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Double vanos is VTC, but unlike VTC which is only on the intake side, Double VANOS is on both intake and exhaust (hence Double). This is similar to the Toyota Altezza with the 3S-GE 2L 4-cyl 206hp engine, which has VVT on both intake and exhaust (no "i" though). With BMW, they don't need a 2nd cam profile, because their Double VANOS engines are large capacity in the first place, and they are polished, lightened and balanced from the factory. So just VANOS is enough to provide low RPM torque.
What is the point of comparing the outputs of a JDM 4G92 MIVEC with an AUDM B16A2? Lower the comperession of the 4G92 MIVEC to run on Australian 96 octane premium like the B16A2 and then do the comparison.Quote:
Originally Posted by spetz
ive driven a tiptronic fto 2.0 v6 mivec and believe me it was respectable but not impressive. Granted i would have gotten more punch out of a manual version but vtec integra's seem much more ANGRY!!!
and for those that still doubt vtec's performance, look at an fto vs integra type R and you will see that TypeR is faster and utilyzes less cc and two pistons less also!!!!
-go the honda's-
DC2R versus GPX/GPvR is not a very fair comparison considering the fto is over 100kg heavier!Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKillerAnt
hey thats true also but still
you gota look at it another way the FTO has 200cc advantage as well as two extra pistons....
youd think that it would be a lil bit more fair....?(wouldnt it?)
but i had an FTO and now i own a DC5R
dont rule out the FTO or the mivec i realy havto admit i think they are very evenly matched jus a lil less weight for the FTO and you would have and VTEC ass kicking machine!...
but i leane towards the HONDA VTEC built engines rather than the mitsubishi even though my FTO was a 1999 model (very rare) i still had problems with it...for some reason everytime i floord the gas pedal seriouse smoke came out of it and not the good kind.......
and everytime i tried fixing it nothing would work so i gave up
it jus somethign about the V6 packages that mitsubishi offers that raises allot of questions......HONDA doesnt get as many complaints............
but the V6 mivec engine of the FTO is very compettative when kept in 100% tip top shape.........it competed i think i few years ago in the JGTC in the GT300 class and was actually very competative and could even keep up with the GT500 cars but im not sure if dey still compete nows.....
anyone know?
ya ya ya...what so ever...take your FTO and race with an ITR...then we'll talk...what ever 200cc advantages or 200kg advantages..no point argue over it...if any FTO can show the freaking Drag time Slip doing a 14.00sec or lower, Show it!...but for a ITR to Do a 14.00sec...i've seen it...but does anybody come through a FTO doing that?...hmmm...
anyway...i have nothing against Mivew or what so ever...but just that Talk is nothing...FTO driver out there, race with a ITR...and then tell us the result...we would love to hear from it...
Although i myself drving a Vtec, but still, i've been won by a 1.8Mivec before...believe it or not, is up to you...i guess Mivec isn't slow afterall...but thats when my car was standard...hehehe...
anyway..keep it in our league...we won't wanna compare some GT cars over our road cars...just street style dude...hehehe...
lastly, Vtec still Roars...haha...
bro chillax im jus referin to the reliability of that engine geez tok bout hot air y dun u chill for a bitQuote:
Originally Posted by pgclee
and man dun judge a car unless youv driven it. you bad mouthin a car dat u dun evn know bout, get it rite chillax a lil and stop shooting your mouth like u a nissan driver aight........
Lets keep this to constructive criticism guys.....or else this thread is going to have to get locked.
This is a warning!
Opps...yea.."i've only driven my crappy Civic my whole life"...damn...sad for me...isn't it...HAHahahaha....
well from my personal experience, ive got a H22 in my accord with no mods watsoeva... meaning no CAI, no zorst and i bet a mivec FTO. so hhmmmmmm so wouldnt that mean VTEC is better?
no offence or anything, but thats like saying i'll buy a FTO and put a EVO motor in it with no mods and drag you. engine conversions are in a different league altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by nickiipoohz
i dont think they have 1.8l mivecs. unless you dragged a hybrid?Quote:
Originally Posted by pgclee
i think this has got out of hand now..haha I dont think the FTO was made to beat the ITR at all..so i dont see the point in bagging the FTO against Integras best. It cant be as bad as some of you guys put it, if it could win the 1994 Japan car of the year.
of course VTEC man. No more copy cat.