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They will have a tuneable ECU one day from what is said?
Sigh - at the moment its just too much talks. By the time I'm ready for the upgrade, I think I might as well sell my 05 and get an 07 or when the new Euro comes out. sigh..
Always want to catch up with the latest models :(
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Originally Posted by Type R Positive
Why would you have fart cannons they produce to much noise. This exhaust has been designed to produce power without noise taking into account the type of car it is. The design has been taken into account that the car is an upmarket exec type car not a boy racer car. Also the question of single outlet.... Why ....the car is from factory a twin outlet car not single. This exhaust took this into consideration. Also power is not lost with this system but gained... The welds on this exhaust are very good quality but is only the first prototype.
I agree.The main reason i'm going for the JTUNE gear is exactly what Peekay34 states.Cannons,noisy exhausts and intakes etc.do NOT suit the style of car that the Euro is.Not to mention that the idea of a "sleeper"style of car appeals to me as well!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Peekay34
of course there is a reason for the design, and i think the whole package will suit the character of the euro well like you said. honda implimented a dual outlet exhaust from factory becuase it's quiet and looks good depending on your taste (most people appreciate symmetry and having 'more')Quote:
Originally Posted by Peekay34
So why a single outlet exhaust? It's a less compromised design... function over form, lighter in weight (j's racing = 6kg for the cat back system) and in theory will always have the potential to flow more exhaust gasses on a 4 cylinder car (assuming there is a collector that meets at a single point). Like you said the hondatech system is designed to retain the 'exec.' character of the euro - no denying it is a well rounded / more conservative upgrade, but optimal performance? that's questionable.
No offense intended here, just offering my view point: the hondatech way isn't the only way to tune a euro and if a single outlet exhaust is for 'boy racers' so is a 3ft wing, wouldnt you say?
the hks silent hipower is one of the quietest exhausts on the market for the euro and has adopted a cannon style dual exit muffler as has the mugen exhaust system. So don't generalise.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
the euro could be considered an entry level luxury car but it's in no way a status symbol like a mercede's or bmw...
CHris F... great stuff :D i totally agree with you
Peekay34 - I like the look of the cannon mufflers, I think the hondatech ones look shite. I also prefer the two muffler design over single. But hey, that's my thoughts... The Greddy twin design is quiet, the HKS design is also quiet, so what makes you say that the cannon mufflers are loud?
The only thing that appeals to me about hondatech is the reflash and depending on how expensive, the headers too. that's it. Unless they are using metalcat's catalytic converter, then forget about it too.
Saying that, it is awesome that we are getting some more parts for the euro. They are just not for everyone.
What's the intake going to be like? Comptech airbox design or CAI?
i guess comptech, mayb if i remember correctly, they first tested the ecu on a euro with comptech intake.
But I hear all this talk about CAI? As they said, they tested everything.
a design similar to comptech could be considred a CAI.. anything that draws in cool air (not from the bay) is essentially a CAI..
Ok internet kiddies, a response has been posted up re why that exhaust was chosen.
http://www.hondatech.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=863
I think we should let the dyno graphs and real world driving experiences do the talking here. A couple of photos (which to me look real nice) mean little don't they?
ps.. The internet kiddies remark is just tounge and cheek - if you read the link you will see why I am saying it. lol :D.
hahaha I just read it
3" sounds good to me, I'm sure it'll be a great package with all the effort that's been put into it.
One point though.. if hondata didn't want to be rushed by 'internet kiddies' then they shouldn't have generated hype about the product when it was nowhere near release, I'm sure people find it hard to stay patient for so long