NEW 2009 Euro Luxury Auto Pinging

Sorry Leo, I am about 1400km north of Sydney. Add to that I am very fussy & fastidious with my cars - no one drives it except me & on the rare occasion when it can't be avoided the wife drives it.

In the majority of cases you will find the pinging problem between 2000 & 2500RPM under light throttle, thats my experience & I have driven a number of CU2's. As for those who report pinging at higher RPM, this is very hard to repeat on a road test as there are very few roads around that allow testing at those speeds legally.

File Complaint with ACCC under the Trade Practices ACT 1974 for Pinging problem when accelerating uphill - Accord Euro MY09.

The characteristics of this Pinging/PCS problem has been described in the preceding pages.

If your car has had the ping fix applied and you are still experiencing this problem, there is no point taking your car back to the dealership as they can't help you any further. Many of us have done this and our cars still ping. If you complain to Honda Australia, they will simply tell you that your car is operating within specification.

This matter now needs to be referred to the ACCC for investigation/prosecution under the Trade Practices Act 1974.

It should not cost us a cent and our aim is to get our cars fixed by Honda Australia under Warranty.
Below is the ACCC link to lodge your complaint and be part of any settlement. We need you to get on board if you want to be part of this action.

ITS NOW OR NEVER!!!
Many cars will soon be running out of warranty and you need to act quickly to report this problem.

http://www.accc.gov.au/content/maint...l=.&type=Other

Several complaints have already been lodged. So join us guys, click on the above link and it will only take about 5 to 10 minutes to complete the online form.

I think its a good idea to lodge a complaint with ACCC.

But makesure if you guys car affected been to dealer for few fixes and dealer gave up and Honda Australia gave up as well..

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Originally Posted by Irving

File Complaint with ACCC under the Trade Practices ACT 1974 for Pinging problem when accelerating uphill - Accord Euro MY09.

The characteristics of this Pinging/PCS problem has been described in the preceding pages.

If your car has had the ping fix applied and you are still experiencing this problem, there is no point taking your car back to the dealership as they can't help you any further. Many of us have done this and our cars still ping. If you complain to Honda Australia, they will simply tell you that your car is operating within specification.

This matter now needs to be referred to the ACCC for investigation/prosecution under the Trade Practices Act 1974.

It should not cost us a cent and our aim is to get our cars fixed by Honda Australia under Warranty.
Below is the ACCC link to lodge your complaint and be part of any settlement. We need you to get on board if you want to be part of this action.

ITS NOW OR NEVER!!!
Many cars will soon be running out of warranty and you need to act quickly to report this problem.

http://www.accc.gov.au/content/maint...l=.&type=Other

Several complaints have already been lodged. So join us guys, click on the above link and it will only take about 5 to 10 minutes to complete the online form.

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support !!! the issue has been more than 2 yrs! obviously honda doesn't really care as long as the euro still selling. nothing will get done if no one do something about it.

I am just curious has anyone in this forum complain to ACCC after the fix by the dealer failed few times and ping still?

Mine is new 2010 jan built one, clock up around 300k at the moment, no pinging at all, who knows may be after few 1000kms mine get ping as well.. What i noticed today is i filled my tank with BP ultimate which is ron 98 and i noticed the acceleration is quicker and perform slightly better than the dealer filled caltex ron 95 ulp...

Does this mean the suitable fuel for our EUro is RON98 not 95?

The specified fuel is 95RON, yet my car needs 98RON and it still Pings/PCS. This car is not operating within specification.

The specification as per http://euro.honda.com.au/about-the-c...spx#powertrain states that 148KW are produced at 7000rpm using Unleaded 95RON. If you then increase the Octane rating, theoretically, more power should be produced (put more energy in, get more out).

However, if the car pings on 95RON fuel, maximum power cannot be produced. In order to try and minimise the pinging we are using 98RON fuel and the engine is still pinging. What this means is that the engine is operating well below specification.

This is clearly misleading and false advertising.
I also believe this to be illegal conduct and unfair to consumers under the Trade Practices Act 1974. The matter has therefore been referred to the ACCC for investigation.

Mine runs fine on 95 octane, its not false advertising.

Not sure its only a particular batch of models were affected? Just curious, does this ping issue mostly on luxuary model as the kerb weight is 50kg more...

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Originally Posted by Type R Positive

Mine runs fine on 95 octane, its not false advertising.

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Mine runs perfectly as well on 95 octane, so I agree it's not false advertising. I did try 2 consecutive tanks of 98 & found no noticeable difference in performance or economy, so for me it is 95 every tank.

Maybe you guys ought to buy yourselves Lottery Tickets.....LOL:zip:

Don't need a lottery ticket when you have a car as good as a CU2

I would say this Euro Cu2 is average people's BMW or mercedes where average people can't afford 60k plus for a BMW 3 series or Merc C class.

SO far i am happy with my Euro and i drive carefully, don't do sudden accelerations, just gentle smooth acceleration. TIme will tell whether my car is also a ping one or not...