s2000 vs Evo6 vs Sti

I think too many people are digging up "facts" without having real world experience.

Look at it this way, no owner of s2k will admit the evo and sti as in their class *speed wise stock for stock*. The s2k is a unique/classic vehicle that will stand the test of time. The engineering and the attention to detail put onto it is in its own class along with NSX.

Having said that honda didnt create the car to beat stis or evos, the car is not made to do that. It is a completly different experience. If you have the luck of owning both i am sure you can appreciate both cars equally.

Looking at a single race scenario?
- 1/4 mile: s2k would get eaten coz the others have AWD and rexies take off really well
- hills: s2k would shine as its designed to take turns really well, and as mentioned above, understeer would plague the other two.

Now if you're using this as a way to decide which to buy, consider this:
- If you want to launch the old rexies, it can be difficult without just revvin to 6k and droppin it, and they screw their gearboxes etc doin this.

I dont know anything bad really about the other 2 like this. Really its a poor comparison. Comparing the STi and evo is ok, but the sk2 is a car in an entirely different class of its own, designed for different purposes, and different racing environments.

Accordin to top gear Evo's and Sti's are extremely good cars..infact they are quicker than an nsx type-r round a track..dont believe me? here http://www.topgear.com/content/tgonb...times/thestig/ . As said above, these cars are in a different category, the honda is exceptional engineering and will probably be a fantastic drive, whereas the evo and the sti are designed to get from A-B very quickly..Oh sorry on the list theres only an evo 8, but that doesnt matter because the evo 6 is actually faster...(another track test doen on fifth gear)

For a thread that reads which car would win, tuned on a downhill touge, a hell of a lot of crap has been mentioned. Id love to know how the RX-8 and and NSX-R comes into the equation, and 1/4 mile times, about as useful as **** on a bull. The top drivers in japan have tested all three cars tuned by the best tuners in japan. THE S2000 IS FASTER, and by that i mean it gets the better sector time. (BMI volume 8) Now stock for stock, or track times, or prices are totaly different questions for different threads.

Around black spur With my Fujitsubo exhaust and a Tein Flex kit, My s2000 was quiker than my mates stock Evo 9 and my other mates stock MY04 STI, considerably. The STI was fighting with understeer and the EVO was yawing( the diffs were interfering and slowing it down) obvioulsy only in some sections, where as my car went around with no fuss whatsoever. We swaped cars and the result was the same. On the freeway getting there, my ass was handed to me, clearly.And im sure on a track with any decent straights the same thing will happen. STOCK for STOCK all cars do handle exceptionally well, with the turbos having the edge (in some circumstances, probably most) due to corner exit speed and a shit load more tourque. On tight sections though they both can lack, due to chassis and AWD mainly.

Yes the S2k lacks tourque, but with tuning as J's racing and Amuse have shown us it is easily overcome. To be honest i dont think the the AWD's and the s2000 should be mentioned in the same breath. There totally differnt cars. When purchasing my car, the EVO 7 just came out, and if it wasnt for my love of NA and VTEC id be riding around with a 4G63. In regard to determening wich is the better car, well basically it depends on the person. Some ppl like apples some like oranges, its a personal thing. In regards to answering the threads question, i think BMI has answered that for us. But im sure this is not the end of this discussion.

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Originally Posted by WhiteAP1

Around black spur With my Fujitsubo exhaust and a Tein Flex kit, My s2000 was quiker than my mates stock Evo 9 and my other mates stock MY04 STI, considerably. The STI was fighting with understeer and the EVO was yawing( the diffs were interfering and slowing it down) obvioulsy only in some sections, where as my car went around with no fuss whatsoever. We swaped cars and the result was the same. On the freeway getting there, my ass was handed to me, clearly.And im sure on a track with any decent straights the same thing will happen. STOCK for STOCK all cars do handle exceptionally well, with the turbos having the edge (in some circumstances, probably most) due to corner exit speed and a shit load more tourque. On tight sections though they both can lack, due to chassis and AWD mainly.

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Thanks to WhiteAP1 contribution, we have the S2K on the top of the podium with da all 4 paw turbos lagging behind haha, on the Touge that is haha! Even if WhiteAP1's S2K is slightly modded, this could be argued as to balance the older car with the latest machines.

"Yes the S2k lacks tourque, but with tuning as J's racing and Amuse have shown us it is easily overcome."

hmmmm.... easily...?

"Now STOCK FOR STOCK, or track times, or prices are totaly different questions for different threads."
"Around black spur With my Fujitsubo exhaust and a Tein Flex kit, My s2000 was quiker than my mates STOCK Evo 9 and my other mates STOCK MY04 STI, considerably. "

???????????? *scratches head*

????????????? you say.

Well the tuners have not gone past the 250hp mark (237hp stock) so id say thats "easily done" IMO

Yes i have slight mods (next to none) and already theres quite a significant difference between the cars(on the touge). I was also trying to capture the handling characteristics of the AWDs and give a comparison. If the AWDs had exhaust and suspension,they couldnt have made proper use of the extra kws on such a road to begin with, and although suspension may have helped correct the handling issues a bit, it may have shortened the gap but the result would have been the same. Even the AWD owners agreed.

What im trying to get at is even with similar tuning stages on all three cars, i believe the S2k will always be that little bit ahead. Im going by my personal experience and the all out models featured on BMI. With only suspension and exhaust i had an easily noticable advantage. It simply comes down to agility.
Its possible to argue with similar mods the AWDs may have had the upper hand,so i answer with smile BMI volume 8.


Further,the thread is asking about a tuned touge battle, so track battle discussions or price comparisons really have nothing to do with that. IMO

i hope that scratches that itch

Man, talk about Touge, here the annoucement...

*Insert Initial D Battle Stage*

S2000 vs CT9A vs GDB

Touge Battle

S2000 WINS!!!

Okay, enough that for now (too much Initial D in your system = lots of stupid ideas).

For the Tuned S2Ks, the "quoted" power output for both the Powerhouse Amuse Tora Orange AP1 and the J's Racing Yellow Black AP1 were quoted to be around the 250ps? can't remember but essentially nothing much on top of the stock cars. Most of the work done on the two AP1s was lightening it really, "nothing" to do with the power output. Hehe, I'd say "quoted" and "nothing" cause they do have somethings like Full titanium exhaust systems, tuned chips or ecus? and inhouse made air filters...

Hehe, my apology for the price and track discussion, another member put it up, I only replied... Onto topic people, anymore personal experience?

How can you pass up a nice STi :p lol
WRX = LUUUUUUUUUUURV ahaha

s2k vs evo6 vs sti - What model s2k/sti are we talkin??

I think thats the Big Question, the dude (who I think doesn't come back to this thread) did say so its anyones guess. I'm guessing he's talking about 99 models since he said EVO 6?

Sti & Evo are heavier with AWD and will wear out front tyres long before S2k which is lighter and better balanced. Downhill doesn't require much torque either so add to that the S2k's late braking ability and inherent balance, the S2k will be waiting for a chance to pass once the first corner is passed & if Gan-san is driving it'll definitely win.

Gan-san = sick kient ahahaha