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Hi UNLS1..do you currently sell hondas through a dealership? What do you think of the price that I have been quoted - is there much room to negotiate?
I am based in Melbourne - any tips on how to get a decent deal? Also, is it possible to get beige trim cloth instead of grey ones on the civic vti at all?
Thanks for correction.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNLS1
Civic from 2009 only come with full length airbags and VSC, TC in all models.
I was about the 2008 model backward
Any updates on price for recent civic sales?
The lastest offer from one of my friend when i ask for Sport version MY10 (Auto) = 32.400 AUD Drive Away with Floor mat, trunk protection, 5 years warranty, full tank of fuel 2 times (when done the deal and when 1000km check up)
Thanks tinymoon. I was hoping I could hear more on the VTI and VTI limited as I do not think the Sport would be anywhere close to my budget!
Also any thoughts guys on buying a used Euro luxury 2003/2004 at 18-19K vs buying a new civic VTI for 21K? I am getting a bit confused!!!
32000 sport + auto ~~ very cheap !!
yeah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
got the car yesterday ~~~~lovin it !
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c3...tlewhite21.jpg
kings park eh? nice spot :) was that the limited edition?
nice bobblehead on ur dash, are you chinese btw? ;)
I like the white but reckon gets dirty looking too easy (too lazy to wash cars much) but looks great there.
THX :)
THAT is limited edition.
I am not Chinese, i am thai
i like white and black :)~
but my girlfiend's partner don't like black that y ^^
well, spoke to another honda mechanic in perth yesterday, he said honda north is the cheapest of three dealers in perth, probably. said just haggle with em should be able to get my price. :)
depend on your wanna trade in or not,
if you trade in, Honda burswood offer much higher than Honda north :)
grats alvin. That thing is sexy.
Just for a price update. Friend just recently got a limited edition civic auto in black for 24k flat.
WOW - in sydney i guess?
anyway that makes it about $3750 off the RRP...! 50% more than I was aiming for at best....
alot of negotiation there or what? did he get any extras or extended warranty etc??
In Sydney yes.
Maybe just mats. I don't remember. Assuming nothing, it's still an awesome deal.
man, I'd be indebted if you could find out how the heck he got the price down like that.......
Just update price information from my friend (Honda dealer)
Civic limited edtion: MAN (23.000 - 24.000) AUTO (24.000 - 25.000)
VTI-L MAN (23.000 - 24.000) AUTO (26.000 - 28.000)
Sport MAN (28.000 - 32.000) AUTO (32.000 - 36.000)
Depend on colour, accessories, options, sale consultant....
Civic limited edtion: MAN (23.000 - 24.000) AUTO (24.000 - 25.000)
that's cheap ....
i bought much more than that...
yea, you paid almost the retail price? you also got white so that should have been cheaper than all the other colours by about $450... By the looks of it taking off $2000 is the minimum - and taking off up to $4000 is possible.
Hi All - been browsing the forums the last few weeks preparing myself for a Honda purchase. Went into a dealer and got one today:
2010 VTI Manual Dyno Blue
Front and Rear mud flaps
Rear parking sensors
Tinting
Mats
Acsent Lighting (makes everything blue inside)
Premium Plates
Tank of petrol (but I think that is given)
$22,000 drive away. Stand your ground guys and I think you'll be able to do yourself a good deal!
Thanks to all previous posters for giving me a good indication of what I could get. You all have been really helpful
hmm, cool - $1000 off the rrp + a few nice extras.
I'm interested to know coz I want them - how much was the Ascent Lighting? (or could you work out the approx worth/cost to them?)
and what city are you in?
For Ascent Lighting I was quoted $313 brand new. In the scheme of things, this is nothing so I was able to get them for "free". I am in Sydney. I started off at $21K as that is that is the lowest I have heard other people on the forum have got theirs for. I relented a little and struck a deal at $22K. Let me know if you want any more info.Quote:
Originally Posted by didier
Rear parking sensor and acsent light cost almost and matt already cost more than 1000. You got the good deal, mate. By the way how is the ascent light? If you have any chance to post some pix of them because i am thinking to get it fitted into my car. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by cloudstrife23
thanks!
what about the illuminated blue sill garnish (the blue glow at bottom of doors) did you get this or know the rough cost?
and are they making you wait for your car?
any tricks bringing them down toward your lowball offer?
like, I mean did you go for bottom price first, and then demanded addons for the minimum price they offered? thats probably the strategy I'll go with since I don't need any extras really - prefer basement price :)
Before I went in I was tossing up which strategy to use. In the end I decided to state all the extras I really wanted and then we were getting to the pointy end of negotiations I tossed in the Accent lighting.
how long they gonna make you wait for your car?
