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Spring rates are what I want to know the most about.
I'm curious whats people are running in our AU road condtions etc.
Higher the number, harder the dampener, but I want comfort, height adjustability, and damper adjustability.
Everyone keeps telling me PSS9 and KW V3!!! LOL. But then that brings me back to the spring rates..... whats a good spring rating to use in my situation?
Use anything above 10kg. And the higher the number doesn't mean the dampers are harder. Some coils might have real low springrates, but their dampers are shocking which make the coil rough and crap.
Don't worry about comfort mate!! It's a weekender, but seriously PSS9's are best for your situation, and probably the best coil for that price range.
I'm thinking about purchasing coilovers too. Does anybody have pictures of the S with pss9 coilovers lowered to its maximum setting? Purchasing coilovers for the S seems pretty misleading as not many people feedback about them and first hand information is limited. Hows the tein monoflex compare to other coilovers mentioned by vyet? I had a set on my civic and was pretty pleased by the amount I could lower the vehicle by.
Mine are 10k front and rear. For the spring rates. I got mine from JDM yard. They list at 2.5 k, may be able to source cheaper from him, I know I did.
i always recommend TODA fightex as they are very very good. I had a set of dual adjust on my EG civic.
the dampener has excellent control and they are also separately adjustable, height and spring adjustment are totally independent.
dampening force very good and also the spring rates are right for s2000's.
I would recommend 10kg front and back for spring rates. going too hard is no good for the road conditions in Oz.
civicem1: u dun really wanna lower the s2000 too much.. the rear drive shafts will wear really fast and u will hear a clicking noise coz they aren't centred in the diff properly due to the angle of the drive shaft. u will need plates to bring the drive shafts in more, J's racing and Spoon make them. then also u gotta think about bump steer. so lowering to the max is not the best idea dude..
I have driven two dropped s2ks, and they handled like shit. It throws everything off.
exactly.... ur 100% correct Ferrari.. they are low already and have a good balance of weight 50/50 and a low centre of gravity..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrari
lowering it too much will just ruin a S2000... u lose speed and cornering capabilities... no point driving it then huh??? max would be to lower it 2.5inches from stock... with good coil overs it will still handle relatively well.. unless u got all the diff plates and bump steer brackets then thats a diff story...
agree with u hands down dude..
I'm quite sure you can source Buddyclub RSD off ebay for around $1300USD + shipping etc, it should still be under $2000. I'm not convinced by Buddyclub's quality nor their customer service in Australia, so do not let that be a determining factor.
As someone stated before, the spring rates don't mean a great deal. It's to do with the valving of the shocks etc. If you look at the KW V3 and the KW CS, they both use 515lbs/in springs (9.2kg/mm approx.), although the CS are valved towards being a more track focussed application, hence the harsher ride on the streets.
On another note, I read on s2ki that KW make the most of valving to achieve what they want from a coilover whilst getting away with the lowest spring rate possible.
Ferrari: How much lower than stock do you have your car now? And have you added any supporting mods such as a BSK, RCA, drive shaft spacers etc? I trust your opinion on the handling side of things!!
blusir2: everytime a thread like this comes up you are always banging on about the Toda Fightex DA coilovers. Have you got a set on your s2000? If not, then why are you recommending them to members here? I have also yet to read any review from anyone on these coilovers, please enlighten me if you know of any. Also Brad is after coilovers around $2000, I'm quite sure the Toda coils are over $3000.
I think for the price range it's hard to go past the KW V3s (provided you can get a good deal), the PSS9s are not that much cheaper. End of the day both are top quality German made suspension. I'll report back on the former shortly though :)
Rolled: i have driven and sat in one that has TODA Fightex. Also as i have mentioned I owned a set that i had on my civic. That is why i recommend them. Not to say that they are not expensive. But from what i know and the different coil overs i have owned I thought they were the best.
Just trying to help and give my opinion and experience.. I am entitled to my opinion as you are to yours... need to relax dude...
the spring rates do serve a purpose, they are the basic parts of your coil over suspension system which will give you the bound and rebound, what the shock does is control the rate at which it will bound and rebound after going over a bump or groove in the ground... hence the difference in spring rates... normally the heavier the car the heavier the spring to counter act the weight of the car.. that is why they HAVE different spring rates.. there is a purpose..
eg. they have a spec for the spring like 10kg/mm this means you have to put a load of 10kgs on the spring before it will compress 1mm. So when you go over a bump your coil-over spring will travel in comparison to that idea. What the shock does is control that rate, coz you obviously dun want it to rebound at a un-controlled rate otherwise the car will handle erratically. If your spring rate is lower though then the speed at which the spring will rebound is lower as it is not as hard as one with a higher spring rate. So the car will feel a bit more loose after going over bumps, like it travels more in the vertical direction.
The shock is very important like the other guys have said but the spring rate should not be neglected in your decision. It makes the difference between a harder and less harder ride. If you choose a hard spring and your shocks aren't up to the controlling of them then the ride will be compromised. Normally the factory recommended rate is suitable for the shock. 10kgs is what a lot of manufacturers recommend for a sporty/race ride.. thats from Tein and Toda that i know of anyway. i saw others recommending it too...
hope i have been correct in explaining and maybe helped u a bit...
Toda coilovers arnt exactly for everyone imo. they are super expensive! such a waste on Aussie roads.
Has anyone here experienced KW variant 3???
give me a week Fly :D
A whole thread on s2ki about PSS9 vs KW V3 height settings:Quote:
Originally Posted by civicem1
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=621484