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Originally Posted by dundas
i wouldnt be so sure of either an auto or manual xrt getting to 100kph from a standing start faster than a h22a accord. :p My mate's and me didnt believe what we were seeing either!
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Originally Posted by dundas
i wouldnt be so sure of either an auto or manual xrt getting to 100kph from a standing start faster than a h22a accord. :p My mate's and me didnt believe what we were seeing either!
wrx have a lot more tourque becuase of there turbo, and i know from my h22 that they are a bit slugish down low. wrx are beatable with a stock h22 but need a roling start as everyone else has said. you can gain a bit of power down low by putting decent extractors on but it desent help that much.
LOL damn u Mr Det8R, ruin my dreaming process hehehe. mmz has my cover been blown?Quote:
Originally Posted by h22a accord
Latest wheels or motors can't remember....XR6 is faster than the wrx and XR5 in that comparsion.....:)
Autospeed has a good article on the 02 STI. This backs up what a lot of us are saying. Remember this is the king 195kw STI - not the base model.
http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_...popularArticle
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It's pretty sad that the STi gets gobbled up by ninety percent of traffic in normal day-to-day driving. No joke - caught out at anything less the mid-range rpm, the Super Rex is an absolute s-l-u-g.
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Somehow, despite weighing 1470 kilograms (a considerable 200 kay-gees more than the previous STi sedan) Subaru Australia say their new hero can manage 0 - 100 km/h in 5.45 seconds; we can't help wonder where the 50-horse nitrous shot was hidden! Independent testing reveals more realistic low 6-second 0 - 100s. But critically, without a huge clutch-dumping launch, you're well up into the 7s.
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Despite its wide-open throttle, the STi proved unable to muscle its way past a humble Mitsubishi Colt in the adjoining lane....
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Embarrassing - not to mention dangerous - situations like this quickly teach you the MY02 STi is a no-goer at anything below mid rpm. It's tractable - yes - but don't expect any useable acceleration.
The Bug Eye Sti may be porky bit it still has all the STi bits, nothing a turbo upgrade and aftermarket ECU, and Exhaust. Not as fast as it should be BUT still can be a real weapon
oh the BA XR6T can be a weapon. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by h22a accord
a bit of tuning, and a bit of boost will put the car into the sub 13s category.
They still went sub 14s in some quarter mile tests with the correvit. But yeah 2001 and 2002 were the years of the sh&t rex's. Very laggy dog of a motor still went hard on there way to 8k revs. Take a 2003 though and you have a well sorted car, wouldnt mind driving an 06.
MY01 and MY02 STIs are slugs below 4000rpm. Well it doesn't actually reflect the performance of the normal rexes - due to both ECU tuning and Turbo differences between the STI and WRXs. STI has much more top end but lack bottom end torque. Although the MY01-MY02 WRXs are slugs below 3000rpm, ECU, gearing, no AVCS, all wrong!
MY03s onwards they're really quick off the line or rolling start... especially WRXs. STI still has peaky tune though not as exaggerated as the MY01-MY02s bug eyes..
MY99-MY00 were the quickest in stock form out of the factory, the MY03 have taken that lead now. MY06 has just lots more useable torque compared to the other motors cause of the 2.5.
MY01-02 are average but nothing a bit of mods and a VF34 turbo can't fix :)
Okay guys,seems like a very interesting discussion here. First of all, if you think a H22A with CAI,exhaust can beat a stock 2000 rex,that's impossible.It is possible if that driver didin't try at all.......I use to got a EK1 civic VTi with header,cat back and CAi,and my mate is driving it and i driving my rex(yes i got 2 cars),the rex i got have 190kw atw......in first gear,my civic which is driving by my mate can catch up with me(because i spin the wheel of the rex too much)......after i change to 2nd,the rex just gone and no way for my VTi to catch up........after that,i sold both car and got a stock STI 2 door,the STI not as quick as my modded Rex,but still can beat any car easily....and i did try to drag with a H22a ACCORD WITH Turbo kit,etc on my previous rex(when it was totally stock),i can still win it easily.........After all,i just get a DC2R a week ago........the DC2R i got is stock atm,and i can say it no way can catch up with the rex.....because i had own all this car,so i can say that......if you think i am bullshxt or dreaming i had own this 4 cars before,ask me for pics or etc to prove anyway.......few members in here had saw me in the cruise and know what cars i got......
Conclusion is, they are different Class of car......don't compare them....Honda are fun to drive,nice handling,etc,but just don't think honda can beat the rex in anyway.....think about this way, a 160kw FWD with handle as good as a 160Kw 4WD rex???it's doesn't make sense.....if you like to put $5k or $10k to modify a H22A accord to beat a stock rex and you feel happy.....do it.....but no way u can handle like the rex in corner for a FF with that much power.....and how about the rex owner put $5k to modify their rex? $5k is enought for a stock rex to have 180+kw at all 4 wheels........Yes the gearbox in a rex is weak.....but they don't even have to rev 7000rpm to beat u.....maybe in 1st but not in 2nd gear.....
You are confusing some things.
The AWD Rex DOESN'T handle well. It is a permanently understeerer. In fact its cornering speed isn't very fast at all, due to the lack of balance in chassis and lack of LSD. (STI is another story).
AWD's advantage is traction out of corners, NOT handling and NOT mid-corner speed. Even in the wet its cornering speed isn't necessarily better, its just that after the apex the drive can accelerate 'easier'.
Its other advantage is 1st gear and AWD launch.
2ndly your REX is modded.... and your 2nd rex is the STI. We're talking about the stock REX here dude.... don't take things out of context....
The boxer engine in the REX is weak as, if I want an AWD I'll buy an EVO over it anyday, due to the inherent lack of torque in the boxer engine down low.... mainly because of lack of gravity on the down stroke.
I had an S15 with nearly 200rwkw before..... obviously no Honda can catch up with it.
But when it was stock, it already had better Top End than any REX bar an STI.... and yet, I KNOW some honda's can match its rolling speed.