Subframe/swaybar 101 EK/EM/EJ

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Originally Posted by suprfast

Well if i were you i would go with what has been proven time and again(ASR). The whiteline looks just like the Comptech unit and it appearance seems to show an inferior product to the ASR, but a superior product to nothing. The ASR will put the force over a larger portion. The ASR brace is also made to be used with many aftermarket as well as OEM pieces and also has the option for the big 32mm RACE bar. PM me if you want a price on the ASR bar. Im a dealer for them here in the states and have a large qty of them. Ask around, im a stand up guy.
Kris

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So I keep hearing:thumbsup:!

I'll shoot you a pm shortly.

Stops this from happening :eek:

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2135/noasr16em.jpg

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Originally Posted by BlitZ

hey barfootbonzai.. heheeh

you arent using yours are u? as i think the CTR sway doesnt require the the special washers hahah... caring to sell them for a mint...

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I was gonna PM you about them, but i used 2 as washers hahaha. PM me if you're really desperate and i guess i could take them out for you. Make it worth my while :p

Guys, another quick Q:

How does the ASR Brace/ITR rear sway bar kit compare with the whiteline kit?

So many options out there. I'm definately going for th ASR brace, but just want to clarify which swaybar would be better, the whiteline 22mm adjustable, or the ITR sway that comes as a kit with the ASR brace...

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Originally Posted by DomenEK

Guys, another quick Q:

How does the ASR Brace/ITR rear sway bar kit compare with the whiteline kit?

So many options out there. I'm definately going for th ASR brace, but just want to clarify which swaybar would be better, the whiteline 22mm adjustable, or the ITR sway that comes as a kit with the ASR brace...

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I would go with the itr or ctr bar, as you potentially have problems with the whiteline bar fitting. The issue is that there is a bend in the whiteline bar where it meets the brace and without modifying something (and potentially loosing the strength of the brace) you may not get it to fit.

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Originally Posted by suprfast

Well if i were you i would go with what has been proven time and again(ASR). The whiteline looks just like the Comptech unit and it appearance seems to show an inferior product to the ASR, but a superior product to nothing. The ASR will put the force over a larger portion. The ASR brace is also made to be used with many aftermarket as well as OEM pieces and also has the option for the big 32mm RACE bar. PM me if you want a price on the ASR bar. Im a dealer for them here in the states and have a large qty of them. Ask around, im a stand up guy.
Kris

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... the comptech unit will work as well as the ASR one.... which is far superior to the whiteline one

the comptech and ASR ktis both offer solid connections and placed the moutning holes close then the whiteline one..

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Originally Posted by Zdster

I would go with the itr or ctr bar, as you potentially have problems with the whiteline bar fitting. The issue is that there is a bend in the whiteline bar where it meets the brace and without modifying something (and potentially loosing the strength of the brace) you may not get it to fit.

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Ok, cool.

If the ASR brace/ITR swaybar kit is adjustable (i.e. the swaybar is adjustable [comes with adjustable end links?]), then I will opt for this (Kris [suprfast]is getting back to me on this).

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Originally Posted by DomenEK

Ok, cool.

If the ASR brace/ITR swaybar kit is adjustable (i.e. the swaybar is adjustable [comes with adjustable end links?]), then I will opt for this (Kris [suprfast]is getting back to me on this).

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adjustable end links? u mean the extra holes at the end of the sway bar (like the whiteline one)?

adjustability isnt good... it causes the arms to not sit directly vertical...... whiteline recommends stacking the washer out the back of the control arms so the arms sit upright.. heheeh

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Originally Posted by DomenEK

Guys, another quick Q:

How does the ASR Brace/ITR rear sway bar kit compare with the whiteline kit?

So many options out there. I'm definately going for th ASR brace, but just want to clarify which swaybar would be better, the whiteline 22mm adjustable, or the ITR sway that comes as a kit with the ASR brace...

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i got the Asr brace with the whiteline 22mm adjustable swaybar on my ek 4hatch. I can tell you now that the whiteline bar wont work with the asr brace without modification. this is because where the d brackets and bushings go on the asr brace, there are small bends on the swaybar. the brackets & bushings need to be further out or further in on the swaybay. i cant explain this well but there are pics earlyer on in this thread.

i would try get the asr brace & itr bar combo.:thumbsup:

ok so sure the ASR leads in bracing, but i was thinking of being different and running all BEAKS products. including: subframe reinforcement kit and lower tie bar. i have heard that you need to drill out larger holes for the reinforcement kit to properly fit, is this true?

so has any of guys tried doing it this way did it work properly as i got my 22mm sway and asr brace sitting and wanting to install it just want to double check if i should do it that way

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Originally Posted by Muzz

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...7/IMG_1766.jpg
Mounting bracket for whiteline kit, and with tubes removed^^^^

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j1...7/IMG_1768.jpg

This is the only way i can see to mount the whiteline bar to the asr brace, as the bar has slight bends in it where the d bracket and bushing would go when using the normal mounting holes on the asr brace( look at 2nd photo). i cant think of anyother way. As you can see, the bar will be about 3mm rearward of its origional spot, this wont have and negative impact will it?

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I am also planning to put in CTR rear sway and researching on information regarding to the "reinforcement". It seems that ASR is the best to go for. wellz, I personally like the Beak's most...it just looks great. lol

The CTR rear sway is about $250 with every thing that i need but the ASR cost somewhere about $250 to $300. Is there any other product that can do the job?

And i also comes with another question, the 22mm swaybar does tear out the subframe so we need to put in something like ASR to make it strong. So what about the CTR itself? Is the subframe from CTR is different from EK4 or EK1 so that we have to put in the ASR?