Does you euro have drift to one side tendency?

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If it was as simple as alignment wouldn't it pull ALL the time, camber or straight road? Like i said in one of my previous post's only when road cambers not on straight road tracks perfectly straight on straight road.

I seem to be able to turn right without turning my steering wheel when road cambers (turning right only, not left). This does not happen when I'm turning left, only right. I am always fighting my steering to the left, not my right, when road CAMBERS. [QUOTE]

As also mentioned earlier - mine started veering to the right @ approx. 500Klm's, had a wheel rotation @ 1000Klm's which minimized the veer. Now again @ approx. 2000Klm's it's started up again.

Hard to steer to the left, easy to the right and it veer's to the right.
I know if I go back for a service I'll get the run around .... so with SIX of us now and maybe more, we might be getting close to really being able to isolate the problem??? But, I'm still no wiser on this issue.

Yes ... it's frustrating and disappointing

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If it was as simple as alignment wouldn't it pull ALL the time, camber or straight road? Like i said in one of my previous post's only when road cambers not on straight road tracks perfectly straight on straight road.

I seem to be able to turn right without turning my steering wheel when road cambers (turning right only, not left). This does not happen when I'm turning left, only right. I am always fighting my steering to the left, not my right, when road CAMBERS.

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As also mentioned earlier - mine started veering to the right @ approx. 500Klm's, had a wheel rotation @ 1000Klm's which minimized the veer. Now again @ approx. 2000Klm's it's started up again.

Hard to steer to the left, easy to the right and it veer's to the right.
I know if I go back for a service I'll get the run around .... so with SIX of us now and maybe more, we might be getting close to really being able to isolate the problem??? But, I'm still no wiser on this issue.

Yes ... it's frustrating and disappointing

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I think it's a combination of low profile tyres,tyre brand and possibly tyre pressure! and a good wheel alignment.My past exp with new cars(i've bought 6)is that the alignment(also steering wheel is not centred) is never right from the factory.I always get one done in the 1st week.that's all i can suggest:confused:

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Originally Posted by LXRY

If I knew what was was wrong I would be helping everyone on this thread.
I'm not the only one in this thread with this problem.

If it was as simple as alignment wouldn't it pull ALL the time, camber or straight road? Like i said in one of my previous post's only when road cambers not on straight road tracks perfectly straight on straight road.

I seem to be able to turn right without turning my steering wheel when road cambers (turning right only, not left). This does not happen when I'm turning left, only right. I am always fighting my steering to the left, not my right, when road CAMBERS. I am no expert on alignment or camber, but I know it's not alignment (IMO). Dont you think if it was alignment problem that honda dealership would of done it? After all I'm paying for it. I've been twice and asked them to do an alignment they keep telling me my car doesn't need it(nothing wrong with it according to them).
I'm pretty sure that I've read other ppl have done alignments on their euro's with no success.
;)

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What I was getting at is there is nothing wrong with your car. If on a straight road the car goes straight - there is nothing wrong. The problem people are describing here is a PULL or DRIFT to either side on a perfectly flat road. It is normal for the Euro to follow the camber in the road - that is why you need to hold the steering wheel.

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Originally Posted by yfin

What I was getting at is there is nothing wrong with your car. If on a straight road the car goes straight - there is nothing wrong. The problem people are describing here is a PULL or DRIFT to either side on a perfectly flat road. It is normal for the Euro to follow the camber in the road - that is why you need to hold the steering wheel.

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You sound like the mechanics at my dealerships...my tyres are worn only after 13000klm's, I hate my car now, will never buy a Honda again if it doesn't get fixed....You have to drive my car to understand what I mean and now i know I'm not the only one with this problem. You have to understand that my car was really bad before they done something to it at the dealership which sort of fixed it, sort of still doing it...Just for you I will go for a wheel alignment tomm. for the sake of saying I have done it. Frustrated and upset....

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Originally Posted by LXRY

You sound like the mechanics at my dealerships...my tyres are worn only after 13000klm's, I hate my car now, will never buy a Honda again if it doesn't get fixed....You have to drive my car to understand what I mean and now i know I'm not the only one with this problem. You have to understand that my car was really bad before they done something to it at the dealership which sort of fixed it, sort of still doing it...Just for you I will go for a wheel alignment tomm. for the sake of saying I have done it. Frustrated and upset....

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Any Luck?

My dealer service mgr said today that "Honda have now set a standard of acceptable drift. The car must move the distance of one full lane in less than 6 seconds to be seen as defective."