Picking up the car this Friday!! Can't wait.
woah nice! no 7 week wait?? :) sounds like they'll just do the mods in Aus eh
umm, so any tips you learnt from the verbal battle on price?
I am not a pro negotiator to deal with dealer but here are some tips that i have use:Quote:
Originally Posted by didier
- Search around and get quote from as many as dealer you can
-Pick up the best you think you can deal with asking them to do matching price
-I always take other friend or girlfriend along to have balance in order to have better deal (like your gf or friend do not want to deal but you seem to ok, like your friend say that you would have better deal with other...budget things with gf blah blah whatever you can play with)
-Ending up with the list of extras that you want, which are mandatory that your gf would agree on the deal.
-Saying that is not the colour you want (or whatever reason to cancel the deal if your (or your gf)'s demands not be satisfied
I got mine VTI-L Auto (27.700) black metalic paint ,spoiler, service free 10.000, 5 year warranty, floor matt, trunk protection matt, 2 tank of fuel for first check-up 1000km and 10.000 service. tinting window, free luxury car wash card (5 times), exhaust tips, dust and pollen filter, key chain, Honda hat ....
wow, thats like $6000 off the RRP - nice job, and great tips :)
however the VTI-L is pretty bad value for money, considering it costs $7000 more for a handful of features.
Didier, I recommend doing a reverse bidding. i.e. Offer a ridiculous price like and work your way up in $100 increments. Also don't do the traditional ask for low price then ask for accessories route. That might just be wasting both your money and the dealers money. Come up with a list of accessories you need/want, go into dealerships with your printed list. Slam it down, state that you're serious about buying, offer your price. When asked about flexibility of price, say zero flexibility. Don't feel guilty when they state that you want to pay 22k for a 30k car. No one pays retail. In the industry they're known as "woodies." They are like Christmas, happens once a year. Don't be a woody. Take the exact same list to the next dealer for true comparison. Rinse and repeat. Will take up a lot of time, but the savings will amount the time you spent to hundreds of dollars per hour. Good luck.
I had no choice but VTI-L (actually paid 27.000 after everything sellte down such as tax ....)
1st GF does not like Sport version
2nd By that time the Sport version is not that price (get quoted 36.000)
3rd I just prefer to fully upgrade the audio system and other accessories than buying a Sport (Some say i was silly)
:D
Uhm, i do not know why but i prefer soft-talk than just throw down the list of demands at my own price.
I rather slowly talk and soft talk with with patience, i might go around and come back to see what is the best offer available for me than just come straight to the point
Till now, i had only 4 deals (Civic VTI-L. Jazz. Mitsubishi Aspire, BMW) for my whole family most of them i got what i ask, want, prefer ...
I agree with Mikevtech's approach. I went in listed all my extras before going into the negotiation process. I have tried the other approach and it didn 't go as well. However - it really comes down to how you go on the day. Best of luck didier.
hmm, go with the extras wanted from start eh? - that should make it easy coz I don't really want/need any on top of the basic VTI (apart from coloured paint)
next month I'll have the money to buy - so planning to go in and offer like $17,000 to start (RRP $23k atm) and bring em down to around 20k.
we havnt sold a VTi-L in ages, its so not worth the money when u can get the VTI LE
some good tips there...
maybe i should post some things we use and do to bang some of u into a deal lol
Has anyone got some recent best deal in sydney for Civic sport, manual, white, only need mats, if they can do even a 09' stock for below $30K, that will be great! but whether worth to pay some more to get a R instead ...
right, like misplacing keys, parking behind your car, finding common ground, maximal questions etc... lol
Hey Guys,
I posted above but then thought better of it. Just wanted to let you all know that the negotiation and customer service at Travis Honda in Frankston is awesome. As far as I can tell they are honest as well. Told them about a post on here where the poster asserted he worked for Honda and that at the 1000k service they often don't do much. Dealer said pretty much, they check ECU for codes etc.. but run-in oil is designed for 10k now.
No I don't work for them I just brought a new Civic FD1 LE a week ago.
So if you want a great deal and your down Bayside Melbourne way, pop in.
Willo
what price you pay, what extras did you get, and how easy were they to haggle with? ;)
Not really in a position to post the actual price, it was a fantastic negotiated deal and I think it would not be in integrity to post the price. I'm not bound to an NDA but I think it's up to each individual to negotiate their own price.
