what about s2000?
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what about s2000?
Didn't it used to be turbocharged? Proof kms aren't everything..
Mate picked up a 172 for 5.8k last year. You can make money off them if they are written off lol. Basically a slightly slower, but more torquey dc2r with better steering. They are awesome little cars.
Agreed. Cult status in Europe. Very popular as the Lutecia in Japan, but here they are lurker a amongst enthusiasts. Anyone who considers themselves a true hot hatch aficionado acknowledges their potential. So many great hot hatches out of France. Clio Williams, Renault Turbo, 205 GTI, Clio 172, 185, 197, 200, Megane 225/230, 250/265, Citroen DS3 Racing.
I've actually been on the lookout for a 205 GTI of late. They're either $2k rust buckets or $18k modded ones. Nothing in between that just needs a bit of TLC. Because they're so rare a well kept one is now appreciating. I bet some owners don't even know what they're sitting on.
I'm surprised more. People don't look at French cars for P plate friendly performance drives.
They're more like the DC2 than the 5. The 5 is boring and neutral in my opinion. I'll post some YouTube links shortly.
Clio 182 - http://youtu.be/5SAiFlzrO-A
RS250 vs R26.r - http://youtu.be/MimwetzER7c
Clio RS200 III vs Focus RS - http://youtu.be/Ae4RqTW5UDU
Clio RS200 IV - http://youtu.be/KsUPixwMDg0
Clio RS200 on BMI - http://youtu.be/CjeQp6YkPUw
Megane RS265 Nurburgring FWD record -http://youtu.be/5SAiFlzrO-A
Apologies for taking things off topic but if you haven't been introduced to Renault Sport before you may find these really interesting, and surprising.
The only other issues I know of are the engine mounts failing. I think the dc5 can have similar problems anyway.
One other bonus with the clio sports that I didn't mention above is the fuel economy. You can pretty easily average around 6L/100km if you don't thrash the car everywhere. Integras can't get anywhere near this sort of economy.
So that means the 197 is probably the safest bet.
One thing I didn't like about the 147 gta was the shifting felt too soft, .It didn't feel direct what so ever. Ep3r on the other hand felt firm and very direct when shfting. Renault Clio the same go as the 147 or ep3?