[Euro] Hondata Update

Hi guys,

First of all, I dont own a Euro! and I'm giving this as a personal opionion as an outsider with no bias to anyone! :)

It funny to see how JTune has gone about and unfortunately whilst trying to please customers and reporting an early release of their product. They did not consider the initial R & D and production of the products! Looks like they've learnt and has done better with the FN kit.

N/A car are very loud with big high flowing exhausts and unfortunately that is just fact!

Question? Is the noise still there if you ran the exhaust with the silencers that James has? If so, you may need to reduce the size of the mufflers from I think the 3" to maybe 2.25, that shoud reduce some if not all the harmonics.

If someone talks to James about the noise, I am sure he would be able to fit a smaller muffler (2) to reduce noise for the sake of a few kws. Even for a test!

Having said that, really.......if you buy an 'Extream' kit for your car, any car for that matter, its going to be louder. It will not be the same as before!

Problem with genric kits or mass produced kits like this is that its not going to please everyone. Even for aftermarket cat backs, people whinge that they're too loud. What do you expect!

Talk to James and Im sure he can accomadate small changes where possible.

IMHO, if you think the kit costs too much and is too loud, dont buy it! Get the reflash and keep your car a stocker.

Sorry that it is a bit long winded. Just thought you guys want an objective opinion about this as there seems to be alot of pro Jtune comments and con Jtune.

Goodluck fellas and Peace out! :)

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Originally Posted by Nepolian

It funny to see how JTune has gone about and unfortunately whilst trying to please customers and reporting an early release of their product. They did not consider the initial R & D and production of the products! Looks like they've learnt and has done better with the FN kit.

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Thing is, we've been waiting since 2005. :)

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Originally Posted by Nepolian

Problem with genric kits or mass produced kits like this is that its not going to please everyone. Even for aftermarket cat backs, people whinge that they're too loud. What do you expect!

Talk to James and Im sure he can accomadate small changes where possible.

IMHO, if you think the kit costs too much and is too loud, dont buy it! Get the reflash and keep your car a stocker.

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I think the whole problem is that a kit is being offered that promises increases in power output while keeping noise levels down. Not to mention the delays and constant hickups.

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Originally Posted by wynode

I think the whole problem is that a kit is being offered that promises increases in power output while keeping noise levels down. Not to mention the delays and constant hickups.

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Bingo!! Hit the nail firmly on the head. If we wanted the ricer sound we'd go get any of the other aftermarket exhausts and intakes. The noise (or lack of) and performance was what made the Jtune so attractive.

I've lost all confidence in the Jtune gear.It's a pity because it was just what i was looking for.:(

I had a fews issues when my car ecu was reflashed. My ecu was fried as you know. It got sorted out and I got the first retail mild flash.

I have to say that after driving my car a bit this week, the performance and throttle response is really outstanding. Its the instant response that makes the most difference at part throttle than the outright power gains.

Ill get my car dynoed soon and see what we have. I'd be surprised if it was less than 15kw up on stock.

For those with the Hondata reflash, do you plan to have your car serviced at Honda dealerships with the risk of them reflashing your ECU with a potential update to the Euro and inadvertantly losing your Hondata reflash and its performance gains???

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Originally Posted by Lukey13

For those with the Hondata reflash, do you plan to have your car serviced at Honda dealerships with the risk of them reflashing your ECU with a potential update to the Euro and inadvertantly losing your Hondata reflash and its performance gains???

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Honda dealers do not have the ability to reflash the ECU according to Jtune.

jtune also said this shit would be ready a year ago LOL can we really trust what they say?

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Originally Posted by johnprocter

jtune also said this shit would be ready a year ago LOL can we really trust what they say?

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they also said i would loose power using an RBC manifold...

lol oh deary

While Honda dealers may not be able to re-flash and also cannot may not be able to read the ECU to determine it has been updated I would think they would more likely pick the earlier VTEC cut in (assuming a mild re-flash, the changed intake, exhaust etc. of the extreme would be kind of obvious :p). What I wonder about is the effect this would this have on

1) Any warranty claims
2) Dealer approach to any "engine related issue" that might arise
3) General attitude of dealer service staff

I'm still kind of interested in the mild re-flash, just waiting to see how it all pans out.