Front and rear parking sensors are standard on my luxury Euro, which honestly is a nuisance. If you're a competent driver you don't need those sensors. Cameras are different.

Fact is Hondas are still better quality wise. The Koreans by that you're probably referring to Hyundai and their sister company Kia has still some way to go. They are fast catching up but not quite there yet.

At the end of the day it's a free world. You are free to choose the cars you decide to spend your hard earned cash on.

One thing though what you guys are doing is probably a big favour to those of us still wanting to buy Hondas. You have make Honda sit up and taken notice. They are starting to act to reduce their price and increase their value.

The NSX is returning and there will be more.

Too tell you the truth, Jazz & i30 quality is no different... But I still love the CU2!

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Originally Posted by euromax

The NSX is returning and there will be more.

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Not as Honda though, so we can only hope...

Glad you still like the CU2. As someone who has own one you will know how it drives. Besides at $29990 for a base Euro manual that's a real bargain drive away price.

Jazz should be compared to i20
Civic should be compared to i30

Those are the equivalent range. Admittedly the i30 is a pretty good car but I would still drive a Honda :)

I have no idea the NSX is not coming back as a Honda but what does it matter I won't be buying one :)

After Honda, I'd be looking at a BMW next.

Nope the NSX will definitely be sold in Australia as a Honda it has been announced.
Timeframe is 2015 - manufacturing in Ohio

It will be a V6 mid engine, all wheel drive and hybrid.

You have 3 years to save up for this toy.

hmm well having a tough time getting any discounts really in WA. my best bet is getting discounts off addons like door guards, rear sensors, tinting etc I reckon. Whats normally doable? 50% off rrp?

Are honda tints much good, or better than say tintacar?

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Originally Posted by didier

hmm well having a tough time getting any discounts really in WA. my best bet is getting discounts off addons like door guards, rear sensors, tinting etc I reckon. Whats normally doable? 50% off rrp?

Are honda tints much good, or better than say tintacar?

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have you tried a car broker? or fleet provider

do they have use with new models? i heard they dont achieve more than bargaining yourself...

It's a dealer arranged tinting with some third party company. Honda does no tinting on their own.

You should try and get at least window tinting, Civic logo carpet floor mats. After that try for one other big item like fog lights or rear sensors. If you don't get those thrown in at least get 50% on rrp of the item. I got fog lights for free as well that's because it's a 2nd Honda I got from them in 2 months. A Euro now a Civic.

Good luck! and as stated after Aprils stock, it reverts back to coming from Thailand.

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exactly! I think HA need to consider this when they decide the price and what should be included on the car. While the govt are talking to make reverse camera as standard on all car in the future, reverse sensor is still optional in the "NEW" civic -_-"

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u do know the best selling small car in australia the Mazda 3 does not come standard with sensors? not one model has sensors standard, not even the MPS!

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u do know the best selling small car in australia the Mazda 3 does not come standard with sensors? not one model has sensors standard, not even the MPS!

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I know eh... thats a surprise as well... But personally, do you see the new civic is better than 3 in all aspect (e.g. can it beat the 3 to be the best selling small car)?

Comparing Civic with Mazda 3 is like comparing Commodore with Falcons. You either like one or hate the other.

They are both good cars but IMO the Honda engines are their strong points. I've driven both Mazda 3 and the new Civic and I'll pick the Civic as far as driving goes. The Imprezas has the slight edge there because of AWD.

The Mazda 3 appeal is the all round package and that includes the price.

Similarly comparison between the Jazz and Mazda 2, the Jazz wins out any day where driving enjoyment is concern.

So you pick a car not because it's the best seller. For many of us we rather pick one we like and not follow the crowd.

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Comparing Civic with Mazda 3 is like comparing Commodore with Falcons.

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If its commodore vs falcons, then its easy for me: none of both :p

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...we rather pick one we like and not follow the crowd.

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Well said! :thumbsup: