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I'm guessing the only reason why they went out on the formation lap was so they didn't get into any legal trouble at all.
Remember they hire guys just to know the rules, so over the weekend and 7 teams would have had a plan and checked every consecquence!
This is going to go on forever I reckon, Michelin blame FIA, FIA blame Michelin, bogans blame Ferrari its a never ending circle.
They coulda just said they werent racing. 45 minutes before the rules state you need to tell the stewards. They have now all been summoned for not obeying that :S
At the moment, everyone's trying to pin the blame on everyone else. If someone ends up in breach of the rules then they are liable and will be taken to court by half the fans.
6 cars isn't a race is it? I thought there was a rule which said if there are less than a certain number of cars then there's no race and Bernie has to cough up the money to reimburse everyone. If they can deflect the blame to the Michelin teams and prove that they broke the rules, then they can get the reimbursement money off the teams.
That's why this circus of blame games is continuing. Any GP other than US and they could move on. But being in the US, this saga is going to go on for months.
Bernie's in a tough spot, 'cos if he says that it WAS a race, 'cos all 20 cars fronted up to the dummy grid then he will not be legally liable... but on the other hand, that will mean the 7 Michelin teams did start the race, so they have fulfilled their obligations.
I see on F1-Live.com thatpaul stoddart has given his "unbiased" view on what happened at indy. Haha, he's the person least able to give an unbiased opinion, and after what he tried to do to the sport in australia, he's got no credibility at all!
lol :D and funny thing is he runs bridgestones with his cars... I really dont get it....Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondavirgin
Stoddart will say anything. He's a tool. But his cause in this case might be right... getting rid of Mosley could be good for motorsport... as long as there's a good replacement.
Hehe, this topic is almost as long as the F1 discussion thread. **chuckles**
Hey, when the GPWC comes in (as it hopefully does), then the sports still going to have to run under mosley yeah as the head of the FIA?
I hope the GPWC doesn't come in.
It will turn F1 into Indy vs Champ cars, and now both are boring.
They need Max to go, and put a driver in his position, like Niki Lauder or Jackie Stewart.
Bernie, can be sacked from my knowledge, the banks that own over 70% of F1 can have a decision (like a jury) to boot him out (i think)
no way, GPWC will have support of every manufacturer besides GM, Ford and Fiat, and Fiat's the only one who wants to be in F1, they would be forced to race with GPWC or not race at all.
Nyeh, i don't mind what series runs, as long as its as good as the racing has been this year and there's no Bernie.
I think your right too, the banks can boot him out if they REALLY want to, but why? he makes them so much money.
how many teams have signed to the concord agreement, didnt ferrari sign till 2010?
There are so many uneducated opinions in here. It's obvious who's at fault here.
As I said in my previous post, it is 100% Michelins fault for bringing the wrong tyre to the event, but it is absoloutely, 100%, the FIA's fault that there were only 6 cars in the race. It's as simple as that.
I am not debating that Michelin was in the wrong, but stating that the situation that resulted where only 6 cars were out on the track during the race could easily have been avoided if the FIA, and Max Mosely in particular, had not been so arrogant and close minded. If this race ends Formula 1's association with the United States, the world as a whole has only one man to blame... Max Mosely.
The Indianapolis track was diamond-grinded before the INDY 500, and Bridgestone had the advantage... they ran under their Firestone branind for the INDY 500 and knew exactly how abrasive the surface was before even arriving at INDY.
Michelin came to the track with no knowledge at all. They would have visited the track, found out some information about the surface, but apart from that, no knowledge.
I respect Peter Winsors comments, and have been reading all his articles in the F1 Racing magazine since mid-1997 (I was 12 years old), and I still have every issue since then on my bookshelf. I believe him that they are unsafe when only used in one particular way, but that is completely obvious, and was pointed out by Michelin on day one. The only way they can get around that corner without causing a failure is to take it outside normal racing conditions.
You have to have been following Formula 1 very closely, especially over the last few years, to see that this is typical of the FIA. This is the way wars start, the complete lack of compromise from either side. It's the way all the World Wars started, and in fact, every war in the history of the human race. Michelin had no abiliy to compromise... they couldn't slow down to a safe speed around turn 13, because, what was a safe speed? They couldn't change their tyres, because thats against the rules and they may be found cheating and banned like BAR.
The FIA had all the cards that would have enabled the United States to see a full car grid, but they chose not to play them? why? only Max Mosely knows. All they had to do was build a chicane, put all the Michelin teams to the back of the grid, all the Bridgestone teams to the front, make it so that Michelin teams couldn't score a point, and start the race from behind the safety car for the first say, 5 laps to let the drivers get used to the chicane.
The drivers aren't babys, they don't need us to hold their hands, they are professionals. Also, this situation is not without precedent, after Ayrton Senna's death in 1994, they put a temporary chicane on the main straight at the Spanish Grand Prix, and also at the bottom of Eau Rouge in Belgium before they realised the cause of his death. What was different about this situation?
Don't forget, 9 of the 10 teams, Bernie Ecclestone, Tony George all agreed on Sunday Morning to put the chicane in... they only had one person to call and there would have been a full car grid... Max Mosely, and what did he say? NO. Blame noone else apart from Max.
I have alot more that I can add to this topic, and will be glad to if anyone is interested, but if you are still not convinced, try downloading/listening to Paul Stoddarts Dutch TV interview (http://rapidshare.de/files/2491345/S...rview.mp3.html)... that will convince you for sure, unless you are just as close minded as Max Mosely.