haha thats what i thought when i first saw this video =pQuote:
Originally Posted by EKVTIR-T
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haha thats what i thought when i first saw this video =pQuote:
Originally Posted by EKVTIR-T
also keep it clean fellas - we are here to discuss cars not bark and bite at eachother
Dont fraternise with me after negging me...
STI swap the FT?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
or even wait for the subaru BRZ?
Thanks JohnO, it looks like I have to wait for three years max before tweaking. Lady will want to retain the full Honda warranty.. But seen as I doubt it will break maybe I can do the odd thing; will have to check the small print.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnO
I managed to get out of my school home work this weekend and test drive a CR-Z....and yes some of you get to say "I told you so!”
Initial impressions good; to me, it’s a very good looking car in person.
Seating; partner didn't like how low the seat on the passenger side is compared to floor pan - it’s not adjustable (for height) on the passenger side. Of course later I thoughts you could put a cushion, cushion seat cover, on the seat which might help.
Leg room for someone tall who likes not sitting bunched up, is just about OK, we are both about 6ft, not sure of that in Metric. The problem with this is, with the seat right back for leg room (and high heels for the partner) the front seats are actually pushing against the back seats, more on them later!
Panel well laid out, a bit futuristic but that’s a good thing in my opinion, but also a bit gimmicky; looked smaller and cheaper inside then compared to the pictures on the web (Honda have a good advertising arm/agency for Art but not promotion?).
Manual handled well, in the rain, in sports. Why oh, why, do the modes affect the handling, feel etc so dramatically, modes should be called respectively; Econ - cheap Hybrid, Normal - cheap, Sports - feels drivable?
Bad decision there, it feels skittish in Normal - partner described as feeling like a 121...
Power good but not sporty, in sports, has some pick up, but sluggish at times - probably needs to revved heavily, but the vtec(sub par for vtec) engine won’t rev past the red line which is at something like 4000....
Down through the gears it didn't give the confidence that I was getting a lot more control into corners..Probably the stock wheels?
Sounds good.
Rear view bad but interesting!
Gadgets seem good.
Rear seats only acceptable for children, I had to sit with no leg room and bent over as it was only as high in the back as my shoulders. Maybe Honda is aiming at young families, short people but I would like to be able to pick my parents up from the airport for example and fit in for a non squashed against the roof ride, If it had two seats I'd come meet them and they could drive and I would get a cab.
Overall; attractive car, overpriced, I applaude their attempt at a sporty hybrid but it feels like a prototype, it's a shame you get no discounts on rego/price for buying a hybrid in Australia, more responsive in Sport then your 'standard car', back seats should not be in there... they could of used the space to mid mount the batteries?
I am sad to report that despite them trying to sell it, as they are obviously not moving, and not that economical unless your very careful and are prepared to put up with lose steering and sluggish performance.
Type-R for me, I can't wait for the new Scooby/Toyota car and I think I prefer the Wolf in Sheep’s clothing aspect of the Type R to that car, test driving on Monday, but I already want one from sitting and revving the 2nd hand Type R they had.
Congratulations on an honest review, you haven't allowed your eagerness for one to blind you to it's short comings. Your comments about the rear seating are actually quite amusing because it shows that Honda haven't learnt lessons from the Gen 1 & 2 CRX's where the JDM's were also pseudo 4 seaters.
I predict they will be (particularly in Australasia) the fastest depreciating model Honda has ever placed on this market. (probably where it will attain it's greatest speed)
it will be a race with the honda legend for depreciation!Quote:
Originally Posted by hondapop
Haha! I think there'll still be Legends around after the CRZ has departed the scene, the only ones to survive will have had engine transplants. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Govt enact regulations to prevent this being done to hybrids. (greener cars and all that)Quote:
Originally Posted by UNLS1
CRZ just won Wheels Car of the Year.
Wow, crazy stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by UNLS1
Golf won it last year,
wouldn't mind having a read of the new issue 2c what they have to say
I think I wouldnt mind to get one, especially if HA will not have a good sale figure on them. Its become some sort of "Limited edition" car. And its the one that attract more attention from people (unlike legend which is too subtle and people will just thought its an accord :p)