Lets Talk d-series

it'll happen one day, enough creative minds out there and people with time on their hands and initive :)

I look forward to the next d16 turbo build in oz :)

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Originally Posted by bennjamin

has anyone with a totally worked d series....na or turbo......run the 1/4 mile yet ? OR any times from wakefield / other tracks ?

need to compared to all other setups lol

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Let's not forget Jonny (A.C.S Drag) who ran 11.6 in his built D16A8 CRX which made 245kw ATW.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23nYHxrmpZQ

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Originally Posted by mugen_ctr

No one here has any high hopes of D-series, as pointed out, most ppl are sheeps, and are scared to try new things, which is why the states have much more hope in D-series, and have proven that D can make good power for what it is

I for one would boost my D, had i have the time and budget, but when the money an time comes around, definite yes to turbo D

Most ppl have the idea that B-series is the only way to go modding, but thats load of crap, D-series are good engine, just give it that extra boost, an it be as good as any B

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as i said lot of talk not enough doing in this thread
you can talk it can do this do that
but no real world results
so what if they can do it in the states
were talking about aussie cars

someone do a build thread with a d series single came turbo thread from start to finish
and post prices/power figures, and times etc

so then people can see the real cost and actually what can be achieved
not this bullshit of it can do that do this

jons car imo has a zc motor not a d series as thats its real engine name
twin cam is alot different to a single cam

the zc motor was the basis for the bseries
for people that didnt know

D series engines make 70-120hp yes? 120hp being the vtec models.

B series engines make 150-186hp.

B16 half-cut cost costs about $4K yes?

Lets say you take your D out chuck the B in there then sell off excess parts and make $1K

so a B16 conversion is about $3K if you DIY

Can you make similar power/reliability for the same cost of modding your D?

Maybe a turbo right?

You'll need (rough estimate of parts):

Turbo
manifold
wastegate
BOV
Intercooler piping
Oil feed line
Oil return line
While you're at it may aswell upgrade your exhaust too for all that extra power right?
You will also need oils for the turbo
Then you need to sort out all the electronics, guages, boost controller+solenoid, map sensor
Then you need to do all the wiring and get it tuned OMG so much work.


Would be cool if you can do all that for under $3K right?

I don't want to knock you guys and discourage you, the D series engine is nice for a daily
and stuff, but it was not designed as a high performance engine, and if you want
to make it a high performance engine you're going to need a lot of money.

We all know D isnt a performance engine.... But its good to know what can be done to make it a better engine

I for one would go for B18c swap, given that its cheaper than B16 swap, but considering that many have gone with that route, might be refreshing change to go boosting that shopping cart engine

4k for halfcut, factor in another 1-1.5k for labor, greddy kit is around 4k, so same price, but power difference 100kw@wheels, vs 130kw@wheels?
Reliability issues? what issues, only issues iev really come across are just tune related, other than that, its just like ur normal typical car, just service it normal, and treat it well, a good tuned car will run for miles before anything goes bang, applies for n/a and turbo

In the end its just a matter of preference

Id be lucky to get 1k if i sell off my D-series stuff...including motor

D to B comparisons are stupid. Lets move on.

Honestly i have read the argument time and time again with nothing really new to stimulate me. I still dont see Australia will ever see a Full blown Sohc D16... especially with the stigma that surrounds it.

And yes i agree with Lan. John's Dohc Zc is closer to being a B16a then D16y

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Originally Posted by 90LAN

jons car imo has a zc motor not a d series as thats its real engine name
twin cam is alot different to a single cam

the zc motor was the basis for the bseries
for people that didnt know

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Your opinion is wrong. It's a D16A8, and therefore it's a D-series. ZC is a very similar engine anyway, virtually the same but for minor differences.

Furthermore I am responding to Ben who asked if anybody has built a D-series, NA or turbo, and run a 1/4 mile time with it. I'm not talking about SOHC D-series engines. I just showed him an example of a worked D-series as he requested.

and the circle continues...

there is almost nothing productive coming of this thread as half the D-series people wont spend the $$ and time to make a monster D and the B-Series and UP engine owners just come in here and harass more than they give useful D-series info

2cents

I'll be taking my D15B4 Twin Carb out to eastern creek for a 1/4 mile when I do abit more work on it for shits and giggles to see what the D-twin carb gets :D

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Originally Posted by tiksie

I'll be taking my D15B4 Twin Carb out to eastern creek for a 1/4 mile when I do abit more work on it for shits and giggles to see what the D-twin carb gets :D

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hahah in for updates tiks!