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Once again, my knowledge of Mr Spetz's ride is that it is MIVEC & nothing else so this was purely deducted from that, further mods are unknown to me as I did initially inform that I hadn't read all the previous posts in this topic...and believe me mate, I don't go out of my way to use "perceived" intelligent vocab...Quote:
Originally Posted by MR-VTEC
'my knowledge of Mr Spetz's ride is that it is MIVEC & nothing else so this was purely deducted from that'Quote:
Originally Posted by CRX-Ando
what was deducted from what:confused: i already stated that it was n/a. the whole point that i was getting at was that you said it would be naive to compare a turbo car to an n/a car then you went on to compare your boosted crx to spetz's n/a lancer:rolleyes:
as for your stint about how you dont go out of your way to use intelligent vocab, my opinion and many others opinion is that you do, but whatever man im not here to argue with you about that.;)
It was deducted from his post depicting 150kW...apologies as I didn't feel the desire the read the prior 9 or so pages...all is good as I have no issues with anyone...I too am not here to cause debates/stir amongst fellow forumers but in the face of the endless amount of crap that is evidenced on forums these days, the way I post should no way be the topic of discussion...inform me where I've crossed the line in regards to forum rules & I'll cease my contribution on here...if not, I'll continue on...we all have our own opinions & I regard yours as such...peace out :)
Thanks MR-VTEC ;)
And CRX-Ando... you have a boosted VTEC.
Put a Evo IX MIVEC turbo engine in my car.
We'll see who has the better of who :)
Although I don't think comparing VTEC to turbo is so "naive".
I like to think that both a turbo and VTEC is a gimmick to make a small capacity engine go quick. So they are somehow comparable in my opinion.
I could well follow up with a [insert boosted NSX engine here] in my CRX reply but it accomplishes nothing...I think after 10 pages, most of us are somewhat over it...VTEC this...MIVEC that...both marvels in their own right so let's leave it as that...if it runs to my satisfaction and serves my needs whether boosted or N/A, I'd be happy with either of them to reside in my garage...Quote:
Originally Posted by spetz
no way manz
u know what your a panzy!
i wouldnt be satisfied with wat i got unless i know that iv beaten every single car that i could possibly take onnn!!!!!
(joking on the panzy comment pleaze dun hurt me!!!!)
but yer its true its sensless toking bout mivec vS vtec because itl keep going onn and onn and onnn and onn and on! its useless
but if u ask me i think both of them are evenly matched but with the mivec having jus a lil bit more torque (saying this only because the only mivec i know is in the FTO)
Reason why FTO has more torque is because they have an extra 2 more cylinders and a 0.2 (10%) more litres on top of the dc2r's =). Now if FTO was running only on 4cylinders with MIVEC... wonder what would happen =)....Quote:
Originally Posted by SpOOn-FED
who in here is up for a test drive in my car? too many shit going around in this thread. Too many highly technical responses base on what you read or hear from another source. The problem here is, people tend to jump into conclusion all the time that MIVEC is rubbish when they haven't even driven a mivec car all their life or perhaps some user here don't even have a VTEC. Fair enough, VTEC has a welln known reputation when it comes to Natural Aspiration - but don't you guys ever think it's only bcoz of the aftermarket support they get from a well know company? (lucky bastard :) :) )
The engine design is relatively similar to one another, so I would assum that a mivec car would also respond well to a similar modifications your average VTEC has got. I am a non-conformist, I love my MIVEC that I wouldn't even swap it over normal B16's or B18's but I want my next car tobe a honda, equipped with JAPSPEC B18C-R - my car already ran mid 14's in stock trim. Only Stock ITR's can clock this time. What does that mean? They go fairly quick right? It' just bad that it wud cost me an arm and a leg to modify
C'mon guys, let stop being bias for once in our life. I must admit I'm a VTEC lover myself and thats d reason why I check out some cool honda base forum such as this and honda-tech etc etc. I got so much respect for this engine.... I'm surrounded with VTEC in my circle of friends
there's no reason why we can't or shouldn't compare factory turbo and factory N/A cars...
that's part of the fun.:thumbsup::thumbsup:
We'll have to agree to disagree ;)
And CRX-Ando, don't make me put a 6G72TT into my lancer! with the AWD drivetrain... BUAHAHAH (I wish anyway)
guy's just to let u know i think one of the best variable valve timing systems around is BMW and their Dual VANOS which allows a wider duration than any other company around..
they say it is infinitely variable.. but they do have a min and max point.. but unlike vtec which seems to have only 2 profiles.. VANOS allows different profiles at different ranges..
I think this has been covered.
And although double VANOS has variable timing it doesn't have variable lift.
Besides, i-VTEC has variable timing and lift.