We just may get the JDM CTR in Australia.

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Originally Posted by IAMVTEC

but then most Holden/Ford loyalists are not the most rational consumers or intelligent humans, actually where we come from we call them as morons.

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That's gold!:thumbsup:

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but then most Holden/Ford loyalists are not the most rational consumers or intelligent humans, actually where we come from we call them as morons.

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nnot really...maybe you should join them :thumbdwn:

Dont think its fair you make a blanketing, sweeping statement like that. Try towing a boat or caravan in your Civic :wave:

I said most, not all. MOST

I think a lot of Honda owners are morons too, if that helps.

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Originally Posted by UNLS1

nah i moved on from the old days...
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They are not old days. The days still exist of us who want a Track car from the factory, which Honda used to provide.
"Honda Australia managing director and CEO Yasuhide Mizuno told Wheels. “I think Australian people love racing and young people like these high performance vehicles."
The JDM CTR is one of these. Let's hope it comes here. Things like built-in Oil Coolers and baffled Oil sumps show it's intent.

However, I am not bashing the FN2, it fits a market and I'm sure is a great drive. I do not believe that it's primary purpose is to be a track car, but that is totally fine, it is still a great car for the people it is aimed at. Two different aims, two different cars. See the difference and let each be!

ur right chuck, as i said b4 it will be good having 2 cars to cater for both kinds of cutomers.

If they really come, I can afford and I will order one stright away, but hopefully they just detune and don't remove the bambo brake! As we can easily modify the ECU to fix the detune, but it's very expensive and hard to get the original bambo brake.

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Originally Posted by UNLS1

thats the thing with the jap one, all the internals and sus, interior ect are type R and great!, but from the outside just looks like a riced up civic with bolt on cosmetics from autobarn!

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I think enthusiast Type R owners are less concerned about appearances than what's under the skin. The way I see it, the FD2R basically has a form created by a function of it's requirement for aerodynamic considerations (e.g. that rear wing does actually create downforce) within a broader limitation of the main body panels in which (I would assume) it would not be economically viable to modify. Sure, the car has to have a sporting element about it's looks as well, but it shouldn't look as though a STYLIST has dictated the aesthetics, which, in my book is a big turn-off.

I think they did a good job with the FD2R as it looks sufficiently different to the standard car without being OTT with stylistic elements like silver painted fuel filler covers and shrouds around brake rotors to make it look bigger!

If we were more concerned about looks and cared little for substance, we'd probably all drive Alfa's.

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Originally Posted by IAMVTEC

but then most Holden/Ford loyalists are not the most rational consumers or intelligent humans, actually where we come from we call them as morons.

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:thumbdwn:
I disagree. You should not generalize people/brands like that, every brand has their rotten apples.

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Originally Posted by IAMVTEC

45k is at edge of reasonable. 50k is not reasonable price. You cant charge something at more than 2 times the price of base model, its not that different.

Of course cannot comapre with Aurion. Aurion is a whole class up! in size and engine capacity. So should be more expensive than a Civic.

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that's why. aurion sx6, 200kw V6, only around 43k(onroad).so what for buying JDM/UKDM CTR ?:eek:

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Originally Posted by Jaso

nnot really...maybe you should join them :thumbdwn:

Dont think its fair you make a blanketing, sweeping statement like that. Try towing a boat or caravan in your Civic :wave:

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if for towing caravan/boat, don't buy sedan, drive 4WD !:cool:

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Originally Posted by IAMVTEC

Agreed. We dont need any more FD shaped 4 door honda shape sedans in Australia. The streets are already overrun with Accord Euros and Civics, sometimes I feel like Im stuck in a Honda sponsored game when driving on the streets. Its obsurd

bring in something new and exciting.

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from bussiness prespective, YES! need a diversity of product.
but sometimes theory and reality are different :confused:

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Originally Posted by dmx

that's why. aurion sx6, 200kw V6, only around 43k(onroad).so what for buying JDM/UKDM CTR ?:eek:

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Why is the Aurion even compared to the CTR?

If you believe an Aurion SX6 is a "performance car" that could rival a CTR, then marketing at Toyota has done it's job.

Compare Apples with Apples, not Apples and Oranges.
Comparing power outputs is not one of them, nor is suggesting other cars that doesn't fit the target market.

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Originally Posted by NeoNode

Why is the Aurion even compared to the CTR?

If you believe an Aurion SX6 is a "performance car" that could rival a CTR, then marketing at Toyota has done it's job.

Compare Apples with Apples, not Apples and Oranges.
Comparing power outputs is not one of them, nor is suggesting other cars that doesn't fit the target market.

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you cant even compare apple to apples at the moment, ctr is at its own league with n/a engine rivaling armies of turbos

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Originally Posted by sitta

you cant even compare apple to apples at the moment, ctr is at its own league with n/a engine rivaling armies of turbos

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Hot Hatch vs Hot Hatch is considered Apples vs Apples.
While a Hot Hatch vs Family Car with bodykit is not.

Put it this way, is a Mercedes E55 vs BMW any less relevant than a Golf GTi vs CTR?

Look beyond just their engine aspiration of choice and you'll see they are designed to compete in the same market.