Mine does this, but if you get this lame excuse I suggest you engage the Department of fair trading. I intend to if the vehicle does not have the problem rectified.

I purchased this $40k+ vehicle with an expectation of quality. The truth is, I can buy a Korean rice burner for a fraction of the cost that steers perfectly straight! :thumbdwn:

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Originally Posted by Woogler

My dealer service mgr said today that "Honda have now set a standard of acceptable drift. The car must move the distance of one full lane in less than 6 seconds to be seen as defective."

Mine does this, but if you get this lame excuse I suggest you engage the Department of fair trading. I intend to if the vehicle does not have the problem rectified.

I purchased this $40k+ vehicle with an expectation of quality. The truth is, I can buy a Korean rice burner for a fraction of the cost that steers perfectly straight! :thumbdwn:

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I wonder if the figure of six seconds (at what speed?) was arrived at because six of us have the problem, in time with a few more complaints it might be increased to 8 seconds. I'm not sure I'd want to allow mine to drift for that long as the oncoming traffic would look somewhat daunting.
Did they say what can be done in any case?
Thanks

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Originally Posted by Woogler

My dealer service mgr said today that "Honda have now set a standard of acceptable drift. The car must move the distance of one full lane in less than 6 seconds to be seen as defective."

Mine does this, but if you get this lame excuse I suggest you engage the Department of fair trading. I intend to if the vehicle does not have the problem rectified.

I purchased this $40k+ vehicle with an expectation of quality. The truth is, I can buy a Korean rice burner for a fraction of the cost that steers perfectly straight! :thumbdwn:

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I agree Woogler still waiting for my car alignment, although I think I've wasted my money...I have filled out a safety report before (consumer affairs) but they can't chase it up until several reports have been made, I think we should set a day and call customer relations first, then if that doesn't work, safety report will work i guarentee this. I'll set the date if you all dont mind let's say Monday 18th sept, next week to call customer relations (Honda). Will post later when I get my car back from alignment...I am about to call my dealership again to try to rectify this problem...This is also a safety issue IMO

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Originally Posted by LXRY

You sound like the mechanics at my dealerships...my tyres are worn only after 13000klm's, I hate my car now, will never buy a Honda again if it doesn't get fixed....You have to drive my car to understand what I mean and now i know I'm not the only one with this problem. You have to understand that my car was really bad before they done something to it at the dealership which sort of fixed it, sort of still doing it...Just for you I will go for a wheel alignment tomm. for the sake of saying I have done it. Frustrated and upset....

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LXRY - perhaps you can describe your problem in more detail. If your car steers straight on a flat road it is a different issue to what other people are experiencing in this thread. Are you saying your car drifts off the road on a slanted road? If it does - that does not sound abnormal. If I was you and still concerned I would ask the dealership to loan you another Euro at the dealership and take it for a long drive. See if it is any different.

If you do get a wheel alignment get a laser alignment and a print out of the cars specifications.

Woogler - re that 6 second lane change business - I got the same story from my dealership when I raised it in early 2004. I wonder why you guys are all reporting a drift to the right - mine was a drift to the left. Weird.

All those with the problem have to differentiate between tramlining and drifting (not the sport).
Tramlining is when the car pulls to the side when going over grooves, road camber or even little potholes on the road. When accelerating, this is enhanced even more. When the road is perfect and straight, your car tracks straight while only needing your hand to be resting on the wheel. If this is what you experience, then it is a normal trait of the Euros.

Drifting on the other hand is the car pulling itself to the left or right when you are on a perfectly flat road with no surface defects and just resting your hand on the wheel is not enough to prevent the slight direction change.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

All those with the problem have to differentiate between tramlining and drifting (not the sport).
Tramlining is when the car pulls to the side when going over grooves, road camber or even little potholes on the road. When accelerating, this is enhanced even more. When the road is perfect and straight, your car tracks straight while only needing your hand to be resting on the wheel. If this is what you experience, then it is a normal trait of the Euros.

Drifting on the other hand is the car pulling itself to the left or right when you are on a perfectly flat road with no surface defects and just resting your hand on the wheel is not enough to prevent the slight direction change.

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Well said - LXRY tyres have the biggest impact on tramlining. If your tyres are heavily worn or worn unevenly that could make tramlining much worse.

Read these two articles, covers everything I think

http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/ar...ml?&A=0879&P=1

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tirete....jsp?techid=47

Are the bridgestones on the Lux model asymmetrical? Most companies don't make a left and right tyre for asymmetrical models. So when you look at these brands of tyres (like pirelli dragons), the thread is not mirrored for the left and right side tyres.