I'm pretty sure we only got tint as the LE edition comes with pretty much everything you'd want anyway. Haggling, well you would have to ask the dealer and my wife, she is quite gifted in that respect. I'd say the dealer did his utmost to negotiate a fair deal for both parties, but my wife likes to make sure she sticks to her budget while being fair.
lol that is nothing!Quote:
Originally Posted by didier
My sister paid 29K brand new 2010 VTI limited - with sunroof
Too much for that sunroof, and 29K, just add around 3000 or 4000 you even can get a Sport version (Auto) or cheaper for Manual, assume that our sister want an AutoQuote:
Originally Posted by raffyboy
Just hang around and get this price from carsales.com.au. It should be the best price ever (assumed that there is nothing wrong with the car like accident ...)
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...d=1298EE875D40
Any new updates on prices for a Civic VTI Limited Edition (or the standard model) in Auto in Perth?
I honestly didn't get around to buying one yet.
Seems as if the RRP has been the same since like june/july at 23000 vti/25000 vti LE
You would think sales would have been terrible last month given downturns in sharemarkets and housing markets (no free money), things like home sales have been super slow too so cars probably the same.
Point of that is you'd be able to bargain lower.
I'd still set my target at as low as 20k for vti (offer lower to start with) but you shouldn't have to pay more than $21k for VTI (white) at somewhere like Honda North (I'm told was cheapest). Comes down to hard bargaining with the sales manager.
oh, I've also noticed way more second hand civics under $20k on carsales.com for cars in WA. Supply is increasing vs. demand, esp when we might see new model in 1-2 years tops.
Any idea if where i could get the automatic one for 22.500 drive-away in brisbane?
i went to few honda dealer does not seem they were able to give me for that price.
Just came back from Honda Burswood (Perth) and got an offer for MY10 vti for $25800, with reverse sensor, floor matts, metallic colour and 5 years extended warranty. Don't think this is a good deal. Will try to check the other dealer the next few days. Any updates from you guys?
I'd say whatever retail is you should aim for 15% off (should be able to get 10-20%). I reckon retail base VTI/manual/white should be $20k or below soon, especially come end of year/new year sales.
Just have to study how to bargain hard with car dealers...
I'm also in Perth btw, and a Honmaz mechanic told me Honda North is cheapest.
Is 24k inclusive of rear sensor, tinted window, matts, metallic colour, and 5 years warranty considered a good deal for vti auto at this time (2 more weeks to 2011)?
retail auto = about $25k.
sensor = 400
window = 500
matts = 150
paint = 500
warranty = 300?
=27k approx.
take off 15% = 23k approx. so maybe 23000 is a good deal? maybe offer that. or lower to bring them toward you if you haven't already. 24k is ok, but certainly its pretty much end of year.
I actually spoke to one dealer and told them I wish to make a deal at 23k with all these extras. But the response from the agent made me feel so insulted. He was saying something like 'mate, look at the retail price before you make any ridiculous offer...' I doubt they know anything about the importance of customer service. :thumbdwn:
yep, many of the car salesmen I've seen are real idiots with sales. I think the vast majority don't last, so you'll know when your on to an experienced one.
just do the windows outside dealer, so much cheaper, and u can tint it darker
what sort of pricing should i expect for an auto Sports?
i went to a dealer today, they are having their 2010 plate sale. 5 yrs warranty and roadside assist. pretty good value i think.
out of all the cars i tried today, i liked the Sports the best.
i guess i knew what it is like already, since my dad has an 07 VTi, so the only diff between VTi and the Sport was the 2.0 engine, leather, sunroof, flappy paddle gearbox
bit late maybe, but as I said I reckon 10-20% off is what you can get depending on them and how good you are at haggling. So get your quote and offer at least 20% less for a starting point.
Seperately, I wanted to ask - what time of year do we typically see the next year's plated model come out - as in 2011 plated civic, even if its the exact same model?
BTW has everyone seen this yet - 2012 civic preview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvY6c...eature=related
I reckon the front looks great - like the current SI or Accord, but back looks pretty basic/like a lancer and not as good as current civic rear.
Plenty of other vids on youtube - search "2012 civic"
anyone know if its after end of february that 2011 plated models are sold?
I premuse this only coz all the sales at the moment say "2010 plated models sale ends feb 28".
...I'm finally in the financial situation to buy one (almost), although I just wonder if its worth waiting 6 months or so for the ninth generation.
