EP3 Type R

more details, dont care if ep3 thread

lmzo I have a 4agze and sprinter box sitting in my shed, anyone want it haha

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Originally Posted by u mad?

more details, dont care if ep3 thread

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send pm hear too.

Actually just post list in spam

thank

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Originally Posted by DreadAngel

Once you start cracking open the engine... It starts getting expensive...

Wait till you go nuts and your engine cost as much as a EP3R then you're getting closer to where I was lolz :P

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Originally Posted by stndrd

Or you could just boost it and make double the power for same $$$

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HAHA For a low budget student, how is supercharging it in comparison to the turbo path?

Cost, reliability ect?

Turbo or Supercharge will be around same cost...

Turbo more power though...

Reliability depending how far you want to go...

Is supercharging better in any way?

It sounds like you need to research into both Supercharger and Turbocharger to learn the basic characteristics and requirements.

Supercharger Basic:

• Superchargers offer linear and immediately usable boost [Roots + Screw].
• Superchargers are driven off your engine's crankshaft. This means that they will decrease your engine's ability to output power because of parasitic loss. Unlike a turbo which runs off your engine's exhaust gas.
• Superchargers tend to be heavier [Roots + Screw] and output less to a comparative Turbo [All].
• Superchargers also tend to emit a whining noise [Usually depends on type] which to some is pleasant and to others a pain in the ear.

Superchargers have 3 types:

• Roots-Type - Typically least efficient of the 3, Roots-Type Superchargers force air into the engine in more burst than a continuous flow due to its design. It does however offer instant boost ie does not have the 'lag' associated with Centrifugal Superchargers or Turbos.
• Screw-Type [Rotary-Type] - The Screw-Type can be considered an evolution of the Roots-Type by design as the internals are designed to pump air more efficiently and consistently HOWEVER cost more and create a lot more noise comparably. It also does offer instant boost.
• Centrifugal-Type - Centrifugal-Type is constructed a little more its behaviour is more like a Turbo in design and therefore in characteristic too ie doesn't provide usable amount of boost immediately.

Check out Google, Jackson Racing, Eaton, Vortech, CAPA, etc for more info on Superchargers.

Check out Google, Garrett [Honeywell] for more info on Turbochargers :)

Also the torque characteristics are different between the root/screw type vs centrifugal vs turbo. This is something else you need to take into consideration when deciding what you want.

Also in regards to turbos, make sure to research twin scroll and variable vane turbo set ups. This is where turbos become very flexible and can have very quick spool times with gigantic horsepower figures

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Originally Posted by DreadAngel

It sounds like you need to research into both Supercharger and Turbocharger to learn the basic characteristics and requirements.

Supercharger Basic:

• Superchargers offer linear and immediately usable boost [Roots + Screw].
• Superchargers are driven off your engine's crankshaft. This means that they will decrease your engine's ability to output power because of parasitic loss. Unlike a turbo which runs off your engine's exhaust gas.
• Superchargers tend to be heavier [Roots + Screw] and output less to a comparative Turbo [All].
• Superchargers also tend to emit a whining noise [Usually depends on type] which to some is pleasant and to others a pain in the ear.

Superchargers have 3 types:

• Roots-Type - Typically least efficient of the 3, Roots-Type Superchargers force air into the engine in more burst than a continuous flow due to its design. It does however offer instant boost ie does not have the 'lag' associated with Centrifugal Superchargers or Turbos.
• Screw-Type [Rotary-Type] - The Screw-Type can be considered an evolution of the Roots-Type by design as the internals are designed to pump air more efficiently and consistently HOWEVER cost more and create a lot more noise comparably. It also does offer instant boost.
• Centrifugal-Type - Centrifugal-Type is constructed a little more its behaviour is more like a Turbo in design and therefore in characteristic too ie doesn't provide usable amount of boost immediately.

Check out Google, Jackson Racing, Eaton, Vortech, CAPA, etc for more info on Superchargers.

Check out Google, Garrett [Honeywell] for more info on Turbochargers :)

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Originally Posted by stndrd

Also the torque characteristics are different between the root/screw type vs centrifugal vs turbo. This is something else you need to take into consideration when deciding what you want.

Also in regards to turbos, make sure to research twin scroll and variable vane turbo set ups. This is where turbos become very flexible and can have very quick spool times with gigantic horsepower figures

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HAHAHA thanks for all the information! really helpful but yeah doubt I would supercharge/turbo any time soon, no coin :(
I just really like the sound of superchargers but turbo seems to be better.

Anyone here willing to swap softer mounts for my Innovative 75a mounts?