They say it'll use 10% less fuel, although the new model might cost alot more than the current civic... heh
I called up one of the Honda dealers because I'm interested in purchasing a Honda Civic VTi auto. The salesman told me it was virtually impossible to get one at the moment, and that I would probably have to wait until March. He did ask if I wanted a VTi-L but I don't want that. So, according to this, it is likely that the 2011 plated models might be sold in March.
interesting. maybe depends wat state you're in but I'm in WA so cant imagine a place with less stock availability than here.
Be careful though, I find the car dealers - particularly honda, have a bit of an ego, and will try to make it sound harder for you to get what you want.
Last year they told me they had no stock in the state (I was asking if they had Red or Blue in stock), then I drove a few streets away to where they store their new cars (just ordered/purchased I presume). There were 3 shiny new civics (2 blue ones) being offloaded from a truck and even more inside with tonnes of other honda vehicles, lol.
Beware the BS, its 90% of what leaves their mouths!
The salesman at Essendon Honda VIC was telling me that the white Civic in front of me was the last one in the state! Somehow I could not believe that. Sounds like BS to me.
he is not giving u BS! he is right!Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwifroot
buy it if u want one ASAP.
lol yea... hahaha the degree of lies gets pretty predictable after spending a bit of time around a few dealers.
often they'll say - if you buy one will take 2-3 weeks to arrive, making you ready to pay more and/or get in faster on a deal (because you think they're scarce).
once you've signed and paid a small deposit, you'll find the car often shows up within 5 days, just coz they're ready to get the rest of their money ASAP (and deceive you into feeling you've been lucky and got your car early)
If you're serious about buying, go straight to the sales manager and talk alone in his office if you can. Offer 30% below RRP and bargain hard. Should be able to bring to a midpoint of about 15% off RRP I reckon.
here's some very very useful sites:
http://www.carbuyingtips.com/car5.htm
http://www.negotiationtraining.com.a...iate-car-deal/
http://www.motorpoint.com.au/good-deal-car.asp
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Originally Posted by didier
ok so how did u know these cars u saw were not already sold?
some interesting points, but some are just way off the mark, some of the cars dont even have that margin in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by didier
yea, the stored cars I presumed were ordered and sold. but it certainly contradicts the scarcity they often try to imply.
if you're a dealer, what can you tell us about margins (particularly this model)? ;)
do things like advertising, running costs of dealership etc get incorporated into the cost price you're thinking of, or just the per unit price of the civic?
I do want one ASAP, but it was in a colour I did not want, and I also want to have rear sensors installed. If you're a dealer, do you know when the 2011 plated ones are coming in? I can't wait for my first car!Quote:
Originally Posted by UNLS1
all the once i have delivered this year have mainly been 2011 plated. we are waiting for honda to release more.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwifroot
civics are cheap atm coz honda has a good bonus on them, not advertised to the public just dealers know.
The only prob is we are sold out! Knowing honda they will release more but take the bonus away so u cant sell em as cheap as u can atm!
it depends how quickly you need a car i suppose?Quote:
Originally Posted by didier
there is always something new coming out, i guess it all depends on you if you need a car now, or you have to have the 'latest and greatest' - went thru the same issue myself recently
just to let everyone know blue tooth will be standard on all cars MY11 models, MY12 for jazz and Euro.
so now the civics are sold out the next ones to arrive will have blue tooth!
bout time
Quote:
Originally Posted by UNLS1
Any idea when they will arrive?
very soon!
anyone reckon prices for new civics will rise on Japan's problems? apparently honda slowing production in US.
coz civic is made in Thailand, should be no problem for us?
I'm expecting this quarter to have been pretty bad too. In WA they reduced the VTI white price to $22,000 (manual) now.
and burswood offered me $4,000 of extras for $500 lol, without me even asking for or making an offer!
2011 MY10 models i see on carsales , are they the new MY11 you talking about? just quickly researching as mum wants a newer car. I dont want her to get a MY10 if a different MY11 is out very soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by UNLS1
.. quickly searched civic MY11 and it seems to be the civic type R shape?
civic my 11 looks the same just has blue tooth and less $$ bonus than the MY10 has.
hardly any my10s left we only have 1 my10 VTI L left.
tell her to get the MY11 VTi-L, for a short time they come with fog lights and reverse sensors and are the same RRP as the old Vti civic!
u are prob looking at the MY11 Civic SI hatch.
2011 MY10 Civic VTI Manual $19990 drive away, pick up in a week or 2 !
Cheap !Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevil
hmm yes, what colour? I saw an auto go for $19,500 coloured :)
you get any extras with yours?
Got a bit of a discount on Tint and additional 2 years warranty, theses prices are only for manual and only at one dealer in Sydney. Not really into the gear the L came with, specially for an extra 4-5K.